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Old 05-24-2012, 09:12 AM
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Hey everybody. I've been posting a lot, but i haven't had a dog since i was five, so bear with me.

Cthulhu pulls on his leash a lot. He's easily distracted by squirrels, birds, etc. i know that as a schnauzer he's bred for hunting, but i can't have him pulling my arm of every time he's excited.

what's the general stance on prong leashes? Are they ok if used properly? And does anyone have a good link for a tutorial? Thanks
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:20 AM
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I would personally try a no pull harness (front clipping) for control and do some training first. If you can't make any progress using pain free techniques then consider a prong collar. Can't help with instructions on use, never used one myself.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:28 AM
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I've never heard of a prong leash? Do you mean prong collar?

Honestly you are going to get some varying responses on here when iy comes to prong collars, shock collars, etc.

I personally have used a prong collar on my dog Cricket though we rarely use it anymore. I think when used correctly and on a dog with a good solid temperament they can be useful. I wouldn't use one on say a dog with reactivity issues and I wouldn't recommend them as a forever solution, but instead as a tool to help you while you work on teaching your dog not to pull. I WOULD recommend having a professional trainer show you how to use one correctly though if that's the route you decide to take. Have you tried positive reinforcement training first? You may be able to work on this situation without needing to resort to a prong collar for backup.How big is your dog? I can't recall if I've seen pics yet or not. I personally wouldn't use one on a smaller dog either for safety reasons.

If used and fitted correctly I definitely see a use for them on certain dogs, but I feel they can be disastrous if the person on the other end of the leash doesn't know how to use them. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people yanking dogs around all over the place on prong collars and it makes me cringe.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:35 AM
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I would work on training and self control. Work on getting him to focus on you, leave its, etc.

I used prongs for a LOONG time, recommended them, sold them, etc. No more. Do I think they are horrible torture devices? NO, but I also know there are better ways to train and I wont take the chance of reactivity they can cause.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:38 AM
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I have a no pull harness, and it helped a lot. I know there are a few different brands now.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:01 AM
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Prongs are great when used properly. They aid walking and can be used as successful training tools. I would however make an attempt to also train the dog to not over stimulate as well.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:08 PM
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I don't really like prongs... There was a lab on one at the vet office I'm job shadowing at, and it just pulled non stop regardless! I felt so bad for its neck.

As an aside, if you do get one, don't let your vet staff handle the dog with the prong on--the tech I was shadowing was constantly leash popping that dog and yelling "sit, sit!" I took the dog's head in my hands and looked at him and said "Hey, you. Sit." and lo and behold, he finally sat. Didn't even touch the collar. I wanted to say "hey, look what I can do that you can't!" and smack the tech.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:06 PM
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Many of the dogs i work with would rather a collar correction than a human grabbing them or potentially intimidating them by getting in their face.

That said there are right and wrong ways to use every tool and every training technique. It just takes time and tinkering to find the best option for your dog.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:38 PM
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Thank you everybody. I did mean collar, not leash. I tend to forget that he's only been with us for a week and a half, and needs time. I will look at other forms of training first.
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:05 PM
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I didn't grab at him... I was very gentle. Just for the record. If he wanted to pull away he could have. I don't think it was very fair to the dog to yank on his collar repeatedly when simply getting down to his level would do the trick.
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