SAR corgis?

[AdrianneIsabel]

I could have sworn I had seen two dachshunds as SAR dogs of some sort... Was I imagining it?

[~WelshStump~]

Well, I've never myself seen a SAR Corgi before, BUT, I did see a Dachshund do SAR work on a TV show years ago (Dogs with jobs). She worked with a team who did searches in heavily wooded areas, where her short stature made her perfect for finding lost children (not just getting into place adults and larger dogs couldn't go, but she was far less "intimidating" of a dog).

That said, I do think if you found the right breeder/dogs, YES! A Corgi of either variety could do it. But I agree in full to this-

Originally Posted by dreameyce

If you were looking for a working prospect Corgi, I'd go with a breeder with drivier, lighter boned dogs, as many Corgis are bred to have heavy bone, and be lazy. I prefer leggier dogs than often seen winning in the show rings, as they tend to get more ground under them when they move, and have better turning abilities. The original statements about Corgi heights was that you should be able to fit a fist under their chest, but even my small hands have trouble with most dogs in the ring, even fitting 3 fingers under some dogs in the ring today

Jinjo is a great hunter, and extremely determined. But, he is lower on stature than I would prefer, especially if you were looking into this kind of work. You would have to be extremely choosy with your breeder, on top of having all the proper health tests, looking for someone who selects for agility and ability above show ring conformation.

[Romy]

Small definitely has advantages. If a small dog gets injured in the field they're much easier to carry out. They can also fit into smaller places, which if you're ever pulling people out of earthquake rubble or something like that is a nice feature to have.

[Red Chrome]

My friend has 2 Corgis that run Agility and do well at it!

I would be wondering though, I know from the other forum that you only ever want outside dogs.Cardigan Corgi's are a lot like GSDs and need a lot of human/family interaction. I think it will be harder to find a good breeder that will let you chain a Corgi up outside or leave it outside all the time in a kennel.

Good Luck in your search. SAR takes a ton of time, money and dedication!

[dreameyce]

Originally Posted by Taqroy

Dreameyce is Keeva's breeder.

This thread is relevant to my interests. /resumeslurking

Yup, I'm Keevas (Very proud!) breeder, and thrilled to have my working prospect puppies in great working/performance homes! Both parents are performance/work titled. Galaxy is Keeva's dam, she herds, dog agility, K9 Nosework, lost dog SAR, and is a certified medical alert service dog. I'm incredibly lucky to have Galaxy, who is from performance titled and working lines, which also happen to be top-winning show lines, including the top winning bitch, and dog in Cardigans both in her recent pedigree. I love having a breed without a big show/performance split, and hope Cardigans always stay this way!

I have hopes/plans to breed Galaxy again this winter as long as all goes well, and of course if the breeding were to take. The stud I've chosen is in Oregon and I'm in Texas and I've not yet decided whether it would be a live breeding where I fly her up there, or shipped chilled semen. Will have to wait and see!

Emily~

[dreameyce]

Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel

I could have sworn I had seen two dachshunds as SAR dogs of some sort... Was I imagining it?

There's a line of Doxies bred for blood tracking deer... recovering lost deer who've been shot and not mortally wounded. They're imported lines, but bred in the NE and shipped all over the US. Some even have AKC field titles, and conformation Championships!! Veeeery nice dogs, and if I were to ever get a Doxie, I'd got for one of them

[dreameyce]

Originally Posted by Red Chrome

My friend has 2 Corgis that run Agility and do well at it!

I would be wondering though, I know from the other forum that you only ever want outside dogs.Cardigan Corgi's are a lot like GSDs and need a lot of human/family interaction. I think it will be harder to find a good breeder that will let you chain a Corgi up outside or leave it outside all the time in a kennel.

Good Luck in your search. SAR takes a ton of time, money and dedication!

All the SAR dogs I personally know are family pets first and foremost, then working dogs. Maybe you're talking about professional dogs, like who work with PD's, fire departments, or military, and live in kennel situations? Some of those dogs are expected to work with multiple handlers/not be handler biased. All depends on the training program.

Private SAR handlers are typically volunteers who work their personal pets in the field, on their own dime.

[dreameyce]

Originally Posted by stardogs

I worked my Corgi mix in SAR for 9 months - she's 15.5" at the shoulder and after a seminar we were dismissed because she was "too small" and thus wouldn't be able to cover ground effectively?! I really think politics were more to play, but realize that some trainers in SAR believe that there is a minimum size requirement and while your group might accept the dog, they may bow to a "master trainer" after you've put in time and money. :P

I've noted a size bias in many sports and work, not just in SAR. As someone who has done protection sport, herding, agility, scentwork and more with her Cardis, I get biased/breedist people in all venues who simply don't like short dogs. I have to remind them though, these are cattle herding dogs, and my dogs can, and do herd cattle, sheep, goats, ducks, and chickens.

[AdrianneIsabel]

Originally Posted by dreameyce

All the SAR dogs I personally know are family pets first and foremost, then working dogs. Maybe you're talking about professional dogs, like who work with PD's, fire departments, or military, and live in kennel situations? Some of those dogs are expected to work with multiple handlers/not be handler biased. All depends on the training program.

Private SAR handlers are typically volunteers who work their personal pets in the field, on their own dime.

She's referring specifically to Cliffdog who has made the choice/preference to tether/chain as opposed to kennel/crate when the dog is not interacting with it's owner. It's a personal choice but I do believe it limits the type of dogs you can own. Like I have said in another thread I would never chain a malinois in the yard unsupervised, talk about asking for trouble!

Thank you for confirming I'm not losing my mine lol Icould have sworn I had seen a SAR Dach or two...

[Red Chrome]

Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel

She's referring specifically to Cliffdog who has made the choice/preference to tether/chain as opposed to kennel/crate when the dog is not interacting with it's owner. It's a personal choice but I do believe it limits the type of dogs you can own. Like I have said in another thread I would never chain a malinois in the yard unsupervised, talk about asking for trouble!

Thank you for confirming I'm not losing my mine lol I could have sworn I had seen a SAR Dach or two...

That is what I was referring too.

I don't have a problem with it cause as you said it is a personal choice. I just know the Cardigan Corgis I know are very GSD like and would absolutely not do well in a tether environment. A nice kennel during the day and inside with people at night, fine...but tethered with little interaction except training..the ones I know would not do well.

I wouldn't chain a GSD out in the yard either. That is trouble.

I really like what I have seen from "Chase" of Elyan Corgis. He has some awesome progeny...my friend's is a tracking machine!