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Old 05-17-2012, 08:39 PM
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If you read the guys statement his dog wasn't just wandering like he left it outside all the time. The dog slipped the leash. Did he need a better leash? Definitely. But I think it's sick people are so ok with this and blame the victims which are the dog and his owner.

Also if you watch the news report you can see the blood trail and it is clearly in the middle of the street and not the neighbors yard.

For a dog forum quite a few people are siding with the the guy who chased down and killed a dog with a machete and I find that pretty shocking.
And if you watch the news video you can clearly see him walking down the street with his other dog NOT on a leash at all. So I have a hard time believing his dog "slipped the leash" when after such a horrific event he continues to have his oter dog off lead walking down the road with him.

And who was walkin the dog that it slipped the lead? He said he was surprised to see the dog laying outside of his house and then saw the blood and went following the blood trail. Lots of conflicting story there.

I am not "siding" with the guy that killed the dog but I certainly find A Lot of fault on the owners behalf. The VICTIM was the dog... Not the owner.

The owner who is clearly walking his other dog off lead on camera, the owner who said thedog slipped the lead but has been loose on peopls
Property multiple times. Something doesn't add up.

The guy with the machete is a monster NO DOUBT ABOUT IT but the owner is not the victim, the dog is. The owner clearly hasn't learned anything from this since ON CAMERA after the fact he is clearly walking the road with the other dog not on lead.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:48 PM
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There are PLENTY of people on here who have said they don't always keep their dogs on leashes because a lot of places say the dogs need to be under control and not necessarily on a leash. I can't remember the thread since it's been quite a while but I do remember it. I know when I'd take Lady some where Yoshi would always be on a leash since when she was younger she like to go up to everyone and I usually didn't have time for that. But lady was at my side the whole time.

During the news it showed the dog clearly staying near him. You didn't see him walking and the dog running back and forth to various yards to check things out. The dog was beside him the whole time even with a stranger there video taping him.

When I lived in a neighborhood setting if Yoshi had slipped her leash and run off I probably wouldn't have been able to keep her in my eye sight the whole time. If I had walked by my house and hadn't seen her I'd probably go around the neighborhood again instead of hanging out specifically on my one street waiting for her to show up.

Should he have had a better leash? Like I said earlier yes. Dogs getting off leash or accidentally being let out by someone is a pretty normal occurrence and some times there just isn't anything you can do about it. But to say that this owner who's dog got loose is more responsible than the man that chased this dog down with a weapon and hit it not once, not twice, not even three times but four times is ridiculous.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:51 PM
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There's just something wrong with someone who hacks dogs with machetes. I don't even care whose fault it was, I'm just glad that psycho isn't MY neighbor.
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There's just something wrong with someone who hacks dogs with machetes. I don't even care whose fault it was, I'm just glad that psycho isn't MY neighbor.
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:28 PM
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I don't think anyone is denying there is something seriously wrong with the guy and I feel that he should answer for weilding a machete in public.

But I also feel this owner needs a lesson in pet responsibility. Yeah the dog in the 10 second clip isn't wandering off but would you be OK walking your dog off leash right after a machete weilding maniac JUST killed your other dog when it was off leash? I wouldn't

I know about accidents. Teddys collar clip broke when I took him out to potty and as I tried to call him back unsuccessfully he was hit and killed. Know who was at fault? ME!!!!!
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:33 PM
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Accidents DO happen and sometimes they aren't anyone's fault -- they just are. No one's denying (that I can see) that not having your dog contained is fraught with peril for your dog, but the poor dog wasn't "asking for it."

And then, there having been three other dogs killed in similar fashion?

No, this guy is a nutjob.

As far as the law goes, even here in Tennessee, you do NOT have the legal right to kill a domestic animal that is wandering on your property. Not even humanely. If you're attacked, yes, that falls under self defense, but not for trespassing, unless you're a farmer and the animal is causing damage or threatening your stock.

The forensic evidence would seem to suggest that the dog was off the property and running away when attacked with the machete. Kind of like shooting someone in the back.
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That guy... Wow... He could easily have used the flat of the blade instead. I know it's his property, but that's just insanely messed up. And then to just let it stagger back home and die? Something's seriously wrong...

I would, however, agree that the owner of the dog needs to keep his pets on a leash or on his property. As awful as the incident was and as much as I think the attacker needs mental help, it was his property. And there's not really a way to prove that the dog didn't lunge at him with bared teeth. I'd find it very hard to believe in this case, but if that were actually the case, I think I would swing whatever I was carrying at it, too. (Though I think I'd try to use the flat of the blade...)

EDIT: Renee, if that's the case (that the dog were struck while running away) I think this guy needs help. A lot. In a padded cell.
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No the dog wasn't asking for it. I feel awful for the poor dog

But I also have to wonder about the owners sensibility when just after auch a horrific eent he continues to take the other dog out off leash. I worry for THAT dog. That is really all I am saying. Once is an accident but to continue to let a second dog off lead is just asking for trouble and I really don't want to hear if that dog ends up being next

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Me that this nutjob with the machete needs to be locked up. He is a danger to more than just the dogs. Heck... I would be keeping kids on a leasb in that neighborhood
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I'm not big on off-leash, but there are people whose dogs are trained well and can walk off leash. I don't know if that's the case there or not.

Would I have mine on leash? Oh HELL yes.

Of course, with the cameras running it's a pretty safe bet that dude isn't going to charge out with the machete. Although they may have been hoping he would . . .
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EDIT: Renee, if that's the case (that the dog were struck while running away) I think this guy needs help. A lot. In a padded cell.
Kidding. But not really...
Most of the injuries where to the dogs back/hindquarters. There was one to the face but it wasn't anywhere as deep or horrible looking as the back ones. So I'm kind of lead to believe the dog wasn't even facing him for the majority of the attack.

Also in the video you can see the blood trail. It starts in the middle of the street and not a yard/person's property.
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