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Old 01-31-2012, 04:39 PM
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Old 01-31-2012, 04:51 PM
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take that!

although harsh, when you've broken some law, whether it's a leash law or speeding law or whatever, have the nuts to stand up and take responsibility for it.

I think the reaction was a bit extreme, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for those that want to skirt the rules then thumb their nose at authority.

I go leashless a lot of times, but if I was being questioned, i'd put my dogs in a down and take what was coming to me. If I thumbed my nose and told them I was Charlie Freakin Sheen and walked away, I'd expect to get something I really don't want.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:03 PM
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Yeah, I feel pretty much the same way. I think the taser was seriously excessive, and so was the arrest, considering the nature of the violation.

On the other hand, all he probably had to do was tell her his name, apologize, and say he wouldn't do it again. It doesn't even seem that she was going to give him a ticket. He was breaking the law, so she had the right to stop him. This may be a case where "contempt of cop" really is a legitimate excuse for the use of force . . . assuming that she asked him to stop or be arrested before she hit him with the taser, anyway.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:04 PM
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Given the fact that the park had been off-leash up until recently, I think the ranger could have at least said "hey, you can't have your dogs off-leash anymore" instead of trying to get all the info from the guy and then tazing him.

I just went through something similar the other day, except Sawyer had a drag leash on and apparently that's not good enough. I didn't get asked for my info though.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:11 PM
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Given the fact that the park had been off-leash up until recently, I think the ranger could have at least said "hey, you can't have your dogs off-leash anymore" instead of trying to get all the info from the guy and then tazing him.

I just went through something similar the other day, except Sawyer had a drag leash on and apparently that's not good enough. I didn't get asked for my info though.
I'm sort of assuming, I admit, that she said that first. I guess it will depend on the facts as they come out.
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A bit more detail:

http://www.ohmidog.com/2012/02/01/pa...unleashed-dog/
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How strange. I could see if he was like, actually leaving, and she told him to stop several times. But still, tazing him?
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How strange. I could see if he was like, actually leaving, and she told him to stop several times. But still, tazing him?
Yeah, I think its extreme too . . . but then I think . . . what ELSE was she supposed to do? Tackle him? Grab him and risk getting into a fight (I presume she was smaller than he was)? Call for back up? Say that he was under arrest and see what happened? Let him go? (I'd say the last except that he WAS breaking the law and blowing her off).

I really hate the fact that tasers are used so casually, and I don't think "contempt of cop" should be a crime. But just walking off when a LEO is talking to you about the fact you broke the law is pretty unacceptable too.
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Yeah, I REALLY dislike that tasers seem to be becoming the go to way to apprehend..and they seem to be used pretty frequently in very questionable situations.

I would say, call for back up, follow him, etc.
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And then there's always, "is it really worth chasing someone down over?"
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