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Old 06-22-2008, 10:22 AM
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I understand the point of this post...being a Mod elsewhere I know baseless Reports are not fun...BUT I do want to say having read the rules I understand why you might get some that YOU...personally do not feel should have been reported.

From the rules:
"Chazhound Forum does not allow any post or messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws"

I see posts like the bolded, daily here...and they are fine (fun?). I am only saying...it is a "rule" that is violated here...often.

From the rules:
1. Please be respectful to other members and moderators. You don’t have to like or agree with everyone, but please state your thoughts in a respectful manner. Absolutely no name calling. No personal attacks.

Again...we just had a couple threads in a row where personal attacks were made.

From the rules:
2. Do not “bash” new members because they don’t know about puppymills, backyard breeding or any other practice you may not agree with. Don't jump to conclusion about new members. They may not be a "troll" just because they ask a question that seems obvious to others. Education is the best way the change any problem.

I have seen this also...many times...MANY times. It is almost a game here to do this. I do believe that handling trolls...from outing them to removing them is a Mod/Admin issue. But I admit I have had my fun "exposing" said same as a mere member. But again...it is a rule..that is somewhat..."flexible" here it would seem.

I guess my point is...is takes a while as a member here to get that...tho the rules are posted...they are not in stone...not even close to it. I don't know if these reports you speak of are from newer members...BUT I do think that if they are...the rules themselves might be the cause. I am totally 100% fine with how things are done around here most of the time...but it DOES get confusing when it comes to the overall across the board importance of the rules...esp as a newbie.

What I think is the report feature is a link to the Mod...and IF you are not sure about something...you SHOULD report it and allow a Mod to make the call. If it is excessive than perhaps that person should be contacted privately. But if there is MORE than one or two or three people reporting issues...maybe it's not them specifically...but the overall rules vs reality issue that has them confused.

I may not be making ANY sense here, and I apologize if that's the case...but I did want to mention the above. If something is "well known by now" than perhaps the rules should be tweaked to reflect the more laid back...vibe of the forum as a whole to avoid confusion from newer members?
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Old 06-22-2008, 10:26 AM
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Its like on other forums,some people have nothing better to do than report pointless threads/posts.

I dont get it.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:51 AM
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My responses will be highlighted throughout, I hope I am coherent enough, I just woke up.

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I understand the point of this post...being a Mod elsewhere I know baseless Reports are not fun...BUT I do want to say having read the rules I understand why you might get some that YOU...personally do not feel should have been reported.

Without airing the reported posts and the reasons behind it (because that would simply be uncool) I can tell you that the purpose of my writing this post was aimed at 3 and 4. If ANY rules are broken, please do report, mods do not read every thread, but if you (generally speaking) simply do not like the person, please don't stalk them and then proceed to report each post that you do not like. This was my point. It all comes down to being the bigger person and walking away, its harder than it sounds, but it feels better when it's done.

From the rules:
"Chazhound Forum does not allow any post or messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws"

I see posts like the bolded, daily here...and they are fine (fun?). I am only saying...it is a "rule" that is violated here...often.

True and they never get reported.. and people participate. What the community wants the community gets. Except for drive by porn spam.. ick.

From the rules:
1. Please be respectful to other members and moderators. You don’t have to like or agree with everyone, but please state your thoughts in a respectful manner. Absolutely no name calling. No personal attacks.

Again...we just had a couple threads in a row where personal attacks were made.

Then why weren't they reported? I wasn't around for the latest round of heated threads, so I didn't read them, but being a Mod elsewhere, you should know that all the dirty stuff is not aired. We DO send warnings to people via PM's and such... please and this goes for everyone, do not assume we let things slide by because you don't see any repercussions on the boards themselves.

From the rules:
2. Do not “bash” new members because they don’t know about puppymills, backyard breeding or any other practice you may not agree with. Don't jump to conclusion about new members. They may not be a "troll" just because they ask a question that seems obvious to others. Education is the best way the change any problem.

I have seen this also...many times...MANY times. It is almost a game here to do this. I do believe that handling trolls...from outing them to removing them is a Mod/Admin issue. But I admit I have had my fun "exposing" said same as a mere member. But again...it is a rule..that is somewhat..."flexible" here it would seem.

There is a huge difference between a troll and a member coming to share and learn. I say have your fun with trolls- they won't be back and if they do come back, they get banned. Should we be respectful to people who come and are inexperienced and lack knowledge? Absolutely.

I guess my point is...is takes a while as a member here to get that...tho the rules are posted...they are not in stone...not even close to it. I don't know if these reports you speak of are from newer members...BUT I do think that if they are...the rules themselves might be the cause. I am totally 100% fine with how things are done around here most of the time...but it DOES get confusing when it comes to the overall across the board importance of the rules...esp as a newbie.

Totally understand. We have rules to "go by" but we try to let people govern themselves.. or hang themselves, lol. It does take awhile to learn the ropes.. just as it with any new place.

What I think is the report feature is a link to the Mod...and IF you are not sure about something...you SHOULD report it and allow a Mod to make the call. If it is excessive than perhaps that person should be contacted privately. But if there is MORE than one or two or three people reporting issues...maybe it's not them specifically...but the overall rules vs reality issue that has them confused.

I may not be making ANY sense here, and I apologize if that's the case...but I did want to mention the above. If something is "well known by now" than perhaps the rules should be tweaked to reflect the more laid back...vibe of the forum as a whole to avoid confusion from newer members?

Like I said, if rules are broken, then yes, report the post. However, if it is from pure dislike of the person and their message... well, it's not okay, don't do it, walk away. I truly do not feel that there is any issue with understanding rules and guidelines.

I'll continue to read every reported post I get and look into why it was reported, but it would save me from a lot of eye rolling if the reasons were legit.. like someone was actually insulted, or someone was bashing, name calling, etc.. All too often we get reported posts from simple dislike of another being...and well, it's time we all grew up in that aspect. OR! Maybe we learn to get along... agree to disagree...respect our differences and just have fun.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:54 AM
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Good reminder ! Especially the rudeness issue . If you wouldn't say it to the person's face ....don't print it . Especailly when you use #%&*(@! symbols .
Very much agreed here...

Generally speaking:

Are you feeling bold because it's the internet and whoever you are aiming your shotgun of insults at is a world away? Don't let it catch up to you. Treat others as you would like yourself to be treated. Treat others with the kindness that you treat yours dogs (positive reinforcement, etc). Just be kind... and if you have to think twice about posting something, then do NOT post it.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:17 PM
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I agree that forum culture dictates what is allowable...and I think rules are far from concrete and as any pirate will tell you...they're more guidelines than rules.

But the fair thing is to make that very plain...
I honestly could see from a new person's perspective...a read through of the rules...NOT matching up with reality on this forum. Nothing needs to be done about that...but I do think it needed mentioning.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:18 PM
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*runs and hides from the rules/guidelines*
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:20 PM
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Think of them as Guidlines, rather than Rules

And remember, it takes an extremely rare, egregious case for us to ban or even issue an infraction without at least one warning.

We really are a largely self-regulating group here and those who lack the ability to do so tend to not last, mostly choosing to leave. Most of the time, though, new members get a taste of freedom and like it well enough to watch and unlearn things that have been ingrained on more tightly ruled sites.
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And you can't run Jess, they are EVERYWHERE. RULES RULES RULES.....
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:21 PM
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teehee Renee...beat you to the guidelines thing LOL.
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