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Old 02-09-2012, 03:30 PM
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I love Petie (sorry for the misspelling earlier)

I'm all about efficiency because my dogs do not have the ground speed/accel of the BCs we run against quite often. But they leave hairs on the uprights and it's amazing how we consistently place in the top 5 when running in classes of 30, 40, 50 dogs...and having a blast. Would love to be able to work with a top trainer more often but so far my obsessive personality has been helpful lol

Are you trialing much these days? We need new vids
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:49 PM
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Have a couple things to add, first regarding the dogs creeping into the 2o2o position. What I tend to see in that regard is confident, drivey dogs that are slowing in anticipation almost like they get stuck in a vacuum. These are the same dogs that sit or down slowly when in a highly stimulating situation. I'm battling this right now with Zuma (first appeared yesterday) and let me tell you, it is not out of lack of confidence or lack of understanding. To combat it, I'm throwing a lot of early releases at her and straight exits.

Second, yes if you know running contacts it is very easy to tell that Susan Garrett's dogs in those videos posted by Dekka were trained in a stopped contact. They decelerate on the down ramp rather than accelerate.

As far as our training progress: working on accel/decel cues with Zuma as well as tightening up her jumping (Cik/cap anyone?!). Proofing the weaves as well. Classic is still working on being ok to run with strangers in the ring and now that he's back on his meds, I'm hoping to see some more progress with a tweaked training plan.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:03 PM
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Woohoo, day 3 of running contact training was pretty good today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGQEF...ature=youtu.be

There are some bad throws in there on my part, and she slowed down a bit near the end. You can't blame her though, I was throwing her toy really far into deep snow, she got a good workout.

She's getting the idea now, and had a few moments of brilliance. I can't wait to be able to run on grass!
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:42 PM
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As far as our training progress: working on accel/decel cues with Zuma as well as tightening up her jumping (Cik/cap anyone?!). Proofing the weaves as well. Classic is still working on being ok to run with strangers in the ring and now that he's back on his meds, I'm hoping to see some more progress with a tweaked training plan.
I have been training a wrap as well, it's so cute and fun! We work on it around a tree and we've used a jump wing once so far. I'm training it more in a SG style though, with only one command meaning wrap the wing, and the direction of the wrap comes from my body cue.

The stranger thing has me a wee bit worried because Panzer is not a fan of strange people at all. I'm going to start a foundations class in March, will be really good for her.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:34 PM
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The stranger thing has me a wee bit worried because Panzer is not a fan of strange people at all. I'm going to start a foundations class in March, will be really good for her.
I tend to not see as much problem with drivey dogs with this even if they are worried about people because they are so focused on their work. However, great danes arn't necessarily known for their drive, even though Classic has more than a typical dane he is never committed to work as a malinois would be.

Take your time with your training and do a lot of focus work and you shouldn't have very many problems!
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I tend to not see as much problem with drivey dogs with this even if they are worried about people because they are so focused on their work. However, great danes arn't necessarily known for their drive, even though Classic has more than a typical dane he is never committed to work as a malinois would be.

Take your time with your training and do a lot of focus work and you shouldn't have very many problems!
I agree with this. As long as the dog is driven enough, by time you're trialing they don't tend to notice the "scenery" so much.

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I have been training a wrap as well, it's so cute and fun! We work on it around a tree and we've used a jump wing once so far. I'm training it more in a SG style though, with only one command meaning wrap the wing, and the direction of the wrap comes from my body cue.
I didn't even know SG did Cik/Cap. How does her method differ from ST's? ST says she uses two cues because she can but it's not really a requirement of teaching the behavior.
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Woohoo, day 3 of running contact training was pretty good today!
I'm curious, because I haven't done a ton of reading on this method of running contacts or seen it done. Do you mark the 'jumps' in any way? It looks like the toy is thrown as she's running, so I'm wondering what the distinction is for the dog between running to the end or not.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:02 PM
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SG teaches a "Check" cue that means wrap the jump collected, and an "Up" cue that means take the jump extended and keep on going. It's in her Success With One Jump DVD.

Did you see our Day 3 RC vid?
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I'm curious, because I haven't done a ton of reading on this method of running contacts or seen it done. Do you mark the 'jumps' in any way? It looks like the toy is thrown as she's running, so I'm wondering what the distinction is for the dog between running to the end or not.
Right now there is no distinction. At this point it's pretty much just teaching the dog to run fast and building value for running on the board.

I'm training based on Silvia Trkman's method.... http://silvia.trkman.net/cone.htm

The thing that I love about her is that everything really is just a game. So, she doesn't worry about rewarding the dog for jumps at this point, it's all about keeping it fun for the dog.
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SG teaches a "Check" cue that means wrap the jump collected, and an "Up" cue that means take the jump extended and keep on going. It's in her Success With One Jump DVD.
Oh ok - never saw that one!

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Did you see our Day 3 RC vid?
I missed it some how but just watched it. Looking much better for sure! I can't wait to see how she progresses through it

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Right now there is no distinction. At this point it's pretty much just teaching the dog to run fast and building value for running on the board.

I'm training based on Silvia Trkman's method.... http://silvia.trkman.net/cone.htm

The thing that I love about her is that everything really is just a game. So, she doesn't worry about rewarding the dog for jumps at this point, it's all about keeping it fun for the dog.
Yep she's very into speed and having fun with the dog. Have you ever read any interviews with her? Or even much of her blog? I love her casual attitude about competing.
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