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Old 09-12-2005, 01:21 PM
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They are spaying and neutering at 8 weeks now. At least in Ottawa at the spay neuter clinic they do it that you and apparently they use laser techinques. All monkey talk to me did not know until we start looking at neutering Yuck when he was 4 months. Most vets said no way, but we did go to the clinic and they told me they do it as early as 8 weeks and it is actually easier than waiting. Do not know I am not a vet.

All of my males are neutered before they leave. My females are sold on contract with limited registration and I do check to make sure it is done. I have brought home an 8 month old pregnant bitch before because the owners refused to spay even after signing the contract. Pregnancy was terminated and the dog was spayed and rehomed elsewhere. We do our best to try and find a perfect home but sometimes it does not happen. I have stopped breeding now, what I have is it.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:06 PM
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why not?

it's often the only proof of ownership and sorely needed to return animals to their rightful owner if they were stolen, ran away or got lost otherwise.

don't you want to maximize the chance to get your dog back if you ever lose it or if there's a dispute about who owns it?

would you rather your dog be held at a shelter until someone can get a hold of you to tell you they have your dog, even if it takes a week or two? here in L.A. the shelters only have a mandatory holding period of three business days for dogs picked up without any kind of ID. if the shelter is full and needs to take in more animals, those are the first ones to be euthanized to make room.
Because I don't like the thought of of branding my dog or sticking my baby puppy with a microchip. I just don't.

I think a more simplistic, dare I say humane, way of identifying a dog is doing something quite simple- tags.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:16 PM
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I don't trust tags. They can get lost, and mostly they can just be removed. So if someone steals your dog, you won't have any proof that it's yours.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:17 PM
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The microchip is the size of a grain of rice and is encased in a biocompatible glass, the same used in human pacemakers, to prevent rejection from the animals body.

In dogs, the microchip is inserted into the loose skin on the back of the dog's neck using a specially designed implanting device. Insertion is a quick and easy process that causes no more discomfort than a usual vaccination.

Tags come off real easy, most folks only get a tag when the rabies shot is due, which now is every 3 years. Losing a tag is too easy. Although if it does stay on it would help relocating the dog with the rightful owner.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:21 PM
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Because I don't like the thought of of branding my dog or sticking my baby puppy with a microchip. I just don't.

I think a more simplistic, dare I say humane, way of identifying a dog is doing something quite simple- tags.
Real simple. Like dogs shouldn't be wearing a collar unless they are going out off the property with their owner. OTHERWISE the collar can get hung up on a car bumper, or anything else that protrudes out and the dog can get hung and choke to death.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:40 PM
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Because I don't like the thought of of branding my dog or sticking my baby puppy with a microchip. I just don't.

I think a more simplistic, dare I say humane, way of identifying a dog is doing something quite simple- tags.
i agree that chipping is a better, more permanent and reliable method of ID than tatooing, but it's not any worse than giving the dog a vaccination, so it also involves a lot less pain.

tags can be removed or get lost, a microchip can't.

i find it is a more humane thing if a dog can be identified at any time and returned to the rightful owner instead of possibly being euthanized rather than avoiding a second or two of discomfort when the chip is injected.
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I agree that microchipping is a great thing. You may think that a collar and tag is more humane BigDog2191 but I have actually found that the pups that I have had are actually more annoyed by having a collar on for the first time than they are by having a microchip inserted.
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Old 10-03-2005, 06:55 AM
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Because I don't like the thought of of branding my dog or sticking my baby puppy with a microchip. I just don't.

I think a more simplistic, dare I say humane, way of identifying a dog is doing something quite simple- tags.
No tags, none of my dogs wear tags with their name and my number on, because people steal dogs here and call you and demand huge sums of money for the return, so the pet back protect scheme was invented, the dogs wears a tag with a free phone no on it, if a dog is found the finders call the number and pass on their info to the company, the company then calls the owner and tells them where their dog is, then the owner can go and pick up the dog, its quite expensive but worth it, all my dogs are also microchipped and dna tested. Also if you show your dog you cant leave the collar on (because it marks the fur) so a microchip is the only proof you have that the dog is yours!
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:03 AM
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1] All puppies should be vet checked a minimum of three times before leaving.
Once is enough
2] All puppies should at least have the first vaccines, mine have one and two done.
Here that is not possiable because the first is given at nine weeks and then two weeks later
3] Puppies should be at least 8 weeks old before leaving no exceptions, mine are 12 weeks.
Puppys should go to their new homes as soon as poss (after 8 weeks) because it is harder for them to settle the older they are
4] Puppies should be spay or neutered before leaving, or at the very least sold with a contract and the contract should be verified and if not fulfilled then the puppy should be removed.
Agreed providing they are sold as pets and we arnt talking about show dogs
5] Puppies should be tatooed or microchipped before leaving and registered before leaving.
Microchip not possable in the smaller breeds they need to be a bit bigger first
6] Puppies should come with a guarantee of a minimum of 2 years, mine are 5 years
I do a year, as I cannot take responsability for incorrect care etc.
7] Puppies should be well socialized to children, other pets and daily house hold things
Of corse, also you need to make sure your pups are well socialized with different kinds of people, Eg, men women, elderly people, and different size dogs
8] Puppies should be well started in their house training, should be crate trained
Here in the UK crtae training is not widely done
9] Puppies should be temperment tested and the paperwork should be provided.
Agree
10] Puppies should be loved by the breeder and the utmost concern should be given to selling them, many questions should be asked and home visits when ever possible. If that means the breeder hops on a plane to go check the place out then do it, I do.
Yep i ask loads of questions, its the only way to having peice of mind
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