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Old 12-04-2009, 12:35 AM
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Unhappy Lung Cancer...

So... if anyone read my photo thread from Thanksgiving (http://www.chazhound.com/forums/t108913/), you would have seen my mother's lovely standard poodle, Cleo - the dog I grew up with. She still seems to have tons of life left to her years (she "dances" and barks at the neighbors and generally seems happy, if slowing down a bit with age...). Mom noticed a while back she was hacking a lot; the vet diagnosed her with an infections of some sort and put her on cephalexin for a bit. While I was at home over Thanksgiving, she was still on the antibiotics, still coughing, and her bark sounded "off".

Mom took her back to the vet 2 days ago, they did x-rays, and he thinks she has lung cancer. Has anyone dealt with this before? My basset is seeing my vet tomorrow for her swollen face and I'm going to ask her while I'm there, but just wanted to see if anyone has personal experience. Mom's vet told her that lung cancer is usually secondary to something else, so I can only assume that at this point our option is going to be to make the most of the time she has left our family is, understandably, devastated. I'd like to think we could do chemo or something along those lines, as from what I recall working for my vet, it's not nearly as taxing to dogs as it is to humans. However, at 12 years old and not knowing what else is going on besides her lungs, I'd imagine there's not a whole lot we can do. My mom would spare no expense to keep Cleo around, but she's also not selfish enough to want her to spend her last however-long-she-has being poked and prodded I imagine you'll see a lot more photos of the old lady in the future.
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Old 12-04-2009, 01:25 AM
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Dogs do generally do better with chemo than humans do. The vet should be able to tell you if it would be a suggested treatment.

My late Legend had lung cancer, but it was secondary to an inoperable abdominal tumor. He did do well and was very comfortable for quite some time after diagnosis though.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:03 AM
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That makes me feel a bit better. What happened that led to the diagnosis of the abdominal tumor? In the past few years my mom's dog has stopped eating quickly... she's at a good weight and has never gotten too skinny, and always seems super excited about food, but then she'll pick out 3 kibbles at a time or so... and just generally take her own sweet time to eat. It could just be a poodle thing (I'm accustomed to hounds sucking down their food like hoovers...), but I feel like she used to eat faster...
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:22 AM
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THat is exactly what happened to my Bronki. He was only 7 years old. I should have seen the signs, mary getting the toy first and him just laying there watching her, little things. The first time i saw the spot of blood on the carpet i think i knew, had suspicion, but when the vet said it was an infection i was relieved. THe first round of antibiotics didn't work. We went back and that was when he did the xray. I had just lost my SO to lung cancer.IT didn't seem possible that i could lose them both but I did. My SO told me it didn't hurt, he was just so terribly tired.
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:05 AM
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Well, she hasn't coughed up blood yet, and she really isn't abnormally lethargic for her age... may I ask what the protocol was? Did you just wait it out until Bronki told you he was ready to go? I'm so sorry you had to lose both your SO and your dog this way I suppose it is comforting in a way to at least know it wasn't terribly painful...
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:07 AM
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whoa, in lung cancer pretty common with dogs?

can smoking around them cause it?
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:56 PM
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whoa, in lung cancer pretty common with dogs?

can smoking around them cause it?
I had to look this up recently when Malcolm developed aspiration pneumonia a second time ... wanted to see what i was up against (BF smokes in house, but away from the dogs, but still). Yes, they can develop lung cancer from second hand smoke.

I've seen it more common in dogs with osteosarcoma though. Seems like once you get that diagnosis, if advanced, it's often spread to the lungs.

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to the OP - Good luck to your mom and her dog!!
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I'm sorry that she's going through this .
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I'm so very sorry. This is devestating to your family, not to mention the poor dog. If there is any hope of recovery with minimal suffering in the process, maybe something can be done. But you're Mom is right. When they get to a certain age, sometimes these treatments just aren't worth causing what time they have left more discomfort. My heart goes out to you all.
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Old 12-04-2009, 11:32 AM
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Well, I took Dais to the vet this morning and talked to her some about Cleo. The verdict at this point is that lung cancer is almost *always* metastatic to another cancer, and at her age it really isn't in her best interest to put her through chemo or anything else. We may run a few tests just to see if we can figure out what the primary cancer is, and get a better idea of how much time she has left, but at this point all we can do is make sure she has the best nutrition possible and is happy and pain-free until she's ready to leave us She'll be coming and staying with me from the 20th on through Xmas, so I'll make sure to take lots of walks in the woods and take a lot of photos. Thanks, everyone, for your support...
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UKC GRCH 'PR' Hannas Creek Liz
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And the "off-colored" hounds:
Daisy Duke Garrett CGC, RA & my <3 dog (basset)

Very Missed:
UKC GRCH CCH 'PR' Skyplott Teddy Bearhug
UKC CH CCH 'PR' Hannas Creek Irresistible You
'PR' Dead River K-N-A Swagger - the BAD puppy!
(and Autumn, the feist.)
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