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Old 11-06-2012, 01:48 PM
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How do you go about training it? I've got some ideas, but I was wondering if someone else has something better.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:02 PM
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I did a lot of perch work, a lot of hind end awareness and a lot of learning to stay stuck to my side. And since it's fun I do it all the time

But pretty much when I started I just did a lot of perch work and rewarding for hind end movement in the correct direction.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:04 PM
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Second the perch work!
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That's what I was thinking we'd do--any helpful videos or anything you'd like to recommend? :]
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That's what I was thinking we'd do--any helpful videos or anything you'd like to recommend? :]
All I have are some ones I've taken.

I started an alone pivot with Didgie and Traveler. Really gets that body movement down with the muscle memory without them trying to remember where to be in relation to you. Which I like

Didgie Pivot Alone

Traveler Pivot Alone

Didgie Pivot with Me

And then I think this is the best video (the first part of it anyways) of what I do with Traveler that I have. Pretty much I would just do this in small spaces a lot. It's what I almost always do to practice heeling, just do sidesteps, backwards and pivoting.

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:11 PM
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Perch work + making sure your dog understands moving backward and laterally while in heel. In a true left pivot the human is staying in place and "turning on a dinner plate" so the dog is not only pivoting but also backing in an arch to stay in position.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:23 PM
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Perch work + making sure your dog understands moving backward and laterally while in heel. In a true left pivot the human is staying in place and "turning on a dinner plate" so the dog is not only pivoting but also backing in an arch to stay in position.
Lol, I know what a pivot is. I just wanted to have a game plan before I started working on it. :]
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Lol, I know what a pivot is. I just wanted to have a game plan before I started working on it. :]
Never doubted you did, my point was just that there is more to it than a perch-style butt spin an to make sure your dog understands each element before putting them together.
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Never doubted you did, my point was just that there is more to it than a perch-style butt spin an to make sure your dog understands each element before putting them together.
Ah yes--that does make sense. :]
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I started with perch as well (I lured, no shaping), these are just my own videos...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omYwUYiapII (at 1:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9ztOJ-LJ0k

After he learned how to lure and flip on the perch, I moved to the ground (he is very young here so it's just for fun), at about 1:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7_h6v3Tkic

Starting to ask for it on verbal (I start him at an angle, not perpendicular to me) by the wall to help guide him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPZaXo44-A4

The flip is one of his favorite maneuvers, but I don't have any recent vids of it...this is closer to what it looks like now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtNWgGa7vJo

Although this shows his understanding of the left turn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWdgptBOA4
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