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Old 07-28-2009, 02:40 PM
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I will have to severely disagree with the assertion that fixed dogs are "less interesting". in most cases, I find them almost more interesting, though in some cases "interesting" means "annoying". LOL.

Sawyer was neutered at 18 months and is fit as a fiddle now at 5 1/2. My foster Lab was in great shape as well and she was spayed at some point before I got her.
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Old 07-28-2009, 02:42 PM
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Ozzy is definitely more interesting than most intact dogs I know.

Seriously, I dare you to spend an hour with this dog and say he's uninteresting compared to an intact dog.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:51 PM
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:07 PM
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Auggie almost certainly would have developed cancer if I didn't remove the cryptorchid testicle.
I think my dog is far more interesting alive than dead.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:24 PM
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once again, get off your high horse. your dogs are NO BETTER than anybody elses.
Lets push him off Fran!
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:30 PM
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I can't help but remember what Dekka said in the last thread that the OP started, something like "there is no debate."

It's the same here. He posts something really offensive, and its not for any point. He's NOT saying, "Hey guys, I've heard that s/n isn't all perfect. How do you feel?"

He's saying that your dogs are substandard because they are s/n and we all know that's a bunch of bull****.

Personally, if I wasn't going to show, I'd totally neuter my future puppy after a year or two and he'd grown up and matured.

It's so much easier, IMHO, to have a s/n animal.

As for the health benefits, there are both sides to that one. I've seen what s/n too early can do to the structure of a dog. I've also seen what not spaying can do when people aren't responsible enough to handle it.

The pounds are full of the latter reason. That's not even mentioning all the STDs that dogs can catch from each other.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:41 PM
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Define less interesting first.

Then I'll add my opinion on that.

As for spaying - I don't want to deal with MY periods every month, never mind my dogs.

I don't want to keep her shut away or change my plans because she's in season, and she doesn't want to be shut in.

I fail to see how these are not benefits both for me AND my dog.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:49 PM
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Define less interesting first.

Then I'll add my opinion on that.

As for spaying - I don't want to deal with MY periods every month, never mind my dogs.
I don't want to keep her shut away or change my plans because she's in season, and she doesn't want to be shut in.

I fail to see how these are not benefits both for me AND my dog.
Me either.... and honestly, some days I wish *I* could go get "fixed" LOL

As for keeping them shut away, that is a good point.... My dogs sleep with me, travel with me, and are a part of our everyday life... Mindy never has that change since she was spayed, Di however, is still intact for medical reasons, and has to spend far more time in a crate than she or I like during her season...
If she'd leave the "panties" on that would help... but she won't.. How upsetting it must be for her when she spends 355 nights in our bed, and twice a year for about 5 nights at least, during the worst of the bleeding, she must sleep in a crate...
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As for spaying - I don't want to deal with MY periods every month, never mind my dogs.
Ditto!!!!!
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:21 AM
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Convenience is the only serious reason in favor of spying or neutering. However, arguments in favor of desexing dogs are driven by ideology and propaganda. Science always honest, if it is a true hard science. Look here: http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf

Dogs are individuals and removal of any part of body, especially, reproductive organs, changes them irreversibly. For active dog users it matters. Many of us keep dogs not just as pets, but rather for enjoyment of dog watching in action. For example, you do not need to be not a consumptive hunter to enjoy open field coursing, sledding or herding activity of dogs of your breed. Even dog fights is an important part of their natural interactions. I do not mean pit fights, which are disgusting. I mean fights over a reason, not to death, but fights over female in heat, defending the food, protecting the master, dominance in the pack, etc. Normal dogs do not fight to death. When I selecting a puppy out of a litter, I always watch for the most competitive one, because I like dominant dogs capable to fight well, if necessary. Sheep guarding dogs must fight stray dogs, foxes and wolves attacking sheep. Lead dog in dog sledding team usually left intact and, if you are a breeder, or think about breeding as a possibility, you know that spayed or neutered dogs are lost for this purpose.
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