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Old 06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
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I've only had one herding breed; German Shepherds, but they've all been males.
Yeah boys don't so much count LOL Not that boy dogs can't have aggression/reactivity/guarding issues, it's just...different. FWIW I don't tend to see GSDs as quite as prone to the behavior being talked about here. Same sex aggression towards household dogs - absolutely. But not being snarky about resources. They aren't generally snarky dogs. Too serious maybe? If they have a problem with another dog, they'd sooner get into an all out brawl than be snarky LOL Not all of course....just my impression of GSDs in general

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nd my Doberman, I might call a herding breed even if he was really in the "working" group. He had very strong herding instincts, seeing as how lots of herding breeds went into their make-up.
That's really interesting! Did you do herding with him?
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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=[QUOTE]Aleron;2002107]Yeah boys don't so much count LOL Not that boy dogs can't have aggression/reactivity/guarding issues, it's just...different. FWIW I don't tend to see GSDs as quite as prone to the behavior being talked about here. Same sex aggression towards household dogs - absolutely. But not being snarky about resources. They aren't generally snarky dogs. Too serious maybe? If they have a problem with another dog, they'd sooner get into an all out brawl than be snarky LOL Not all of course....just my impression of GSDs in general



That's really interesting! Did you do herding with him?[/QUOTE]

No, I'm not a very good herder. He did it all by himself.
Our last GSD was dog agressive (territorial) toward strange dogs, but he was fine with dogs he was introduced to. One time I rescued a pitbull that was running loose on a busy road on a dark, rainy night. Back then, I didn't know that much and I separated them, one in the back yard, and one in the front. (fence in between) They sniffed noses and wagged, seemed to like each other so I put them together and they played and romped, ate out of the same bowl. They were like bosom buddies. I found the owner and that was that. But yeah, Ajax was not particularly dog aggressive once he got neutered. And he got along with the neighbor's dogs, one another GSD (male) and a Rottweiler, also a male. He not only got along, but was good pals with them.

I've never really had any trouble with any of my dogs (and I've had quite a few) over the past 1/2 century (lol) except for my Doberman. He was what I'd call dog reactive more than aggressive. When it came right down to it, he was all show and no go. lol. But yeah....never had any significant behavior problems. Again, one little bit of trouble with Lyric getting guardy toward Jose`, but that was fixed. (with food) LOL. Primarily, they were pals. And these two Chihuahuas and Toker, my son's dog get along beautifully.

My Dobe acted like my GSDs. When there would be a bunch of us on a hiking trail, single file, (or aproximately single file) he'd run to the front, then to the back, back and forth. The few times he didn't run back to the back of the line, he'd stop in front and look intently to the last person on the trail. He didn't like it when people got too spread out.

When I'd throw the ball for Toker, who was very into retrieving the ball, he'd run behind her and keep her from turning around to come back to me, darting from side to side like a cutting horse. He'd run behind her...couldn't care less about the ball, just wanted to keep her "in line." He didn't do any nipping of heels or anything or bark but he just positioned himself in ways to keep everyone bunched up.

Our last GSD, Ajax, herded some piglets we were raising at someone else's property (years ago). They got out of their pen and ran off. He ran alongside the hillside where they were and shouldered them back to their fenced area. No training, no direction at all from us. We didn't even know he had it in him. LOL. He just darted off in their direction as we stood there wondering what to do and then we saw him getting them turned around and headed back toward the pen.

Of course, Dobermans come from Rottweilers that were used to herd cattle and some other kind of shepherd way early on in their development.

So, I'm glad at my age now, that I have two Chihuahuas....very easy going, (noisy sometimes, but pretty laid back) nice companion dogs. That's all I want these days...easy street.
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Yeah boys don't so much count LOL Not that boy dogs can't have aggression/reactivity/guarding issues, it's just...different. FWIW I don't tend to see GSDs as quite as prone to the behavior being talked about here. Same sex aggression towards household dogs - absolutely. But not being snarky about resources. They aren't generally snarky dogs. Too serious maybe? If they have a problem with another dog, they'd sooner get into an all out brawl than be snarky LOL Not all of course....just my impression of GSDs in general
I have to say that we fostered a few different male ACD/ACD mixes and they were NOTHING like Mu. They (except Wilson) were all laid back and willing to hang out and play and do their own thing. I never really believed the hype but....bitches are an entirely different story. Lol. All the household problems we've been having with Mu and Tipper fighting? Those originated with Mu. Tipper didn't help much (being a pushy little brat as well) but it was mostly Mu. My next dog is going to be a big goofy male.
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I'm gonna agree with Emily here that adding food to the scene would be risky.

Dober, keep in mind a corgi will generally go through a wall of fire for a mere crumb. After they eat a meal. Their food drive is about as intense as a mali's ball drive.

Taq, I would go with the crate idea.



As for herding dobes, I've seen all sorts of breeds do herding that aren't generally thought to be herders. Keep in mind herding is tied in to prey drive, so to go and chase and gather isn't so unexpected. Where herding instinct sets apart a herding dog from a dog that chases/gathers/drives/fetches/etc is in species discrimination. My corgi, when given the choice between running horses and going into the woods to flush out the cattle opted for the more difficult, further away, out of sight cows.
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I have to say that we fostered a few different male ACD/ACD mixes and they were NOTHING like Mu. They (except Wilson) were all laid back and willing to hang out and play and do their own thing. I never really believed the hype but....bitches are an entirely different story. Lol. All the household problems we've been having with Mu and Tipper fighting? Those originated with Mu. Tipper didn't help much (being a pushy little brat as well) but it was mostly Mu. My next dog is going to be a big goofy male.
In my house, it's my male corgi who fights, but the corgi bitch is by far the snarkiest...just no one is foolish enough to push her past that point...
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You have not seen food obsessed until you meet Jose`. There is no dog more crazy about food. He's just not snarky about it. He doesn't guard it because he already knows there's no chance of him not getting any. LOL.

No, Lyric had herding drive...that instinct to want to gather his charges and keep them from separating... and a pretty strong prey drive as well, that instinct to run deer and rabbits and things down. I've known lots of Doberherders. A horse trainer I had who helped with one of my mares had a female Dobe and that dog liked to get the horses all in a bunch when they were in a corral or pasture. And the horses minded her well. LOL.
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I'm gonna agree with Emily here that adding food to the scene would be risky.

Dober, keep in mind a corgi will generally go through a wall of fire for a mere crumb. After they eat a meal. Their food drive is about as intense as a mali's ball drive.

Taq, I would go with the crate idea.



As for herding dobes, I've seen all sorts of breeds do herding that aren't generally thought to be herders. Keep in mind herding is tied in to prey drive, so to go and chase and gather isn't so unexpected. Where herding instinct sets apart a herding dog from a dog that chases/gathers/drives/fetches/etc is in species discrimination. My corgi, when given the choice between running horses and going into the woods to flush out the cattle opted for the more difficult, further away, out of sight cows.
Yeah, all kinds of dogs will show all these drives they have because it's a dog thing first, then a breed thing where they've heightened some of the predatory motor patterns, and all but eliminated others in some breeds.
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My next dog is going to be a big goofy male.
You and me both! I love my bitchy bitches, they make me laugh, but there's no way I'm adding another one right now. I want a goopy boy dog that's in love with me next, thank you.
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