Performance Pembroke Welsh Corgi breeders?

[Paviche]

I've seen multiple people, here and on other boards, that it's easier to find a working/sport Pembroke than Cardigan. I've found it difficult to find any Pembroke breeders that do more than just dabble in agility/herding though. I've found a few that have produced a handful of dogs that have obtained some high level titles but none that own the dogs themselves.

Am I just not looking in the right places? Or is it just that Pemmies are, as a breed, more adept at performance events so even if the breeding stock isn't titled, there's a better chance of getting a good prospect? Does anyone have any breeder recommendations? I know we've got some corgi Chazzers!

[FG167]

I, and my fiance, have a Cardigan Corgi each. They do performance sports. Our breeder is not breeding for it though, he's a conformation breeder - they're failed hold-backs for conformation.

[Cardi4851]

I don't know much about pembrokes, but there are a few Cardi breeders who breed for performance and conformation. The breeder that Chekhov came from doesn't specifically breed for performance, but he seems to have several performance prospects in every litter. Finding a drivey Cardi isn't too hard, I think what takes a little more work is finding one that isn't too heavy boned and has a little more leg (comparatively!).

[xpaeanx]

When I was looking at Cardigans I found a few that breeders that either did both or a lot of their puppies did well in performance in their new homes.

[Paviche]

Yeah, I've looked at both the Cardigan and the Pembroke (two entirely different breeds but both with traits I like) and I noticed that about the Cardis. I've actually spent a lot more time looking into them. The Pembroke is newer to me

[SizzleDog]

Revy's breeder has had god luck with producing good performance dogs. Really versatile dogs with stable temperaments... not always easy to find in Pembrokes.

[Paviche]

Stability is (obviously) huge for me. From the time I've spent around Pems at work, I can see how it might be a delicate balance! Ice always thought Revy was gorgeous! Is her breeder still producing dogs? You can PM me if you'd like, I'd love to learn more.

[SizzleDog]

A ton of Pembrokes I've met have temperament issues. It's sad that it's swiftly becoming the stereotype for Pembrokes... that they're cranky little a-holes. Revy is a talker, but she's a genuinely nice Pembroke that doesn't fly off the handle over anything. I actually remember Sara saying something about finally being able to meet a NICE Pembroke when we visited her last year!

[~WelshStump~]

Originally Posted by SizzleDog

Revy's breeder has had god luck with producing good performance dogs. Really versatile dogs with stable temperaments... not always easy to find in Pembrokes.

That seems to be how it goes these days. You either get the watered down sweet and lovey, fluffy stuffy *cough-fat* show dog. Or, you get the Royal snob. I have the latter. Yes his attitude has at times caused problems, but I do find him VERY well controlled and VERY "polite" with his tude'. He's very good at warning without escalating, but that is where his butt gets in trouble as people see a "vicious dog", I'm not going to say he's all talk though, he has quite a firm grip that's all I'll say.

As for breeders, can't really help much, I have seen dogs from one who mostly competes in Agility with her own dogs, and sells to show home on the side, but I don't know much else as her dogs aren't really to my taste (small, light of frame, "Americanized heads", open coats...).

[corgipower]

Originally Posted by Paviche

I've seen multiple people, here and on other boards, that it's easier to find a working/sport Pembroke than Cardigan. I've found it difficult to find any Pembroke breeders that do more than just dabble in agility/herding though. I've found a few that have produced a handful of dogs that have obtained some high level titles but none that own the dogs themselves.

Am I just not looking in the right places? Or is it just that Pemmies are, as a breed, more adept at performance events so even if the breeding stock isn't titled, there's a better chance of getting a good prospect? Does anyone have any breeder recommendations? I know we've got some corgi Chazzers!

You might look for a corgi specialty that has performance events or better yet corgi nationals. I've met a number of pemmie breeders who were competing in herding, agility and obedience at the national.

I'm out of the loop at the moment, so I can't really give you names of breeders, but they are out there.

Also, yes, you are more likely to get a good performance dog out of poor breeding in pemmies than cardis, in large part simply because structurally pemmies are more suitable -- shorter back, straighter legs.

Originally Posted by SizzleDog

A ton of Pembrokes I've met have temperament issues. It's sad that it's swiftly becoming the stereotype for Pembrokes... that they're cranky little a-holes. Revy is a talker, but she's a genuinely nice Pembroke that doesn't fly off the handle over anything. I actually remember Sara saying something about finally being able to meet a NICE Pembroke when we visited her last year!

That is very sad. I have never met one that was a "cranky little a-hole". Opinionated and snarky? Sure, love 'em for that. But stable nonetheless and really quite nice.