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Old 03-09-2013, 09:09 PM
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Do any of you food store folks carry Verus?

http://www.veruspetfoods.com/

Auggie's breeder's husband and I have had multiple discussions about Payton's inability to gain weight without getting the runs and switching to Verus came up, because it's a far more simple formula and it also happens to be higher calorie per cup, so we're not sure if that might work. He kicked all the P&G foods out of his store so he was glad to get this in more or less to replace Cali Naturals, which I LOVED Cali Naturals for the KISS ingredient list... so I'm really tempted to switch all my guys to it. It's not grain free but I don't think Pay has an issue with grains (he was on a grain-inclusive food at his breeder's but on TOTW ever since coming home with me); Pepper only has an issue with corn and Auggie has no grain problems so I think we would be okay...

Anybody have input on Verus as a brand? It's a small company - the sample bags are clear poly bags with a simple printed sticker on it - so I'm not sure if they're in any of the places you guys are in...
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Are you looking for samples, or just input on the food itself? The cats are going through a bag of it right now. Rumor ate a bag or two when she was younger, and my old Doberman seemed to do well on it when he tried it. It's made in Maryland, so it's extremely cheap here.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:00 PM
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Input. I have sample bags.
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I've never seen it outside of Maryland, so I'm probably the only one here who has tried it. I think it's okay. Duke switched between California Natural and Verus. His stomach was a bit sensitive, and he did well on them. Rumor has an iron stomach, so I don't know if the fact that she did fine on it should even count. The cats just started a bag along with some of their canned food, so we'll see how they do. There are other foods I'd prefer, but I'd choose it over Blue Buffalo, California Natural, Innova... Duke did great on it, where on other foods he'd have digestive issues and look gross. Rumor I think does better on other foods, but she did fine on it. I don't think I've fed it to her in probably five years, though. And for Duke it would be at least ten years ago. Maybe none of my input is particularly valid since it's been so long, lol.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:34 PM
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It's helpful that you've tried it at all LOL! I was afraid nobody else had ever heard of it.

I may have to just give it a shot. The easy suggestion was to feed Payton green beans to increase his fiber and see if that doesn't help hold his poos together, so I've been trying that... he is the ONLY one of my dogs who will not eat green beans! He'll snuffle around them in the bowl and leave them, eating maybe a few because it's in his way to get to food but definitely not eating them all. I've been letting Auggie eat them after Payton says he's done. =P
I've increased his TOTW again anyway but I'm expecting within a few days he'll have loose poops again; if he does I think I'm going to just pick up some Verus and try that, hoping the fact that it's more simple will help him digest it better and maybe actually gain some weight. x_x
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I would definitely give the Verus a try. Duke had a really sensitive stomach, and loose poops and vomiting were fairly common. He didn't have either of those while on the Verus. Rumor can keep down and digest buffalo chicken wraps and almonds after being dosed with hydrogen peroxide. Her results on Verus count for nothing. She's weird.
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Do all of your dogs have to be on the same food? If not, I would see if you can get your hands on a small bag of Canine Caviar. Nothing simpler on the market and the probiotic they use is ridiculously amazing. I joke with customers that it's impossible for the dog to have loose stool because of the probiotic in it.

It's not cheap, but if you can put just Pay on it, might be worth it. I can't imagine living with constant loose stools, that sucks :/
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Are you looking for samples, or just input on the food itself? The cats are going through a bag of it right now. Rumor ate a bag or two when she was younger, and my old Doberman seemed to do well on it when he tried it. It's made in Maryland, so it's extremely cheap here.

Hello RedHotDobe,
I realize this is a dog forum, but I’d like to comment on VéRUS cat kibble which you mentioned you are feeding and is pretty bad stuff.

Cats must be fed either raw or a grain-free canned food diet because of the moisture content. Kibble has about 10% and raw and canned foods 75% moisture. If fed only kibble, there’s a huge chance of cats dying prematurely from kidney disease and CRF (Chronic Renal Failure), which doesn’t even exist in the wild. Cats are 600% more prone to these killers than dogs.

Plus, feline diabetes is waiting around the corner with these types of ingredients (which also doesn’t exist in the wild).
The ingredients in VéRUS cat kibble are horrible. Cats are obligate carnivores and need a grain-free, meat diet to thrive.

Here are the inappropriate ingredients in this stuff:
Ground Brown Rice, Corn Gluten Meal, Ground Oats, Dried Beet Pulp, Dried Egg Product, Salt.

You’ll never find these ingredients in high-quality pet foods... these ingredients are certainly not “all natural, holistic” in a cat’s natural diet... and when you see Corn Gluten Meal or any corn derivatives in pet foods, it’s time to run away.

RedHotBabe sure is a looker....
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:12 PM
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Do any of you food store folks carry Verus?

http://www.veruspetfoods.com/

Auggie's breeder's husband and I have had multiple discussions about Payton's inability to gain weight without getting the runs and switching to Verus came up, because it's a far more simple formula and it also happens to be higher calorie per cup, so we're not sure if that might work. He kicked all the P&G foods out of his store so he was glad to get this in more or less to replace Cali Naturals, which I LOVED Cali Naturals for the KISS ingredient list... so I'm really tempted to switch all my guys to it. It's not grain free but I don't think Pay has an issue with grains (he was on a grain-inclusive food at his breeder's but on TOTW ever since coming home with me); Pepper only has an issue with corn and Auggie has no grain problems so I think we would be okay...

Anybody have input on Verus as a brand? It's a small company - the sample bags are clear poly bags with a simple printed sticker on it - so I'm not sure if they're in any of the places you guys are in...
Hello Beanie,
Just curious, why would anyone feed their cats/dogs VéRUS kibble products?
Their kibble contains huge amounts of grains & starches with very, very minimal meat, using cheap grains instead of much more expensive meat as a protein source.

The following dog formulas contain only one meat source and three of the first four ingredients are either grains or starches!:
VéRUS Adult Maintenance Lamb Meal, Oats And Brown Rice
VéRUS Advanced Opticoat Menhaden Fish Meal And Potato
VéRUS Adult Maintenance Lamb Meal, Oats And Brown Rice

Even worse, the VéRUS Weight Management Brown Rice, Lamb Meal And Oats Formula has only one meat source with four of the first five ingredients being grains, including the first two... not good...

With the huge amounts of grains and starches (sugar) in their kibble products, it’s only a matter of time before dogs have some potentially very serious health problems.

Dogs have zero need for carbohydrates but kibble must have some starch to use as a binder.
Good grain-free kibble has about 25% carbs, none from grains.
VéRUS gets almost all of their carbs from grains (which must be avoided) and it looks like their kibble is at least 45% carbohydrates!
If feeding VéRUS, make sure it’s the canned, grain free (canned is much better for the health of cats/dogs because of the high moisture content).

VéRUS cat kibble is really bad, I’ll comment on it in RedHotDobe’s post, who’s using it.

The VéRUS motto is “All natural, holistic pet foods... too bad there’s still no regulations on what that really means...
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Old 04-01-2013, 04:25 PM
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Hello Roger,
Just curious, but why should I give a **** what you have to say?

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