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Old 10-05-2012, 12:06 AM
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Default Calling all malinois owners/enthusists, info needed please.

Hello all, as you know I am not in the market for a pup any time soon, but thie recent experience with this companies drug/police/personal protection dogs (mostly malinois) got me researching via google for when the time comes a year or two in the future (never too early to research, right LOL), but i cant really find anything in depth about them, only that they are active & smart & crave mental stilulation.

I would like to know, how are they to raise? to live with? they seem like awesome dogs & i would just like to know more. I have owned, dobes, GSDs, JRT's & various mixes through out my 20 + yrs owning dogs so i have a good amount of dog experience.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:13 AM
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I like the Malinut page: http://malinut.com/

I'm currently raising a Mal pup named Roust and I have had Black Belgians for years. The Belgian breeds are quirky and some go through some rough adolescent phases. They absolutely need proper early training and socialization to develop into great adult dogs. Approaching the early training and socialization in the wrong way can pretty much ruin some dogs. So far I have found Roust fairly easy and fun but I am a Belgian person He settles well when nothing is going on on but at the first hint of action he's up leaping, spinning and sliding across the floors. He's very lovey and needs touched a lot. He's already 40lbs+ and he loves to sit in laps and be held (just be careful of his hard head hitting you in the face, he's nearly broken a couple noses :/ ). He is obsessed with being with me, out and about he barely pays attention to anything going on around him because he's so happy to be out doing stuff with me. IME his needy, dorky, lovey traits are fairly typical of male Belgians. It seems you either find those traits endearing or they drive you crazy LOL Roust is good in a crate to a point but when he thinks he's been in one too long, he lets you know. Even if it is 5am on Saturday He isn't wanting out because he has to potty. He wants out because...well because! This is fairly typical of a lot of Belgians I've had and known.

Roust is a "no touch" sort of dog with strangers though and you will find that in the breed. By "no touch" I mean he doesn't tolerate strangers petting him very well. I can take him anywhere, strangers can hold his leash while I walk away and he acts very appropriate but he doesn't want them to get too personal. He had a less than stellar upbringing until I got him at 14 weeks old (from the home his "breeder" placed him in...48 hours after the breeder placed him). He's come a long way socially since I first got him and I think he'll continue improving.

Not sure what you are looking for a dog for but there are a lot of very shady Mal breeders out there and unfortunately, some of them have a lot of credentials and accomplishments. If you are looking to buy a puppy from a breeder, look for a breeder who shares similar ideas with you in terms of how dogs are kept and interacted with. If you want a dog who's high drive, high energy but also a great companion, don't go to a breeder who's dogs live out their lives in kennels and only come out to be worked. If you are open to rescue, ABMC always has a lot of dogs available and they even get puppies in fairly often. If you're curious what a Mal would be like to live with, offer to be a foster home http://www.malinoisrescue.org/
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:02 AM
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Awesome info, think you!!! Now if I could find a good breeder in Texas (I want to see their dogs, their setup in person etc) sadly there aren't many in tx good... Or bad.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:59 PM
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There are several really thorough threads about the breed on CHaz already.

Malinois: http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168069

Normal Person+Malinois = : http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158187

Breeder Recommendations: http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151116

For those thinking about a malinois: http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134891

And numerous threads similar to this as well:
"To balance the cute...": http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130958
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:24 PM
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You may want to consider fostering first, this breed is overflowing lately with people who maybe aren't the best fit that they thought they would be. That way you can be sure, save a life, and help the breed all at once.

I won't go too long because Erin posted the vital threads but you're welcome at any time to review my YouTube. I have several "just hanging out" videos of my dogs who've been taught off switches and yet severely lack them. I wouldn't trade them for the world but they can be trying.
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Rescue is in HUGE need of fosters for sure - they had four in TX looking for foster homes just last week. It's GREAT way to get a feel for the breed (and maybe find a dog you can't live without).
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Rescue is in HUGE need of fosters for sure - they had four in TX looking for foster homes just last week. It's GREAT way to get a feel for the breed (and maybe find a dog you can't live without).
I totally agree! It is mind boggling how many Mals need foster homes.

FWIW Roust never needed taught an off switch. And we play in house even He is a high drive crazy boy but if nothing fun is going on he can chill. Some people find their's don't. There really is a lot of variation in the breed with individuals and lines. The main thing to be aware of is they are quirky dogs. Sensitive but intense, needy and obsessive, happy, goofy guard dogs who have a hard time containing their enthusiasm. Fostering is a great way to see if you really mesh with the quirkyness...or if it will drive you crazy.
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I figure its not far off from DA in pit bulls, it doesn't always happen but I like to encourage people to prepare for the worst and allow themselves to be pleasantly surprised.

In my two they have varying levels, Backup is an extremely busy and obsessive dog for any breed, Sloan is moderately busy meaning if there are no toys she'll chill but if she has anything she'll obsessively ask for fetch except at bedtime where she is a fantastic cuddler (backup is not).

We also have a lot of Malinois in our life that a have differing levels and a few are down right couch potatoes which honestly is weird. It does happen though, like in apbt you can find some fantastic never-welcome-a-fight dogs, and I definitely see some breedings lend themselves to that so investigating that will benefit as well.
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You forgot this thread: So you think you want a Malinois... http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117960

My two Malinois have turned out to be polar opposites. Harry was a poster dog for every scary thing you could encounter. He was reactive, had no off switch, was nearly impossible to contain, hated everybody (human or animal) outside the family, barely tolerating my husband. Harry was very much a "no touch" dog. He was a noisy, pushy, nasty beast, but I loved him so much and miss him every day.

Stan is everything Harry is not. He's still wild and energetic, but he's so happy. He's never met a stranger. He doesn't alarm bark at all. The only time he makes noise is when he's really happy excited about something. He's Dug from Up as a real dog.

Harry looked at life like he was a paranoid secret service agent. Stan looks at it like a clown that performs at children's birthday parties. I realize that Stan is only 10 1/2 months, but Harry was a really serious dog even at 8 weeks. I'm not sure that Stan is even going to be a passable watchdog.
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Oh good I knew that thread was around somewhere but it didn't pop up in my search for some reason - glad you posted it!
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