Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dogs - General Dog Chat


View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice another dog for its organs?
Yes, I would sacrifice any dog I had to 1 3.33%
Yes, but only from a high kill shelter 1 3.33%
Yes, but only a dog that I knew 100% would die anyways 15 50.00%
Not sure what I'd do 2 6.67%
No, I personally wouldn't 4 13.33%
No, it's wrong to do so 4 13.33%
Souvlaki and Greek salad 1 3.33%
Haggis 2 6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-13-2012, 12:36 AM
Xandra's Avatar
Xandra Xandra is online now
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,785
Default Hypothetical Moral Dilemma!! sacrificing a shelter dog for its organs

Interesting moral dilemma question from reddit (not sure if I should link or not..?)

If your dog needed a new organ and you had the dinero for the operation, would you sacrifice another dog and harvest its organs to save yours?

If you wouldn't, is that just your personal preference or do you believe it's wrong? (ie do you believe no one should do that)

I shall make it a poll...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-13-2012, 12:43 AM
Romy's Avatar
Romy Romy is offline
Taxiderpy
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 9,932
Default

I guess if an otherwise healthy dog had to be euthanized for behavior problems or lack of room, I don't see anything wrong with harvesting usable tissue for medical purposes.

That being said, you have to wonder what conditions euthanasia would have to take place in for the tissue to be useful. I don't think lethal injection would be good for that, so whatever it is would still have be a humane method.

I do not agree with euthanizing a dog specifically FOR its organs however. Just that if a dog is going to die anyway for another reason, I wouldn't have any moral problem with tissue harvest.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-13-2012, 12:49 AM
Equinox's Avatar
Equinox Equinox is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,526
Default

Basically what Romy said. If the animal absolutely was to be euthanized (and considering just how many animals are euthanized daily), I am okay with someone using the organs to save their personal dog/cat.

I asked my sister the same question (regarding her cat) and she refused to answer for the options where the animal was euthanized specifically for the organ... but she did say that she will use an organ from an animal that absolutely HAD to be euthanized no matter the situation, and ONLY if she were allowed to have the animal cremated and the ashes sent to her to keep.

Which is weird and a nice sentiment at the same time considering she's not really a big animal person.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-13-2012, 01:01 AM
StephyMei1112's Avatar
StephyMei1112 StephyMei1112 is offline
Blackout
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: No fixed abode.
Posts: 922
Default

Sure - if that dog was going to be put down for whatever other reason and it absolutely had to be/was going to be done. I wouldn't have another dog killed specifically for organ harvesting though...
__________________
Feudin' and fightin' and a-fussin,'
That's all that's goin' on with us'n!
We are such neighborly people, peaceful and sweet!
All except when we happen to meet.


Stories, Poetry, and Musings
http://inugami1112.wordpress.com/

"And it's all been lost before, so there's nothing to lose..."


"There are those that love dogs insanely and those that don't. But once you like a dog, you're sunk. You're a dog person for life."

UKC Kuvasz Standard
AKC Kuvasz Standard
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-13-2012, 01:10 AM
Saeleofu Saeleofu is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,036
Default

Quote:
That being said, you have to wonder what conditions euthanasia would have to take place in for the tissue to be useful. I don't think lethal injection would be good for that, so whatever it is would still have be a humane method.
Anesthetize the donor, take the organ, and euthanize them on the table. A good euthanasia involves sedation before the lethal injection anyway, taking that a step further to full anesthesia would make the organ salvageable. We have euthanized animals in the middle of surgery before when it becomes apparent the animal will not recover or will only be in pain/live a few days after waking up.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-13-2012, 01:17 AM
JessLough JessLough is online now
Love My Mutt <3
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 13,123
Default

I don't know that I could say I honestly would. If I *would*, the dog being saved would have to be very young.

I mean, I question the life of the dog that's getting the transplant after that. I know how much of a pain it is in humans to go through that, and there are so many things that could go wrong making them not any better off, anyway. I don't think that I would be able to assure myself that what I'm doing is best for the dog (quality vs quantity) and not just being selfish because *I* still want the dog alive.

Then again, it would take a lot for me to put one of my animals through surgery, and it would have to be pretty well a gaurentee that they'll be back to a normal life after the surgery.
__________________
Ella: 2 1/2 year old female ferret
Nacho: ~7 year old male ferret

Goodbye, Rosey. You were the best girl I could have asked for. 10/15/96-03/08/13
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-13-2012, 05:52 AM
Kat09Tails's Avatar
Kat09Tails Kat09Tails is offline
*Now with Snark*
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Upper Left hand corner, USA
Posts: 3,335
Default

No I would not. Not sure how many of you know people who have had organ transplants but it's not as simple as snip organ out of someone else and pop it in - and away you go. There is pain - there is a LOT of drugs with really crappy side effects.

I can't tell a dog this pain may or may not last like I can with a person. I can't tell them that immune therapy will save them despite the side effects.

IMO there is nothing wrong with taking the organs/tissues out of a dead animal and putting it into a live one - that critters not going to miss them any more than I'll miss my eyes, liver, heart etc after I kick the bucket. Keeping a live animal in pain for months or even years however is another story.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-13-2012, 06:58 AM
sassafras's Avatar
sassafras sassafras is offline
such sights to show you
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 5,529
Default

Nope. Just a line I don't think should be crossed.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-13-2012, 11:23 AM
Romy's Avatar
Romy Romy is offline
Taxiderpy
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 9,932
Default

Kat brought up another good point. When I answered I just assumed the scenario Sael put up where the dog's organs are harvested while its under anesthesia didn't apply, and that it would be more for stuff like corneas. I could maybe swing a cornea transplant to save eyesight or skin graft if there was a major accident and he got burned all over or something but was young and would recover. I don't think I would put my dog through a heart or kidney transplant though.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-13-2012, 11:29 AM
stardogs stardogs is offline
Behavior Nerd
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NC
Posts: 4,440
Default

Some fascinating info on canine kidney transplants here: http://biomed.brown.edu/Courses/BI10...als/canine.htm
__________________
Erin, Ziva, Kestrel, Aerten, and Snipe
Always in our hearts: The Amazing Maggie Mae


Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:27 PM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site