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View Poll Results: Is it wrong (not illegal, but morally wrong) to buy pharms when you need them?
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:08 PM
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I've had so many issues with my mouth, ever since I was a little kid. Dentists have always been a bad thing for me. I had to be strapped to the table when I was younger. I usually have to take a valium or two before I go in, even just for a cleaning.

Because of my TMJD, it's also incredibly painful to have to force my mouth open that long. It doesn't open that wide as it is, so they always have trouble and force it wider.
They also talk to me like I'm lying, makes me feel horrid. :\
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:18 PM
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I can guarentee you a doctor would send you to a dentist. Then the dentist will send you to a dentist that specializes in TMJ. My mom, sister, and a few friends that have varying degree of TMJ have all been sent that way.

I was sent that way then sent to a surgeon, but I refuse to have surgery (my TMJ is FAR too bad for drugs or mouth guards to do anything to help it, and even being sent to a surgeon, I have to be referred by a dentist).

ETA: and it's pretty well people spread throughout Ontario and Canada. I'd be iffy about a dentist that tells you to go to a doctor for TMJ issues, and wouldn't go back to them for basic stuff.

ETA: Speaking of mouth issues, MY GUMS ITCH. I swear, it's worse than your foot itching
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:25 PM
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I can guarentee you a doctor would send you to a dentist. Then the dentist will send you to a dentist that specializes in TMJ. My mom, sister, and a few friends that have varying degree of TMJ have all been sent that way.

I was sent that way then sent to a surgeon, but I refuse to have surgery (my TMJ is FAR too bad for drugs or mouth guards to do anything to help it, and even being sent to a surgeon, I have to be referred by a dentist).

ETA: and it's pretty well people spread throughout Ontario and Canada. I'd be iffy about a dentist that tells you to go to a doctor for TMJ issues, and wouldn't go back to them for basic stuff.
It must be different here?

Where I'm from, no dentists will touch my TMJD. Only a specialist or a doctor will help me, because my teeth aren't the issue. The orthodontist, at 15, was the one that first spotted it, and he immediately referred me to a specialist surgeon. I've never heard of being sent to a dentist for it though. The dentists here wouldn't help me with it at all, they said. I asked and they told me they don't deal with that.

I have a list of TMJ specialists in TO though.

Maybe it depends on what sort of TMJD you have. Mine is a misplaced bone issue, which is clearly medical. The fluid is fine, and I THINK the discs are fine, though they are being worn down I'm sure, due to my jaw placement.

The surgery scares me. I fear having half of my face go numb, and the risk is too high for me to be okay with it. But something needs to be done.

I hate the lack of attention this disorder gets, considering how common it is. Not enough is being done to help people with TMJ disorders. I've been keeping up with the studies and statistics for years, and it really does seem like people just don't really think it's that serious. I can't believe that.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:26 PM
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BTW, my surgery, in America, is $40,000. I really don't want it done, but if I need it, is that really all covered by healthcare in Canada?
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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Yep, anything is covered if it's a necessary medical procedure.
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I mean, I don't see how it could be immoral but definitely irresponsible and dangerous. Not to say I would not consider it in certain situations but I would recognize the risk I am taking. It depends totally on the medication and if I need it badly enough to make the risk worth it. I am not gonna sit here and say I have never taken one of a leftover muscle relaxer of my husband's for horrible period cramps. Just depends on the medication.
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Yep, anything is covered if it's a necessary medical procedure.
This is so amazing to me.

You can tell I'm American, huh?



Still though, the surgery horrifies me.
I've met two other people who had the exact same surgery. BOTH had the half facial numbness. Didn't help my anxiety about it at all.

I don't want to live like this anymore, though. The pain is too much. It's just....I can't even explain it. It's in my neck and shoulders now, too. It worries me, like maybe I've waited too long and should've just done it at 15.
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My friend had it done and had no side effects. It's a really simple surgery... they make 2 tiny (hidden) incisions, do everything through there, and then wire your jaw shut for 4 months. That's the part I refuse to do
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My friend had it done and had no side effects. It's a really simple surgery... they make 2 tiny (hidden) incisions, do everything through there, and then wire your jaw shut for 4 months. That's the part I refuse to do
Was hers broken and plated into place again?

I know mine has to be broken, moved to the right and forward, and plated. The wiring freaks me the hell out.
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