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Old 09-26-2012, 07:12 PM
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If his nose is a variation of liver and not actually black (I thought it was black from the pics) then yeah he could be purebred.

After reading all the stories of his shenanigans swiping your stuff... it wiped any doubts of his beezerness from my mind.

I definitely don't think azawakh. Aside from being incredibly rare, their behavior is soooo different from other sight hounds. They're used as guard dogs in their homeland, most in the US are less than 6 generations out of working for a living. They're not just "aloof", they're downright distrustful and I'd expect an azawakh mix to be a lot more suspicious of strangers (they're much more like a cur in that way)

If he's mixed, I'd think it was podengo. Plenty of beezer breeders keep podengos on the premises so if there was going to be an oops it's more likely it would be something like that.
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:25 PM
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Idk, he looks pure to me, but he could just be back yard bred. You keep breeding the same breed badly through different generations, you can definitely come back with something that looks a little wonky.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:11 AM
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If his nose is a variation of liver and not actually black (I thought it was black from the pics) then yeah he could be purebred.

After reading all the stories of his shenanigans swiping your stuff... it wiped any doubts of his beezerness from my mind.

I definitely don't think azawakh. Aside from being incredibly rare, their behavior is soooo different from other sight hounds. They're used as guard dogs in their homeland, most in the US are less than 6 generations out of working for a living. They're not just "aloof", they're downright distrustful and I'd expect an azawakh mix to be a lot more suspicious of strangers (they're much more like a cur in that way)

If he's mixed, I'd think it was podengo. Plenty of beezer breeders keep podengos on the premises so if there was going to be an oops it's more likely it would be something like that.
Ya Joey doesn't sound like he has the Azawahk temperament at all. He actually isn't really aloof at all that I've seen. He will politely greet some people though others he just wants to bounce up to face level to say hello (we're working on that). He's very friendly with people he doesn't know and is quick to warm up to them.

I just took a couple closeups of his nose. For some reason when I take pics from further away his nose looks so much darker so here are a few closeups.


COPYDSC_0658 by PawsItPhotography, on Flickr


COPYDSC_0659 by PawsItPhotography, on Flickr


COPYDSC_0660 by PawsItPhotography, on Flickr


COPYDSC_0661 by PawsItPhotography, on Flickr
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:38 AM
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I agree with Dekka and the others on this one. My vote goes to pure Ibizan.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:42 AM
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Looks pure to me. Someone should probably inform all of these breed "experts" that rescue dogs rarely conform wonderfully to their given breed standard...
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:45 AM
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Looks pure to me. Someone should probably inform all of these breed "experts" that rescue dogs rarely conform wonderfully to their given breed standard...
Exactly.

I'd consider this chihuahua to be ONLY chihuahua:



Even though he looks much different from this chihuahua, who has his ch:

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Old 09-27-2012, 08:53 AM
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His legs are so long, says a possibility of Azawakh. His muscling in his rear legs is wrong for a beezer. The roached back is way off too..this is not seen in Ibizan's. You see puppies with very high rears that gives an appearance of a roached back, but this is a stage that they grow out of pretty quickly. His back could very well be roached up due to being crated alot ect.


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I found this and think it's interesting:

"Very dark brown or black eyes suggest impurity. If one looks at pictures of some of the rural farmer's hunting packs one will see many miss colored dogs with dark pigmentation. There are of course many stunning pure individuals in their native land. I have seen videos of entire packs of hounds that any breeder here would be proud to claim." http://www.amberlithe.com/articles/20

Because it sounds like dogs in the hunting packs in the breed's native land do sometimes have darker pigment. American breeders may have determined this is "impurity" but it can be hard to say what the truth is.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:57 AM
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Wait... That's a black nose? It looks red.

I am sorry the beezer people are being rude.

Honestly if Backup was a rescue I guarantee people would question his short stature(he's 21 3/4 in), long back(easily longer than tall), light eyes, long coat (not Terv but longer than most mals), and lemuristic behavior but the truth is he's very much a purebred Malinois.

They're not all born to be perfect to the standard and some breed fanciers are just silly.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:04 AM
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His legs are so long, says a possibility of Azawakh.
The dog's legs, from the elbows down, are actually fairly short. What makes him look like he has super long legs is a combination of long upper arm, shortish scapula, and almost no angulation between the two which is making the point of elbow fall awkwardly far below his ribcage.

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The roached back is way off too..this is not seen in Ibizan's.
Like these?



BYB/rescue dogs don't follow standards. ETA: Not implying the above dogs are either of those, I pulled a photo off the internet showing a structural point that the quoted poster said didn't happen in purebred Ibizans.
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