Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Forum News > The Fire Hydrant


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 10-22-2012, 07:26 PM
crazedACD crazedACD is online now
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 2,836
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel View Post
I'm not sure about breeding but I know for a fact several good hearted and hard working rescue friends have been really pushed around by her. They caravaned for her from CA to LA and were treated badly then, they brushed it off as stress and went to help again during one of the storms/settling in but again they were treated like crap.

Then a friend was collecting kennels which I donated 3 to and got them returned with a nasty response along the lines of don't you know pit bulls need big kennels and not these small things? I turned around and redonated them to a local rescue who sold two and kept one for puppy transports, they were very gracious.

Meh, a bit of decorum goes a long way. It's hard to stay civil and keep your friends & help when you're drowning but its easier to stay afloat when you have help.
Interesting.

You know, I can't find like...anything about the operation through google. The worst I found was people debating her move to Tehachapi. Some said she has a bad history (as you are saying). I can find more negative stuff about Best Friends (and Best Friends > Villalobos, IMO, though neither are perfect).

I think she has a reasonable idea/operation but too many dogs for her to manage the way it is. Doesn't seem like it would take much to tip the apple cart there (especially financially).
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 12-13-2012, 12:41 AM
AdrianneIsabel's Avatar
AdrianneIsabel AdrianneIsabel is offline
Glutton for Crazy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 8,893
Default

http://www.spencerdailyreporter.com/...fe/entry/50781

An on-topic read
__________________
Sloan von Krigbaum IPO1 CGC BH CD NA NJ PD MJ-N RATI RATN 3/7/10 -
Shamoo NJ-N RATI RATN 3/1/98 -
Phelan du Loups du Soleil CGC RATI 6/15/13 -
Chili Brigades Brover 5/23/14 -

Arnold CGC TDI FD 6/29/04 - 07/05/13
Backup CGC HIC CD SRD SJ-N RATI 12/29/09 - 07/05/13

You were amazing, we did amazing things.


Harmony Canine, relationship based training.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 12-13-2012, 01:37 AM
Tahla9999's Avatar
Tahla9999 Tahla9999 is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,104
Default

The idea of these pit bulls living months and years in a kennel with limited interaction is saddening. From what I've seen from the show, the reason why new volunteers don't enter the kennels is because of the risk that a newbie might let one slip out and cause a kennel fight. Still, dogs NEED that interaction. I don't watch her show anymore because I cringe every time I see her get a dog while battling with the question should she or should she not because her resources are limited. I'm not surprised that she is now keeping dogs in crates because almost every episode she constantly states that she can't add anymore, but than she gets more and more.

I do like the fact that she wants to give pit bulls a second chance and that she is very picky on who she gives the dogs to. She doesn't sugar coat their possibility of DA at all. But for pit bulls sake, keep a smaller number of dogs and focus on the many dogs you already have.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 12-13-2012, 06:57 AM
kady05's Avatar
kady05 kady05 is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Chesapeake, Virginia
Posts: 1,240
Default

What a sad article.. although I can't say I'm surprised.

I do still watch the show, I'm not sure why, but I do. What I don't get is why she acts almost like animal control? People call her about loose dogs and she goes and picks them up then keeps them at her facility.. WTF? I think there was only one time (on the show) where she actually took the loose dog to AC in case its owner came to claim it. After it's stray hold she went and picked him up to take to Villalobos. Half the time when she does this, they're not even Pit Bull type dogs.

I mean, I get wanting to help them but I find myself saying "Isn't that AC's job? Don't you have enough dogs to deal with?" All the while she's ranting about how money is so tight, etc.. makes zero sense.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 12-13-2012, 08:28 AM
Miakoda's Avatar
Miakoda Miakoda is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,661
Default

It's called a "power-hungry hoarder".
__________________
The Hokey Pokey. That's what it's all about.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:20 AM
-bogart- -bogart- is offline
Member of WHODAT Nation.
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South East Louisiana
Posts: 3,175
Default

i decided to stop by and volunteer without the kids. The security guard ran me off. I will not go back or recommend them to anyone.

Especially with the whole lets half ass train some service dogs. She is also rude on her facebook page. I am so not impressed, which sucks as I really wanted to help.
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:24 AM
Tazwell's Avatar
Tazwell Tazwell is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,083
Default

I'm not defending Villalobos here, but I don't really understand the complaint of the writer... It seemed like she was saying "we only got to walk and play with the crated dogs and SOME of the kennels dogs, but we wanted to enrich the lives of the dogs in those other kennels." That's really the only reason she gave for hating the experience... That and she had to clean kennels. Though I think it would be better if the staff cleaned the kennels while the volunteers handled the dogs!

On a similar note, I got a chance to meet Tia this weekend at her "P" word tour. And one of the things that she talked about was the dogs being in a kennel environment for so long. She emphasized very strongly that the dogs need a calm environment to keep from getting kennel crazy, so they work very, very hard at keeping the dogs calm. No excessive barking, and they train them not to react to the other dogs walking by. The newer dogs are not moved from the 'back' building to the main building until they learn this, supposedly. She said that aside from training, they play music and use essences like lavender in the building.

I suppose it might be true, because the dogs are never going crazy when you see them on the show. Dogs being happy in a kennel environment was a big part of her 'seminar'.

*ETA* there were definitely a few things that I had to disagree with, though, and a few things that boggled me.
__________________

Fleetwood Mes Yeux Vigilant CGCA RE TDCH TDI and Shed Antler Dog!
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:40 AM
AdrianneIsabel's Avatar
AdrianneIsabel AdrianneIsabel is offline
Glutton for Crazy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 8,893
Default

I'm sorry but dulling out a dog does not make it happy. Shamoo, because of the pain she is in after rigorous exercise, is reinforced to be calm and quiet all of the time in the crate. I guarantee she'd much rather bounce, bark, chase, play, walk, and swim.

Calm is healthier and less stressful but by no means do I think it makes a happy dog.

Then again I'm pretty against kennel life in the same way most are against chain life pending a lack of time out/off for exercise and stimuli.
__________________
Sloan von Krigbaum IPO1 CGC BH CD NA NJ PD MJ-N RATI RATN 3/7/10 -
Shamoo NJ-N RATI RATN 3/1/98 -
Phelan du Loups du Soleil CGC RATI 6/15/13 -
Chili Brigades Brover 5/23/14 -

Arnold CGC TDI FD 6/29/04 - 07/05/13
Backup CGC HIC CD SRD SJ-N RATI 12/29/09 - 07/05/13

You were amazing, we did amazing things.


Harmony Canine, relationship based training.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 12-13-2012, 09:53 AM
Tazwell's Avatar
Tazwell Tazwell is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,083
Default

I totally agree with you there, thats almost abusive to keep a dog subdued and kenneles for its whole life. They're pit bulls, for pete's sake! at least they make an effort to keep the kennel crazies away.

On the other hand, there are worse possibilities out there. Like Spindle top, or just plain uncaring owners.
__________________

Fleetwood Mes Yeux Vigilant CGCA RE TDCH TDI and Shed Antler Dog!
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 12-13-2012, 10:37 AM
Wickgaga Wickgaga is offline
Puppy Dog
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 34
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by -bogart- View Post
i decided to stop by and volunteer without the kids. The security guard ran me off. I will not go back or recommend them to anyone.

Especially with the whole lets half ass train some service dogs. She is also rude on her facebook page. I am so not impressed, which sucks as I really wanted to help.
Do you know how you go about being a volunteer works there? Just wondering as at our local shelter, you have to sign up to go through orientation & training before you can come volunteer.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:14 PM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site