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Old 01-28-2004, 01:00 PM
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Question Can you train Salukis?

Hi,
I am the first time owner of a beautiful Saluki dog, whom I adore.
He's pefect in every way except one, He doesn't return on command.
I have researched into the breed and all of my sources have stated that you cannot train Salukis.
I refuse to beleive this as he is trained in every aspect apart from the failure to return.
Does anyone have any ideas on how I could retreive my dog short of rugby tackling him to the ground?
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Old 01-31-2004, 08:43 PM
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Your sources shouldn't say that youcannot train Salukis. Some dogs are harder to train than others, some dogs may be stuborn or easily distracted... If I'm not mistaken Salukis are sight hounds, and these can be hard to train to have a reliable recall. Try simple retraining inside the house, and then outside in a small fenced in area. When he does come, praise him like you've never praised him before with treats, petting ect! If you try to train your heart out and he still doesn't come back than it may be neccisary to keep him on a leash or in a fenced in are at all times. He wouldn't be the only dog that this has to be done with - let us know how it turns out.
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Old 01-31-2004, 11:14 PM
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I think Brattina's got the right idea. I understand that you and Caspian are going to start some training for shows very soon. Maybe your instructor can give you some insight. I've heard it can be difficult to get a sight hound to return immediately, but if it were impossible, they couldn't have been successful hunting companions for thousands of years, could they? Caspian's young, so he may need more time to expend all that tremendous energy. Some people have laughed at something I tend to do with my animals (even cats) when they've seen me do it, then had to stop laughing when they've seen the results. Sometimes I just get eye to eye with them and explain what I want and why it is important. I don't get fancy, I use a low, calm voice and make them look at me. I don't know exactly why it works, but it does. I may have to repeat it periodically, but it's not a big trauma to do it. Every once in awhile I have to remind Bimmer that he must come immediately when I whistle; that I have a reason for calling him back even if he's off hunting. I know it saved his life one night when he was after three coyotes behind the house. It's worth a few tries. It can't hurt and it's free! Just be ready for some people to look at you like you should be locked up!
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:49 PM
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I think Brattina's got the right idea. I understand that you and Caspian are going to start some training for shows very soon. Maybe your instructor can give you some insight. I've heard it can be difficult to get a sight hound to return immediately, but if it were impossible, they couldn't have been successful hunting companions for thousands of years, could they? Caspian's young, so he may need more time to expend all that tremendous energy. Some people have laughed at something I tend to do with my animals (even cats) when they've seen me do it, then had to stop laughing when they've seen the results. Sometimes I just get eye to eye with them and explain what I want and why it is important. I don't get fancy, I use a low, calm voice and make them look at me. I don't know exactly why it works, but it does. I may have to repeat it periodically, but it's not a big trauma to do it. Every once in awhile I have to remind Bimmer that he must come immediately when I whistle; that I have a reason for calling him back even if he's off hunting. I know it saved his life one night when he was after three coyotes behind the house. It's worth a few tries. It can't hurt and it's free! Just be ready for some people to look at you like you should be locked up!

Ha! Renee, I swear you take ideas right out of my mouth -- like every topic I read I start at the top, and then get an idea/suggestion in my head to post so I'll scroll down a little further only to see that you already posted it! LoL! I did the exact same thing with my Maddie. I explained to her why she had to come back immediately when I called, because if I do its for a good reason! There was a huge stray shepherd/pit pull mix (i hate to say this bcz i hate when ppl discriminate against dog breeds i.e - Pit Bulls) that had killed a couple of dogs in our city ... One night - about 11pm I let Maddie out, she ran around a little and did her business and then started looking for rabbits to chase (its strange that we have wild rabbits downtown ) I was standing at the back door watching to see if there was any and suddenly I saw this dog - that's evaded dog catchers and the police and has been on the news - with his eyes glued on Maddie . I wanted to scream, but I calmly called "Maddie! Come!" and she spun around and came.

Here's a suggestion -- most people over use the word come and dogs learn to ignore it. Some people use different words like 'cookie', or a friend of mine says 'click' (i have no idea where that came from lol) so they don't over use it and the dog knows it means to come immeadiatly.
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Old 02-01-2004, 02:24 AM
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Why not? They're not different!....Or are they? My dog doesn't really listen to my family but that doesnt mean his breed cant be trained!
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:13 AM
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Thank you for your replies, I will attempt some of them with him, But I have tried all sorts of treats to tempt him with and I am reluctant to have him permanently restrained and a lead, as he needs an excess amount of excercise and needs to be able to run free.
At the moment I am retreiving him by sending my Border Collie to herd him back to me.
I should note that when there are no other dogs about he is a lot better at returning although still reluctant.
Thank you once again for your interest and suggestions
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:24 AM
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I LOVE the Border Collie idea! It's wonderful. Caspian gets his run, and your Border gets to work. All too often Border Collies don't get the chance and it's so sad. They love to work so very much.

Caspian's still young, and as long as you are consistent he'll get better and better about returning quickly as he grows up and becomes more mature. I'm impressed that the Border Collie is so quick! I knew they were fast, but that's amazing! Do you participate in agility events with him? Or her? What's the name?
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:05 PM
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His name is Merlyn and we were hoping to enroll him in agility very soon but he's still a tad too young (only 8 months).
He issn't any where near as fast as Caspian but he tries and sometimes manages to cut him off and drive him back to me, and if that fails he gets Caspian to chase him and leads him back to me.
He really is a cleaver lil pup.
I'm hoping to have some photos of him on the site soon.
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Old 02-02-2004, 06:48 PM
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It will be fun for you to see if Caspian will follow Merlyn through his agility practices! I'd love to see a Saluki or one of the other large sight hounds running agility. Can you imagine an Irish Wolfhound on the course? Or even a Borzoi? It would have a hard time in the tunnel, though. Keep us posted and keep your camera handy! I hope you have a videocamera. Your pups will be making memories you'll want to watch over and over. I'm sitting here laughing to myself thinking about a dog like Caspian whizzing through all the obstacles - kind of a mental Roadrunner type cartoon going on in my head! Truly a demented daydream!
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Old 02-05-2004, 11:41 AM
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I doubt that that will ever happen. You see while he is quite happy to obey a command such as sit to receive a treat, or even to run around a field in circles.
I cannot see him ever being motivated to jump through hoops on command.
Although It would be lovely if he did.
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