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Old 05-01-2013, 05:11 PM
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Default Anyone else still following "Obie" the Dachshund?

Today he went home after having skin reduction surgery. I just can not get over the amazing transformation though, he's lost 40lbs ! After having to deal with a similar but not nearly as dramatic situation in my own life, I'm so happy to see him doing so well. Anyone else still following his story?

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Old 05-01-2013, 05:23 PM
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HOLY CRAP! He's almost normal sized! I may not agree with 100% of what they do, but you can't deny that what they're doing is working.
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Old 05-01-2013, 05:31 PM
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I'd like to know who owns/owned that dog and why the owner or former owner isn't being hauled in for animal cruelty in the same way that someone would be if the dog had been emaciated.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:03 PM
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I'd like to know who owns/owned that dog and why the owner or former owner isn't being hauled in for animal cruelty in the same way that someone would be if the dog had been emaciated.
I'm pretty sure the former owner is dead, I think it was an elderly person that passed away (have you noticed old people tend to have FAT dogs?)


ETA: Okay, maybe I was wrong, and they're not dead. Or maybe they are by now. But I agree with you that it's just as bad as starving a dog.

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Our story began when a relative of this boys family stepped in and asked for help. Aging owners with failing health were simply loving him with food. They just couldn't say "no" to those big brown eyes. Through many tears, the owners relinquished him. It is very frustrating and sad but I am thrilled to be able to help him move on with his new life.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:26 PM
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If they relinquished him, the shelter/AC probably can't press charges. Often shelters/AC will offer to take the dog with no charges if the owners surrender the animal on their own.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:38 PM
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Amazing! Does anyone have the number stats?

I may be a softy but I wouldn't press charges on an old person who is "killing with kindness".
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I don't know, honestly, why all people do it but my own mother over feeds to show affection. Shamoo came from a person who loved her and overfed, it's sad but I still don't see it as a punishable offensive in the same way that not feeding is. I think the motives of not feeding go hand in hand with plain lack of empathy, forgetfulness, laziness, distain, or the like; while overfeeding never seems to come from anything but an unhealthy way of showing ones affection.

I guess I can move on more easily from fat dogs than I can from bone thin. In my experience being starved messes with the dogs behaviors as well, often sending them to a panicked and dangerous place, while being overfed merely dulls them.

I'm not trying to say its okay to have obese dogs, I just can't get my blood flowing with rage when I see one, usually I dance around it carefully and try to educate while understanding it is unlikely these people did this as a form of punishment.

I have a few at work now for weight loss. One is a pug whom the owner didn't know it was fat until she went to a pug play group and her dog couldn't keep up and looked like a blimp comparatively. She immediately went to the vet, got a special diet, and brought her to us twice a week at 30/day to start exercising her more than she can. She loves the dog very much, she just didn't understand the fat pugs you see in magazines are as unhealthy as the bone rail models you see in high fashion.

I truly haven't any people who starve dogs out of affection, so maybe that sways my judgement but it tells me that for the most part it's easier (ime) to help those with obese dogs because the owners truly do love them they're just severely uneducated on what constitutes health.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:16 AM
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I don't know, honestly, why all people do it but my own mother over feeds to show affection. Shamoo came from a person who loved her and overfed, it's sad but I still don't see it as a punishable offensive in the same way that not feeding is. I think the motives of not feeding go hand in hand with plain lack of empathy, forgetfulness, laziness, distain, or the like; while overfeeding never seems to come from anything but an unhealthy way of showing ones affection.

I guess I can move on more easily from fat dogs than I can from bone thin. In my experience being starved messes with the dogs behaviors as well, often sending them to a panicked and dangerous place, while being overfed merely dulls them.

I'm not trying to say its okay to have obese dogs, I just can't get my blood flowing with rage when I see one, usually I dance around it carefully and try to educate while understanding it is unlikely these people did this as a form of punishment.

I have a few at work now for weight loss. One is a pug whom the owner didn't know it was fat until she went to a pug play group and her dog couldn't keep up and looked like a blimp comparatively. She immediately went to the vet, got a special diet, and brought her to us twice a week at 30/day to start exercising her more than she can. She loves the dog very much, she just didn't understand the fat pugs you see in magazines are as unhealthy as the bone rail models you see in high fashion.

I truly haven't any people who starve dogs out of affection, so maybe that sways my judgement but it tells me that for the most part it's easier (ime) to help those with obese dogs because the owners truly do love them they're just severely uneducated on what constitutes health.
I agree with this.

However.... THAT DOG WAS HUGE! They said it was like 50 lbs over weight? For a total of 75-80 lbs? It's one thing to have a fat pug or a chubby lab.. give or take... 20 lbs. But this dog was to the point where it couldn't even walk. If we compare that dog to a human child, the parents would most certainly be in trouble for having a 300 lb kid. (Didn't do the math, so I'm not sure of the actual comparison.)

My grandfather's dog is/was over weight by about 20 lbs. She has been losing weight, but even he KNEW she was fat. Although, I think I read that the people just 'couldn't resist', so I'm sure they knew Obie was fat too. I just think that amount of weight is a larger problem than the dog solely being overweight.
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I truly haven't any people who starve dogs out of affection, so maybe that sways my judgement but it tells me that for the most part it's easier (ime) to help those with obese dogs because the owners truly do love them they're just severely uneducated on what constitutes health.
That kind of boils it down for me, too. If an owner is simply uneducated but willing to change, I'm not going to reach for my torch and pitchfork. And people are far more likely to fall into that category with obese pets than starved pets.

Although I've heard the local humane investigator say he's seen it happen where people just didn't understand how much food a dog/ cat/ horse needs and didn't understand why they weren't gaining weight; and in those cases the people do receive education and a follow up visit instead of immediately taking the animal.

IME in a LOT of these obese animals (or some other breakdown in care) with elderly owners are related to memory problems, if not outright dementia. It's very sad to see people want to do the right thing but not remember that they already fed the dog that day or whether or not they gave medication. You can try to help with chore charts, pill boxes, check off sheets, stuff like that but at the end of the day people still have to use them.
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I'm pretty sure that is what happened to Shamoo, she weighed just over 75 lbs when we got her and at her optimal she was 40 lbs, she's now a bit overweight again at 42 lbs but largely it has to do with the fact she cannot handle much exercise and needs to subside on a sad 3/4 cup twice a day, to be honest i cant bring myself to be militant with her diet at this age anyway.

Her previous owner went into the hospital and left her with a petsitter, the story was slightly jumbled and either the owner died or went into hospice but no family wanted her nor did they want to continue her petsitting bills. The pet sitter placed her with me and my intentions of cutting some weight and seeing if I could find a retirement home for her. The home I found was my parents and they tend to free feed unless bothered by me when I lived there as well as give countless scraps and chewies because they can't resist the cute puppy eyes. As a result of my dad getting sick I took Shamoo back and she lost the rest.

My parents have three dogs and one is fat, like stupid fat, and I do harass them but in the end I know they're weak to his begging. The other two are very lean, one is even skinny, and they're free fed as well. This dichotomy makes it that much harder for the average dog owner to understand the two skinnies won't die on restricted diets while the fatty will blossom.

I'm not excusing what happened to this dachshund, not at all because its a tragedy, but I do empathize with the situation. I really don't think they set out to hurt their dog and I do worry that once he stopped walking they either didn't know what to do or they really are losing their minds and either scenario, IMO, is very sad.
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