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Old 08-10-2005, 07:58 AM
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Oakley's about 1, and he's crazy? Some of it is age-related. I wanted to kill my two when they were around a year old. About the twisting, nipping, hysteria - I had one dog who did that - the only thing that worked (long-term) was staying calm and not getting emotionally involved. It's very hard, because you're getting physically hurt and rejected by this dog who's supposed to love you, but if your emotions get involved in one of his outbursts, the situation just gets more out of control.

Don't know if this helps, hope your situation improves.
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Old 08-10-2005, 09:12 AM
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i know some of it is age related, but he has a crazy play side...and then a crazy-evil side...and that evil side is like something is posessing him...i think he needs an exorcist, lol...its just scary

and it is easy to stay calm when im in the house...but when he is growling and snapping like that trying to get to another dog...i cant .... i mean, the other owner is prob scared enough as it is...i cant just stand there, ya know? plus, he starts biting at my arm, so i have to move
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:22 PM
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I think I know what you mean. Mine would get this crazy gleam in their eye, tuck themselves into the "running cur" position and tear around the house knocking rugs and lamps flying. On leash, they would rear up and back away, twisting their heads to try to pull the collar over their head and fighting the leash like I was trying to drag them to their deaths. Usually, I was just dragging them away from the cyclist, skateboarder, toddler or Great Dane they were straining to assasinate.

You're not alone, and Oakley's probably not too unusual. I could be wrong, of course, and I'm sure it's frustrating, but hang in there. If nothing else, age takes the edge off. Obedience training, even when it doesn't seem to be working on the problem, will help over time. Find his favorite command - my current dog learned 'sit' in 2 seconds, so whenever I wanted her to STOP DOING THAT RIGHT NOW, I told her to sit. (She, of course, soon learned that she could sit while still doing most things, so now I have to go rip the stolen washcloth out of her teeth while she's sitting obediently, but she will obey that command while she'll ignore "Drop it") Asserting yourself periodically through walks at situations where Oakley isn't hyper is a good idea - I like making mine sit and stay before we cross streets (also a safety issue).

Hope it helps, sorry if I'm just repeating what you've already thought of/done. By the way, he's adorable.
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:20 PM
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Have you considered discussing with your vet that this dog may be displaying signs of rage syndrone or something is not wired right in his brain. This is no joke. If you haven't I would. Now having said that. If any dog of mine ever ever challenged me or made that kind of aggressive move toward a member of my family or me barring there is nothing wrong with his brain,believe me he would think ten times before he ever attempted it again. This is aggressive dominant behavior and before someone gets hurt severely you need to investigate if this is physiological or just plain being a bullish male with temper tantrums who has no respect for his owner or anyone else human! Which I think it is the later. Have you had him since a pup? Who allowed him to be possesive of his food bowl without severe reprimand? Major behavioral problems you are going to have to work on one at a time. Good luck and get some professional help to help you with him. The black dog in your post is him them I assume he is shepherd mix? or black shepherd? Black shepherds are notorius for being a little wacko if not from exeptional breeding. Worked with too many of them.......
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:48 PM
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I really do not want this to turn into what my other thread turned into...

i just really need help with Oakley's MAJOR problem...

basically, my aunt said it the best...."when he wants something, there is no stopping him...he will do anything he can to get to it"

and if this includes growling/snarling and snapping at myself, my boyfriend (which he did today), or anyone else in the family, then so be it, he doesnt seem to care.

98% of the time, he doesnt get what he is going after...but the problem keeps getting worse.

Its really bad on walks...when he wants to play with other dogs...when he cant, he starts jumping up, snarling, and snapping at me...it gets scary, not to mention im sure, scary for the other owners, wondering what the heck is wrong with my dog, and prob scared for their lives if he gets loose...even though, if he did...he would run over wagging his tail, and start playing...


same goes for anything else...he is obsessed with paper...and likes to steal it and shred it up...the other day, my aunt was trying to stop him from getting a roll of bounty, and he lunged at her, caught his teeth on her hand, and didnt break skin, but caused a nasty bruise...

My aunt (despite the fact that she isnt consistent with him) has raised dogs most of her life...she used to breed huskies, so she has had a lot of experience with many dogs...my bf had a dog all his life as well...basically everyone i know that has owned dogs, has commented on the fact that Oakley is just not normal...

and i am starting to see it more and more...

i am beginning to think that there is possibly something medically wrong with him, because his behavior is just so uncharacteristic of anything i can find...

i was reading that strays(which oakley was at one point) can become aggressive since they had to fend for themselves...but i can take food away from oakley's bowl, while he is eating, and he couldnt careless...so its not like he feels the need to protect his food...same with his toys, he will let me take them away with no aggression (unless he starts playing tug of war or something, but its a very different type of 'aggressiveness')

it seems like he is a COMPLETELY different dog, and a scary one at that.,...something takes over his brain...and i am so scared that he is going to seriously bite someone one day...

please, help...

we want to take him to an animal behaviorist, but the only one around here, i called today, and they closed!! grrr...

where else could i take him, where i could get help, someone to check him out....

just any advice would be great.


Thanks so much
So where is the trusty shock collar now???????????
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:52 PM
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ha ha...

i dont use it on him when we go for walks, cuz i am now walking him with a leash, and, i dont have it on when he is in the house...

like i said, i use it basically as a portable fence...to show him boundaries..i dont shock him everytime he does something wrong
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:56 PM
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Have you considered discussing with your vet that this dog may be displaying signs of rage syndrone or something is not wired right in his brain. This is no joke. If you haven't I would. Now having said that. If any dog of mine ever ever challenged me or made that kind of aggressive move toward a member of my family or me barring there is nothing wrong with his brain,believe me he would think ten times before he ever attempted it again. This is aggressive dominant behavior and before someone gets hurt severely you need to investigate if this is physiological or just plain being a bullish male with temper tantrums who has no respect for his owner or anyone else human! Which I think it is the later. Have you had him since a pup? Who allowed him to be possesive of his food bowl without severe reprimand? Major behavioral problems you are going to have to work on one at a time. Good luck and get some professional help to help you with him. The black dog in your post is him them I assume he is shepherd mix? or black shepherd? Black shepherds are notorius for being a little wacko if not from exeptional breeding. Worked with too many of them.......

yeah, we are getting a behaviorist...we have considered the fact that his brain isnt wired right MANY times, lol

we had him since he was 6 months

and i said he isnt posessive of his food bowl...at ALL...i could take away food while he was eating if i wanted to...ive stuck my hand in his bowl tons of times while he was eating...he couldnt care less...

yeah, the pic is him...we were told he was a gsd/terrier mix...and someone else said he had cattle dog in him, and someone else said border collie too...so, yeah, we dont know what he is
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