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Old 07-24-2012, 11:28 PM
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kind of a goofy name IMO, but they look neat!

http://alaskannoblecd.weebly.com/

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Lack of ability to achieve the AKC CGC temperament status recorded with AKC.
Lack of OFA Good or Excellent hip status recorded with OFA.
Lack of a CERF Pass eye status recorded with CERF.
Lack of 2 descended testicles in a male.
Severe underbite, severe overbite, wry jaw, or sideways-protruding teeth.
Any obvious skeleton deformities.
Obvious ectropion or entropion.
Weight 60-110 lbs, not ridiculously huge.

http://www.buckhorntamaskan.com/alaskannoble.htm
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The ANCD is also a new breed in progress. The founder, a geneticist, beginning in 1991, has created a black phase "wolf look-a-like" composed of herding, northern, retriever, sheep guarding, and sighthound breeds.
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The founder of this "noble breed" can be contacted through the ANCD web site. There is no wolf or wolfdog used in the Noble breeding. Do not confuse the Alaskan Noble with The North American Noble Dog bred by Noblepawz. They are not one in the same.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:40 PM
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Beautiful dogs, I didn't see a temperament standard? The pup on that second link looks very GSD.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:45 PM
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The Alaskan Noble Companion Dog is an eclectic breed and the ultimate generalist. The ideal dog is capable of almost any kind of work including herding, carting, agility, obedience, lure coursing, tracking, mushing, therapy dog work, and some Schutzhund events. Individual dogs will excel in various areas, but the breed as a whole is capable of producing competitors in any of these areas. This is a low maintenance breed in the sense that it is robust and long-lived, but higher maintenance in the sense that it has an active mind and body that prefer to be occupied with problems to solve and experiencing life to the fullest which includes a keen observation style.

This breed is a good companion indoors and out. The adult is not so high energy that it is bouncing off the walls of the house when left alone, but seldom is a 'couch potato' until well into old age (its later teen years). He is capable of being an 'alert' dog that knows when something is worth paying attention to by directing your attention via voice and body posture. He is friendly enough to get along casually with other dogs. Attempting to bite another dog is a disqualification.

Individuals of the breed may be somewhat aloof to strangers, but not apprehensive, standing their ground and showing confidence to meet overtures without themselves making them, while others may be openly extroverted to all strangers. They should be observant and vigilant of new situations and people, not switching loyalties easily yet all must be capable of eventually warming up to a friendly stranger.


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(that's from an internal link from the first link)

I think that's it. You're right that pup looks like a shepherd. But they do seem to have some homogeneity going on.
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Old 07-26-2012, 11:49 AM
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But... A lot of current breeds excell at things that could be considered 'oh of their comfort zone' example: Josefina will retrieve all day & LOVES the water but she is not a retriever, Izze loved 'bite work' but she is not a working type, & buddy can flush birds with the pest spaniel. A few mastiff types still can be use for livestock protection/ herding - thr Rottweiler & cane corso are a could that come to mind.

I see no need to create a whole new breed just so a person can have something 'versatile' when a really good minded dog of an existing breed can serve just fine.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:54 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQdrq...&feature=feedu

Really a beautiful dog. My dream dog look is pretty close to this. (and this: http://howlingforjustice.files.wordp...pack.jpg?w=700) Interesting find, I wonder what their numbers are currently.
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Really a beautiful dog. My dream dog look is pretty close to this. (and this: http://howlingforjustice.files.wordp...pack.jpg?w=700) Interesting find, I wonder what their numbers are currently.
Ditto - love the looks of these dogs. I have always been fascinated by wolves and they are my favorite animal by far - dream dog for sure!
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It looks like a black alaska husky or a racing line sibe.
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It looks like a black alaska husky or a racing line sibe.
Exactly. IMO this looks like a marketing gimmick to pet people for a breed type that already exists and that pet people have zero business owning. And I say that kindly as an owner of alaskan sled dog mutts.
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Exactly. IMO this looks like a marketing gimmick to pet people for a breed type that already exists and that pet people have zero business owning. And I say that kindly as an owner of alaskan sled dog mutts.
But but but, if they're bred out of Tamaskan lines then they do have "pet level" temperaments and drives. Which is why they would be awesome for me. Otherwise I wouldn't even consider it.

Honestly, if someone can fill that "wolfdog" niche with a mellow stable companion dog, I'm all for it. It would really cut down on the demand for real hybrids and also on the demand for wolfy looking northern breeds that don't have any business as companions in an apartment.
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But but but, if they're bred out of Tamaskan lines then they do have "pet level" temperaments and drives. Which is why they would be awesome for me. Otherwise I wouldn't even consider it.

Honestly, if someone can fill that "wolfdog" niche with a mellow stable companion dog, I'm all for it. It would really cut down on the demand for real hybrids and also on the demand for wolfy looking northern breeds that don't have any business as companions in an apartment.

They aren't bred out of Tamaskans, their is a few (two I know of) bred INTO Aatu Tamaskans
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