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Old 01-29-2013, 09:51 PM
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http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/rabies-miasm-dogs/

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Have you have ever wondered if you should take your dog to an animal psychiatrist or behaviorist because she snaps at imaginary flies, chases shadows, or has an overly strong prey drive?

When your dog is in his crate, does he demolish his blankets so thoroughly that you are considering hiring him out as a document shredder? Does your dog frantically try to escape from your yard or home and resist capture? Is he aggressive, overreactive or overly sensitive to noise? Does he get hysterical during thunder storms? Hump everything in sight? Or suffer from a seizure disorder?

Has any illness or change in behavior occurred within days to weeks after a rabies vaccination? For example, your otherwise bold and playful puppy developed irrational fears days after his vet visit.

Have you worked on treating a stubborn, chronic condition such as a goopy ear or constant itching for months and finally have resolution only to have it flare up even worse after a rabies vaccine?

Your lovely, sweet dog had an unprovoked attack by another dog at the dog park. Other than skin wounds, your dog seems to be alright. Except now she is acting out in an aggressive manner that she’s never exhibited before. Post trauma? Possibly…..

All of the above behaviors and symptoms could be part of the rabies miasm, acquired from a rabies vaccine or even the bite of another vaccinated animal.

What about the unvaccinated puppy who is overly timid, overly aggressive, or hyperactive. She could also be suffering from inherited rabies miasm.

Other symptoms of the rabies miasm include any obsessive-compulsive behavior, difficulty swallowing, excessive gulping, drooling or sneezing, fear or obsessive desire for water or shiny objects, excessive vocalization, overreaction to normal stimuli, or tremors: anything that’s above and beyond what we would ex.pect as normal behavior. What’s similar in the animals affected at the emotional level is the lack of impulse control and the often extreme, erratic and obsessive nature of the behaviors.

One material explanation for all of these symptoms and behaviors is the strong evidence that the rabies vaccine can actually cause a low grade inflammation in the brain.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:40 AM
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Oh geez.....

To the nutjobs that wrote this: Here's your sign.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:48 AM
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I have heard something that before, from someone on the extreme holistic side of things (and by extreme, I mean almost radical).

And I still ask: scientific evidence, please?
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:57 AM
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vaccinosis isnt some crackpot made up thing. overvaccinating, or in some instances any vaccines at all, are HORRIBLY damaging to the body and brain and in most cases do way more harm than they could possibly protect.
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I've never heard anything of this before, but a low grade inflammation that persists wouldn't surprise me. It's possible with almost every other form of vaccination, why not rabies, one of the more dangerous ones out there in terms of reactions . Human or animal.

Somebody might be trying to attribute much more to it than is probably realistic, but the basic premise isn't nutty at all.
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Yes, this is very real. Common, no, but real.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:16 AM
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vaccinosis isnt some crackpot made up thing. overvaccinating, or in some instances any vaccines at all, are HORRIBLY damaging to the body and brain and in most cases do way more harm than they could possibly protect.
What are you basing this on?

There is no doubt in my mind that for some individuals, vaccination can have harmful side effects. Having said that: Correlation is not causation, and the plural of anecdote is not data.

Being more afraid of vaccines than the diseases they protect against is one of the luxuries of living in a world where vaccination has been the norm for decades. Once the pendulum swings far enough back that we start seeing serious disease outbreaks, it will start swinging back the other way, I'm sure.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:25 AM
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This is something that concerns me, as I currently have a young puppy in my household. What these don't address is when is it safe to have him out and about?

I'm followed Dr. Dodds limited vaccine schedule somewhat, and Rabies is all that's left, aside from the optional vaccination at 16 to 18 weeks. Rabies is a concern in my area, we've had a few rabid skunks/opossums/coyotes in the past few years. Parvo is also a big deal here.

Vaccinating isn't always safe, but neither is NOT vaccinating at all. Where's the happy medium?
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What are you basing this on?

There is no doubt in my mind that for some individuals, vaccination can have harmful side effects. Having said that: Correlation is not causation, and the plural of anecdote is not data.

Being more afraid of vaccines than the diseases they protect against is one of the luxuries of living in a world where vaccination has been the norm for decades. Once the pendulum swings far enough back that we start seeing serious disease outbreaks, it will start swinging back the other way, I'm sure.
This.
I do limited vaccines on my dog. Simply because quite a few (bordatella for example) is for a disease which isn't fatal and or the vaccination isn't that effective anyway.

But to risk my dog getting parvo? nipping someone and being put down to test for rabies?
No way.

I live in a city full of loving pet owners, which is awesome. But far too many aren't vaccinating and when outbreaks do happen in the city, they hit everyone HARD. Dog owners around here tend to frequent the same parks/dog "areas"..which is a recipe for disaster. All it takes is one sick dog.
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Stan got his rabies vaccine when he was 3-4 months old. Then he got bigger!! Is that a side effect, too?
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