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Old 11-03-2009, 09:51 AM
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what kind of person posts the likes of
"I have 3 puppies left. i will be putting them to sleep by end of week if they are not adopted. 3 months old. call for adoption fee*number edited for privicy* blood will be on the hands of the flaggers who keep shutting down my post."

now this guy has 3 PRESA puppies...
these are not your normal every day breed in this area...
there not a "beginner" breed, theres no rescues in the area willing to deal with them they would be pts imediatly if put in a shelter as thats what there doing now with all "dangerous breeds" (mastif types, pitbull types, Ambulldog types, rotties, dobes and some other "bully type" breeds are, for the most part being pts upond admittance as shelters are full and these breeds are considered (by THEM) high risk.

my inner heartstrings tugged ive dropped the guy an email asking what hes looking for for an adoption fee and if these little ones have seen a vet ect (ie what would an "adopter" be getting for this money)
ive got a feeling hes going to be asking an astronomical "fee" for these dogs as its not a doubt its a BYB.

but i feel horrible for these pups, whether he would just have them PTS or not (especially since pts will cost him money) i dont know, but the thought that 3 3mth old pups would be killed becasue of some idiots stupidity and money grabbing just horrifies me.

unfortunatly though this breed...well everything ive read about them makes them amazing family dogs, but not for your average household.
my father would KILL me if i brought them here (though im still thinking about it lol)
sigh.

WHY are there people like this in the world?

as the owner of these pus he is within legal rights to have them pts and theres not a single vet in this area that wouldnt do it knowing what would happen to them in a shelter...*ugh*

ill see what his reply is...mabe i could get an out of state rescue involved if he seems like he might be reasonable about signing them over.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:03 AM
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do a search on the phone # & see if you can come upw/ a name & address. then post it on CL w/the whole story so people can go get in his grill. if you don't want to i will.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:20 AM
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I would get them then give them to a rescue.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:35 AM
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I wouldn't want to see them put down but I really wouldn't "adopt" from this guy. If the "they'll be pts if you don't buy them" scam works, then he'll probably just breed more pups and do it again. I doubt that he'd really put them to sleep anyway. Like you said that costs money plus I just can't imagine it can be that hard to find homes for 3mo old pure bred puppies if you're not asking too much money for them. I'd say the best thing would be to put him in contact with a shelter (out of the area I guess) that would take them. Maybe even offer to take them over if he's unwilling. But I'd really hate to give into his ploy and pay money for his puppies.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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Ok, now THIS is the type of CL bull that needs flagged!

What a moron! I feel for those pups, but there is no way on earth I would consider "saving" these babies from him for his adoption "fee"
And him having them PTS and wasting his $ is probably reaching.......more likely he'd drown them or dump them somewhere If he's anything at all the way his ad sounds anyway.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:52 AM
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As sad as it is, this isn't the first time I've seen someone threaten to kill the dogs if they're not adopted. I think it's just one more way to scam someone into buying the dog. I think there's a limit on how much you can charge for an 'adoption fee' on craigslist. So people can get around that by saying 'rehoming fee'.

As to whether he'd actually kill the dogs, it's debatable. I think he's just trying to play the sympathy card to talk someone out of their money.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:08 PM
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AC, unfortunatly i belive your right...

and unfortunatly ive seen it happen...
the use of PTS doesnt always mean by a vet.
thats how i got my first dog, king, he was born along with a large number of other dane pups and was one of 6 that were solid white, the rest were merle and "merlequin" the white ones noone would take because of the risk of vision or hearing problems and he wasnt interested in taking the time to raise the merles just for "pet" prices...at least the merlequins he could get some cash for, so he sold the quins, then tried to drown the other 8 puppies casue "noone wanted them" i only managed to save one as i was too late to save the rest.

i would aboslutly not pay any money to pull these pups, i dont have money to give so thats not a problem...
if he would be willign to give them free to either myself or work with a shleter absolutly id take all 3 and rehome them (or get intouch iwth a shelter who does well with mastif and bulldog type breeds)

it just so depressing to see things like that.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:30 PM
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I hope you can get them from him, either for you or a shelter to rehome.

That is how I came to have Orson........awful man calling himself a "breeder" was letting him waste away with a belly full of worms, at nearly 3 months old he was a piddly 12 lbs, he could barely stand and it was even more of a challenge to walk You know that a dobe pup at three months should be upwards of 30lbs! There is no way I would reward him with money, but I did take the pup from him free with intentions of rehoming..........one thing led to another and boom, we have had him for nearly 4 years, LOL

There are those who said it was wrong to "unburden" this man and take the pup for free, they said it was enabling him to continue breeding. That isn't the way I see it at all. It wasn't "unburdening" him of anything because he could've cared less if Orson lived or died, he'd made his money from Orson's siblings who were already sold.........and even if he hadn't, he didn't care. He obviously wouldn't be out money anyway because I don't think there were vet bills involved in his little operation!

Good luck Foxy, I will keep you in my thoughts to get these pups into a better situation.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:41 PM
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report it to A/C too.

wasnt there recently a story on the news about a BYB who said shes put down pom puppies if they didnt get adopted? Maybe getting A/C involved might get the word out and someone experienced can step in?
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:53 PM
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report it to A/C too.

wasnt there recently a story on the news about a BYB who said shes put down pom puppies if they didnt get adopted? Maybe getting A/C involved might get the word out and someone experienced can step in?
I'd get Rescue Ink involved They could be pretty intimidating standing at your front door and the guy would probably willingly give them up because Rescue Ink will not take his threat to PTS lightly. They in turn would make sure they got into proper homes. If A/C was to get involved there might not be much that they could do because dogs are considered property and with property you can do anything you want with it as long as it is not abuse.
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