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Old 03-07-2013, 09:00 PM
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Exclamation Quick help with raw for Addie please

I have started transitioning Addie from Z/D to Nature's Variety venison raw. She had been doing well, but threw up both her meals today. I am almost out of kibble, so I need to make a decision whether to try a different protein raw, or buy another bag of Z/D. What do y'all think? I was really hoping this would work for her
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:02 PM
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Does she have a history of stomach issues? What did she produce when she vomited, bile or undigested food?
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:09 PM
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Did she re-eat it? Was she acting like she was sick? Sometimes the food just comes back up especially when they are getting used to it
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Undigested food, she acted scared like she was upset. But since we're in the house I of course scooped her up really quick and took her outside. So that could be why she acts upset, she didn't get a chance to eat it- but she probably would...
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She hasn't had stomach issues except with chicken kibble as a puppy, and when she was on very strong antibiotics.
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She hasn't had stomach issues except with chicken kibble as a puppy, and when she was on very strong antibiotics.
Ok, cool! Knowing that, if she were my dog, I would definitely keep trying the raw. I would put her on a probiotic, and maybe even a digestive enzyme, if she continues to have digestive issues.
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Did she re-eat it? Was she acting like she was sick? Sometimes the food just comes back up especially when they are getting used to it
Yeah I agree! My roommate's dog had a rough time switching over at first and would regurgitate and re-eat some of his meals. And IME tossing up some bile the morning after eating raw is not uncommon in dogs that are transitioning.

If she wasn't put off and seemed normal after vomiting, I would persist with the raw.

Oh, and, you might consider a probiotic, for some dogs it can really help. My Mal had some pretty nasty diarrhea when I first got her and plain yogurt with her meals has made all the difference. If she doesn't handle dairy well, there are powdered probiotics as well.
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I have started transitioning Addie from Z/D to Nature's Variety venison raw. She had been doing well, but threw up both her meals today. I am almost out of kibble, so I need to make a decision whether to try a different protein raw, or buy another bag of Z/D. What do y'all think? I was really hoping this would work for her
Hello mkj2013,

I hope the Z/D you're referring to isn't Hill's Prescription which is really hideous stuff and really bad for your dog, contains soybean oil, BHT, powdered cellulose, glyceryl monostearate... and hydrolyzed chicken liver and chicken are anyone's guess...

Soybean oil is a major source of pet allergies and a host of other very serious problems in cats and dogs. Soy is estrogenic and wreaks havoc on your petís endocrine system.

Glyceryl monostearate is an emulsifier (breaks down fats), lethal to lab rats, still under investigation by FDA. Widely used in cosmetic, medicine and plastic processing industries. Can contain up to 200 ppm butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) which is a known carcinogen!

BHA is also a known carcinogen! Along with BHT, both are are used to stabilize the food and preserve the fat it contains.
These ingredients continue to be used in pet foods in spite of the fact that they are linked to cancer, immune system problems and loss of hair and liver damage.

Powdered cellulose is a cheap filler/source of fiber. In other words, cardboard and sawdust. Causes irritable bowel problems, very harsh on digestive tract.

All of Hill's products are really bad and most often sold by veterinarians...!

Nature's Variety venison raw and the rest of nature Variety products are GREAT... low carbs, species-appropriate, no fillers, 95% meat, exact opposite of the toxic mess from Hill's. Stay on this stuff and don't worry about serving at room temperature, dog's prefer it, like eating an animal in the wild.
Roger Biduk.
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Thumbs up Hills's Prescription Z/D... throw it away...

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I have started transitioning Addie from Z/D to Nature's Variety venison raw. She had been doing well, but threw up both her meals today. I am almost out of kibble, so I need to make a decision whether to try a different protein raw, or buy another bag of Z/D. What do y'all think? I was really hoping this would work for her
Hello mkj2013,

I hope the Z/D you're referring to isn't Hill's Prescription which is really hideous stuff and really bad for your dog, contains soybean oil, BHT, powdered cellulose, glyceryl monostearate... and hydrolyzed chicken liver and chicken are anyone's guess...

Soybean oil is a major source of pet allergies and a host of other very serious problems in cats and dogs. Soy is estrogenic and wreaks havoc on your petís endocrine system.

Glyceryl monostearate is an emulsifier (breaks down fats), lethal to lab rats, still under investigation by FDA. Widely used in cosmetic, medicine and plastic processing industries. Can contain up to 200 ppm butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) which is a known carcinogen!

BHA is also a known carcinogen! Along with BHT, both are are used to stabilize the food and preserve the fat it contains.
These ingredients continue to be used in pet foods in spite of the fact that they are linked to cancer, immune system problems and loss of hair and liver damage.

Powdered cellulose is a cheap filler/source of fiber. In other words, cardboard and sawdust. Causes irritable bowel problems, very harsh on digestive tract.

All of Hill's products are really bad and most often sold by veterinarians...!

Nature's Variety venison raw and the rest of nature Variety products are GREAT... low carbs, species-appropriate, no fillers, 95% meat, exact opposite of the toxic mess from Hill's. Stay on this stuff and don't worry about serving at room temperature, dog's prefer it, like eating an animal in the wild.
Roger Biduk
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Hello mkj2013,

I hope the Z/D you're referring to isn't Hill's Prescription which is really hideous stuff and really bad for your dog, contains soybean oil, BHT, powdered cellulose, glyceryl monostearate... and hydrolyzed chicken liver and chicken are anyone's guess...

Soybean oil is a major source of pet allergies and a host of other very serious problems in cats and dogs. Soy is estrogenic and wreaks havoc on your petís endocrine system.

Glyceryl monostearate is an emulsifier (breaks down fats), lethal to lab rats, still under investigation by FDA. Widely used in cosmetic, medicine and plastic processing industries. Can contain up to 200 ppm butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) which is a known carcinogen!

BHA is also a known carcinogen! Along with BHT, both are are used to stabilize the food and preserve the fat it contains.
These ingredients continue to be used in pet foods in spite of the fact that they are linked to cancer, immune system problems and loss of hair and liver damage.

Powdered cellulose is a cheap filler/source of fiber. In other words, cardboard and sawdust. Causes irritable bowel problems, very harsh on digestive tract.

All of Hill's products are really bad and most often sold by veterinarians...!

Nature's Variety venison raw and the rest of nature Variety products are GREAT... low carbs, species-appropriate, no fillers, 95% meat, exact opposite of the toxic mess from Hill's. Stay on this stuff and don't worry about serving at room temperature, dog's prefer it, like eating an animal in the wild.
Roger Biduk



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