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Old 04-27-2014, 10:12 AM
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Just an FYI since I've seen this around this forum and my other a bit recently. Mini aussies have been accepted into the AKC Foundation stock service program under a new name- the Miniature American Shepherd.

Breed club here: http://www.mascusa.org/
https://www.akc.org/breeds/miniature...herd/index.cfm

The breed standard is 13-18" and 20-40 lbs. The reason for the name change is because the ASCA does not accept a size variant in their breed and the AKC no longer accepts varieties for previously accepted breeds. So the MASCUSA decided to set off to make their dogs their own breed, known as the Miniature American shepherd. MASCUSA studbooks close in Dec 2014. As of right now you can transfer dogs registered as aussies to MAS.

There is a breed club that disagrees with minis becoming their own breed separate from aussies and thus they have chosen to NOT change their dogs' names and not register with the AKC FSS program. They view their dogs as a size variety of the aussie. That breed club is this one: http://mascaonline.com/

These are separate from the 'toy aussies' completely. I know nothing about these dogs but their club is here: http://whoward.homestead.com/
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Old 04-27-2014, 12:40 PM
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:58 PM
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I fully agree with the Mini American Shepherd bit(I have zero problems with new breeds if they own up to it), but not the sticking to mini Aussie bit. I'd also love to own a Mini American one day.... BUT I know they currently have a major crapshoot on personalities(toys even more so). In the beginning they were so focused on size the temperment kinda flew out the window. I think it will be interesting to see how the Mini American develops, hopefully they wil start focusing more on temperment now. I have met some really great ones... But I've also met a lot of not-so-great ones. LOL.
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I was super confused for a while but I think I get it now. The Mini American Shepherd is a definite possibility for me. I, for one, am glad for the smaller version as an option, as size has been a huge halt in me adding a herder. But I still can't decide between 3 breeds anyway buuutt MAS is high up there.

Thanks for the info. I've found a few breeders I really like.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:38 PM
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I'm cool with this. I was really looking into mini Aussies before we got Lucy (sooo... probably 9 years ago?!) and seem to recall getting some flack for that on here! I've liked the ones that I've met.
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I'm cool with this. I was really looking into mini Aussies before we got Lucy (sooo... probably 9 years ago?!) and seem to recall getting some flack for that on here! I've liked the ones that I've met.
I used to get flack for almost everything I did on here and now it's all stuff that's acceptable so you're not the only one!

The "mini Aussies" I've met have been extremely neurotic barky little dogs but maybe it's because they're like Aussies in temperament but don't get the exercise they need because they're smaller and the owners think they can get away with less? Or maybe just a bad line. Super cute dogs though!!
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If I ever end up with a smaller purebred dog, Mini American Shepherds are on the (very) short list! I definitely support their breeding.
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Old 04-28-2014, 06:14 AM
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Personally the minis I've met have fallen right along the aussie spectrum of temperament. I've met a few shy/spooky ones for sure but also about half the aussies I've met are pretty soft and shy. Overall they've been realy similar in temperament. The toys I've met (only a couple well bred ones to be fair) have been nice dogs but quite different in looks and temperament than the minis.

I do think the name is kind of weird.... they were calling them north american shepherds for a while but I don't know why the switch to miniature american instead...
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