Returning a dog to the breeder - Questions/Rant

[JessLough]

Originally Posted by Teal

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I am appalled that you are implying I neglected him in any way. You can see in his pictures that he is in NO way neglected, physically or emotionally - he is just not the type of dog for me. ]

Maybe the implying from things you have said in other posts in this thread.

I am doing my best to give the dog at least basic care - but without giving the full details on the dog it's tough to explain just how hard it is to do anything with this animal.

this dog, is the EXACT opposite and even the smallest interactions with it are hell

However, it is throwing my house into chaos to have the dog here and the dog is not getting the attention and training it needs because, quite frankly, I want the poor dog gone.

If the dog is not getting the attention and training it needs... if you are doing the absolute bare minimum and basic needs... yes, to many of us, you ARE neglecting the dog.

[AdrianneIsabel]

I hope this is a lesson to everyone to think carefully about and take seriously the words of those who *know* their breed.

People often acquire dogs with unrealistic expectations. People buy dogs and expect borders not to herd, and expect labs not to swim, chew, and play, and expect malinois not to be monsters, and so on.

Being more careful in the buying process will prevent puppies from bonding then being pulled away at a vital growth stage.

[Jules]

Well, all this thread did, was give me a major case of puppy fever. I can't get a wrinkly puppy out of my head who follows me around constantly

WANT. WANT. WANT.

Originally Posted by Jules

Well, all this thread did, was give me a major case of puppy fever. I can't get a wrinkly puppy out of my head who follows me around constantly

WANT. WANT. WANT.

THIS. This whole thread has made me WANT a Fila!!! Completely outside the point of the thread, but its true.
Good luck to the little Fila boy. I hope things are easier for you in your home now.

[Ivy]

I'll take him if the breeder doesn't want him back

Good luck with the predicament you found yourself in. I'm sure it will work out in the end.

[monkeys23]

Originally Posted by AdrianneIsabel

I hope this is a lesson to everyone to think carefully about and take seriously the words of those who *know* their breed.

People often acquire dogs with unrealistic expectations. People buy dogs and expect borders not to herd, and expect labs not to swim, chew, and play, and expect malinois not to be monsters, and so on.

Being more careful in the buying process will prevent puppies from bonding then being pulled away at a vital growth stage.

I agree, but I would like to add to the breed expectations..... People need to not buy Northern breeds because they are pretty and then be surprised and horrified to find out they are NOT Labs and eat your house when they get bored and will RUN at the first given opportunity. Or eat your cat, chickens, rabbit, etc. etc. after being left alone with it all the time because oh if you raise them with them they will be fine.... riiiiiiiight because prey drive isn't genetic.
Most pet owners aren't gonna run a dog five miles a day and have the patience to build a working relationship with that Northern breed brain in order to stimulate them mentally... all the exercise in the world isn't gonna help if their brains aren't worked too.

They are working dogs and don't do well in pet homes. I ended up with a second because some well meaning lady liked my dog and went and got her own. Yes I took her with the intention of finding her a home, but realistically..... she will always be safest and happiest with me. Considering how unlucky the rest of the dogs from that bust were I owe it to her.

Most homes are not capable of handling a Siberian husky, Alaskan sled dog, or other Northern breed dogs. This includes show line sibes... dear god have I seen some train wrecks with pet owners ruining good dogs and setting them up to fail. I'm really sick of seeing these dogs screwed over by pet owners.

End rant.

[Dizzy]

A LOT of members on this board have rehomed dogs they couldn't, or wouldn't handle. A LOT of well respected members at that.

Sh1t happens, at least she is being honest and truthful instead of doing it on the sly.

All the best research in the world doesn't always mean you get what you expect. Even in the most predictable of breeds.

Yes I'd LOVE that quality in a dog, but she would be more neglectful to keep it and resent it than act now. Not everyone is ruled by their heart and big soppy brown eyes.

I am, for the record

[NicoleLJ]

Originally Posted by monkeys23

I agree, but I would like to add to the breed expectations..... People need to not buy Northern breeds because they are pretty and then be surprised and horrified to find out they are NOT Labs and eat your house when they get bored and will RUN at the first given opportunity. Or eat your cat, chickens, rabbit, etc. etc. after being left alone with it all the time because oh if you raise them with them they will be fine.... riiiiiiiight because prey drive isn't genetic.
Most pet owners aren't gonna run a dog five miles a day and have the patience to build a working relationship with that Northern breed brain in order to stimulate them mentally... all the exercise in the world isn't gonna help if their brains aren't worked too.

They are working dogs and don't do well in pet homes. I ended up with a second because some well meaning lady liked my dog and went and got her own. Yes I took her with the intention of finding her a home, but realistically..... she will always be safest and happiest with me. Considering how unlucky the rest of the dogs from that bust were I owe it to her.

Most homes are not capable of handling a Siberian husky, Alaskan sled dog, or other Northern breed dogs. This includes show line sibes... dear god have I seen some train wrecks with pet owners ruining good dogs and setting them up to fail. I'm really sick of seeing these dogs screwed over by pet owners.

End rant.

THis is so good it has to be repeated. Doug LOVES the LOOK of huskies. He adores them. Always wanted one. BUT as I got to know him I learned that what he likes in a dogs character is not what a husky is. So I kept telling him "no this is not what you want. Trust me." What he wanted was a husky with a German Shepherd personality like Sheena. He just could not figure out that each breed is an indiviual and though you may love the look the breed personality may not fit you. He just was not convinced so we got Luna who is a mix of a husky, GSD and lab. Though lab was dominant in her looks her personality is a lot more husky. He loves Luna but he now sees that though he may love the look of the breed he will never agian own a husky. Nothing agianst the breed. They are gorgeous dogs, very smart, very strong and so on. But they require a certian type of owner. I have worked with the breed before so training Luna has not been to difficult. But Doug has a hard time dealing with the fact that Luna will never be a Sheena. He has learned that he has to look at the total dog and not the looks when determining the type of breed he wants. Sometimes that is what it takes for someone to realize it. And like I said he loves Luna. He looks forward to teaching her to pull a sled and wagon, to taking her for runs with his bike and so on.

[PitBullLove]

Originally Posted by JessLough

Maybe the implying from things you have said in other posts in this thread.






If the dog is not getting the attention and training it needs... if you are doing the absolute bare minimum and basic needs... yes, to many of us, you ARE neglecting the dog.

Exactly. I was going to Pull up the same quotes. You may have just been way over dramatic but you implied you could barely even give him any care or attention. You may not know how to work with this dog but you made him sound vicious in your first posts. And the way you responded to people trying to help you find the address was really appauling, you hav received opinions and advice - what you requested and have picked all of the negative things out of posts. I don't get it.

[Miakoda]

I agree that returning the dog is the best and most responsible course if action. I never said nor implied otherwise.

But when one's home is nothing but a revolving door, then I think that other issues should be addressed before acquiring another puppy-of-the-month.

And I did infer that the dog was being ignored snd possibly shut away from almost all human interaction except that which was/is negative interaction. And whole a person has a pup/dog in their possession, they owe it to such animal to do more than dump food and water at it's feet. Especially a puppy who's whole foundation is being carved out during these time. It's not fair to ruin the dog for it's future owner.