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Old 10-22-2012, 06:07 PM
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Default Aussies vs. Border Collies

How are they alike/different? I'm thinking about one as my next dog (not for a few years yet) and am interested in the differences in their personalities. I've met a few BC's, and many of the trainers in my obedience club have Aussies, so I'm getting to know Aussies fairly well.

From my experience it seems that BCs are more intense and serious, and Aussies have more of a sense of humor, if that makes sense. But the Aussies I've met seem a bit harder than BC's - more like ACD's in a way. What do you think? How do they compare on drive, bidability, quirkiness?

With my next dog I want to do obedience and tracking, maybe agility (I'm gonna need a lot more free time LOL).
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:17 PM
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I have aussies and have alot of friends with borders..The difference I see is what you said, my aussies tend to have a sense of humor Sometimes not appreciated but you can still laugh at their antics

My male is out of working lines and is more serious / more border collie-ish, when he focus's on something, he focus's on it, my female is more out of show lines, with alot of HOF's in her ped, and less serious, she seems to always have a smile on her face.

Biddability, well, I have gsd's to, and the difference I see is, the gsd's do things for "me", the aussies will to an extent but want to know what's in it for 'them' (aka food is a high motivator!)

My female is a softer dog than my male, but again pedigree could come into play there.

I like that they tend to be a healthy breed (atleast mine are live longer lives, mine are now 12 & 11, and still race around like little maniacs I did agility with my female for a time, she wasn't 'into' it as much as my gsd's, so switched to other things.

I like BC's, but the aussies just seemed a better fit for me. The BC's I know, tend to be obsessive/and frankly, their thought process was to far ahead of mine))

There is so much diveristy in each breed, finding a breeder than can peg their puppies for YOUR needs/lifestyle is paramount.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:19 PM
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I would say it would depend on the lines of the dogs you're looking at. I've seen some very soft aussies and some hard border collies, and all size ranges in both. I'd guess aussies from the show lines are going to be a bigger dog as a rule.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:40 PM
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I have not owned either but one of my trainers has aussies (working lines) and the other has border collies (working lines).

Aussies are more of a generalist whereas BCs are a more specialized dog. Aussies thus have a more guardian type dog streak to them. Aussies also herd upright, BCs have the 'eye'. And whereas BCs were originally bred to herd sheep, Aussies were cow dogs from the get go. Of course there are cattle lines in BCs now too.

In sports BCs dominate and with reason, imo. They're generally lighter and more agile. Aussies in my experience vary a lot on how well they do in something like agility. A lot are just so big and very heavy boned. Jumping style is very different with Aussies tending to go vertically and BCs tend to jump very flat. Both breeds are very versatile. You see a LOT of aussie breeders focusing on obedience instead of agility. Oh and Aussies often tend to run with their mouths open.

I think both breeds are great for the average person wanting to play in dog sports. Very versatile breeds that can and should be able to pick up anything.

As far as how serious or goofy or social they are, it depends on the individual. I've been around quite a few working style aussies and while they are bouncy and playful, they know when to be serious.

I like both breeds a lot and hope to own both.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:41 PM
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Generally: border collies are more serious, aussies are more playful/bouncy, aussies tend to be slightly more protective, although BCs aren't like labs or pits with strangers, either. Both are high energy breeds, but from my experience BCs are more prone to OCD or anxiety issues if not given all the exercise they need, where an aussie would just get kind of obnoxious and wild like most under-stimulated pets. The aussies I've known have been less DA/DR than the border collies but that's not a major issue in either breed. Both are very biddable but in different ways. Border collies are slightly more intelligent (Ie capable of getting into trouble) but aussies aren't far behind.

Keep in mind I've never owned either, this is just from day care/grooming and working with friend's dogs.

My best comparison between the two are my best friend, who had a BC and now an aussie. The BC was from a working farm, and came to live in the suburbs with a family with limited dog experience. She was INCREDIBLY intelligent, learned hundreds of tricks, loved her family, but also had major issues...chewed through the laundry room wall during a storm (fear of thunder), was hardcore (aggressively) protective of her personal space such as under the table or bed or her crate, chewed her own feet when she got anxious, did not get along with other dogs (poorly socialized).

Their aussie now is from a show breeder, and she's pretty watered down. She's still a high energy dog (was worse as a puppy) with a good herding instinct, but loves everyone, and is not NEARLY as smart as Norma (the BC) was. Trainable, sure, intelligent, yes, and biddable, but she's not about to solve a murder mystery.
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Aussies never take anything seriously, and to a Border Collie nothing is a joke.

Or something. Obviously a general rule, lol, but it makes me laugh.
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Border collies stalk/slink..Aussies bounce.
lol in both their physical attributes and their personalities, I find this to be true.

That said, there is way too much variation in breed type to REALLY answer this question.
Generally..

BORDER COLLIE:
"The Border Collie is energetic, intelligent, keen, alert, and responsive. An intense worker of great tractability, it is affectionate towards friends but may be sensibly reserved towards strangers. When approached, the Border Collie should stand its ground. It should be alert and interested, never showing fear, dullness or resentment. Any tendencies toward viciousness, nervousness or shyness are very serious faults.

The dog's temperament must be sensitive enough to bend its will when asked, tough enough to stand up to the pressures of training, eager to learn, with enough confidence and determination to carry on with its work without constant guidance. Some Border Collies are reserved rather than outgoing, but they must love to work with and for the master."

AUSSIE: The Australian Shepherd is primarily a working dog of strong herding and guardian instincts. He is an intelligent, exceptional companion. He is versatile and easily trained: performing his assigned tasks with great style and enthusiasm. He is reserved with strangers but does not exhibit shyness.
This unusually versatile stockdog works upright and close, with the power and quickness to control difficult cattle as well as the ability to move sheep without unnecessary roughness. Although an aggressive, authoritative worker, viciousness toward people or animals is intolerable

However, Aussies are perfect for people wishing to own a highly trainable, versatile, super-smart dog that can work/play "till the cows come home". If you have the time and commitment for an Aussie, you won't be disappointed. These special dogs deserve special owners. Their loyalty, drive, character, and whimsical sense of humor place them in a class by themselves.
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Border collies stalk/slink..Aussies bounce.
^this.

However, when I get a toy out for my BC (working bred) he bounces. Really cute. lol

Aussie and Borders have similar traits, that I think if you're looking at one or the other, you really can't go wrong with either.
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And Aussies can be huge stubborn buttheads, border collies trip over themselves to please you.

Oh and Aussies have no tail an their bunny butts freak me out. :P

I do love my clients Aussies though, seriously fun dogs even if they an be silly and stubborn at times.
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And Aussies can be huge stubborn buttheads, border collies trip over themselves to please you.
Unless the BC decides your method is Wrong and then you will never hear the end of it

Also working BCs at least tend to be very literal. They take the rulebook very seriously and lord help you if you deviate from it without a discussion first.

Or, as one of the BCs I run in agility once put it:
Even though I know you and we are running toward the table and there are no other options YOU said the word "Up" but MY word is "Table" so I am gonna spin and b**** you out for YOUR mistake to make sure YOU don't do it ever again and THEN I will get pn the table (hope you enjoy that R you totally deserved) and eye you suspicously because clearly you are an untrustworthy rebel who makes up words that aren't real words so you better get your act together for the rest of this course, human.

Love that dog. But there is a reason BCs are referred to as Handler Mistake Amplifiers lol. Honest to a fault.
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