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Old 12-04-2013, 05:56 PM
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Default 4health compared to Chicken Soup for the Puppy Lover's Soul?

Alright need to know, comparing 4health Puppy food to Chicken Soup for the Puppy Lover's Soul Large Breed which one is better?

4health:
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Lamb, lamb meal, egg product, rice, millet, cracked pearled barley, pea protein, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), potatoes, oatmeal, tomato pomace, ocean fish meal, flaxseed, natural flavor, salmon oil (source of DHA), potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, dried kelp, carrots, peas, apples, tomatoes, blueberries, spinach, dried skim milk, cranberries, rosemary extract, parsley flake, yucca schidigera extract, L-Carnitine, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.
Guaranteed Analysis:
Crude Protein 27.0% (min.), Crude Fat 15.0% (min.), Crude Fiber 3.0% (max.), Moisture 10.0% (max.), Calcium 1.2% (min.), Phosphorus 1.2% (max.), Phosphorus 1.0% (min.), Zinc 150 mg/kg (min.), Selenium 0.4 mg/kg (min.), Vitamin E 150 IU/kg (min.), L-Carnitine* 30 mg/kg (min.), Omega-6 Fatty Acids* 2.2% (min.), Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% (min.), DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid)* 0.05% (min.),
*Not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO dog food nutrient profile.
Caloric Content:
3,656 kcal/kg (342 kcal/cup) Calculated Metabolizable Energy

CSFPLS:
Protein: 27% Fat: 13%
Calories: 3,601 kcal/kg (337 kcal/cup) Calculated ME
Available in 6 lb, 18 lb and 35 lb bags.

Ingredients

Chicken, turkey, chicken meal, turkey meal, cracked pearled barley, whole grain brown rice, white rice, oatmeal, millet, potato protein, egg product, tomato pomace, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), duck, salmon, flaxseed, natural chicken flavor, ocean fish meal, salmon oil (source of DHA), potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, dried kelp, carrots, peas, apples, tomatoes, blueberries, spinach, dried skim milk, cranberries, rosemary extract, parsley flake, yucca schidigera extract, L-Carnitine, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

I'm liking 4health's use of Lamb instead of poultry and it's higher fat and calorie count. My Lab puppy is showing some signs of intolerance to chicken. He's itching and loose poops on his current food (Puppy Chow, I know terrible food but I was broke and needed some food )

They're both around the same price range and won't break my wallet either.

Thoughts?
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:24 PM
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I tried 4health back when it first came out and both Kim and Webster got itchy. Was just talking to some folks at a trial recently and when 4health came up, everyone there had dogs that got super itchy on it, even ones like Webster that had shown no previous food allergies.

Don't know why, just my 2.
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:29 PM
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I tried 4health back when it first came out and both Kim and Webster got itchy. Was just talking to some folks at a trial recently and when 4health came up, everyone there had dogs that got super itchy on it, even ones like Webster that had shown no previous food allergies.

Don't know why, just my 2.
Hmmmmm, that is weird. I'm just really looking hard at these two foods because they are better quality without breaking my purse either. I can get both locally and I'm favoring the 4health more for the lamb in it.
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I feed 4Health to my dogs and I love it. No issues. I'm currently feeding a mixture of the Salmon and Potato (grain inclusive) and the Turkey and Potato (grain free and ALS). They've done extremely well on the food. And here, at least, it is cheaper to buy 4Health than the Chicken Soup foods (although I've fed Chicken Soup to my past dogs, and they did well on it, too.).
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I feed 4Health to my dogs and I love it. No issues. I'm currently feeding a mixture of the Salmon and Potato (grain inclusive) and the Turkey and Potato (grain free and ALS). They've done extremely well on the food. And here, at least, it is cheaper to buy 4Health than the Chicken Soup foods (although I've fed Chicken Soup to my past dogs, and they did well on it, too.).
It's the same price here and but with the 4health I can get smaller bags and can't with Chicken Soup.
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Goose and Aesop were both a bit itchy on the 4health. The others were fine. I'm thinking it was perhaps the barley, since otherwise the ingredients were pretty similar to what they were eating before.

I might give the grain free a go, though, and see if we have better luck
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Over 25% is plenty of protein. A raw meat diet doesn't have any more than that....
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Probably still too early to tell, but how is Outlaw doing on the food? I'm considering adding in Diamond Naturals large breed puppy food (essentially the exact same as 4Healths puppy food) to the food mixture he's getting, in the hopes of switching him over full time if he does well on it.
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Probably still too early to tell, but how is Outlaw doing on the food? I'm considering adding in Diamond Naturals large breed puppy food (essentially the exact same as 4Healths puppy food) to the food mixture he's getting, in the hopes of switching him over full time if he does well on it.
He loves in just 3 days of eating it he's stopped sracthing and his poops have gotten more solid.
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4Health GF is in my dog's rotation. They've done well one it. My parents fed it, too (a grain-inclusive variety) when they had a dog. My dogs ate the brand new bag that was leftover from my parents' dog, and they did fine on it, too.
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