Do pitbulls turn on there owners i heard their horrible.

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

Do pitbulls turn on there owners i heard their horrible. I like rottweilers and dobermans. I like MOST but not all big gaurd dog breeds. I was thinking baout getting pitbulls are they not to be trusted.

~~~Give me your opinion~~~

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

bump ?

[sheltiepups]

Pit-bulls can be trusted with a lot of training, it really depends on the breeder, how they are raised, and their temperaments, so no I don’t think they will turn on their owners, but before you get one do a lot of research!

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

cool the one i saw was at pet shop so how do i know if it had a good breeder

[sheltiepups]

Ummm…. If it was in a pet shop it’s not from a good breeder. My breeder shows her dogs, that’s one really good way of knowing, and if you get a pet puppy from a breeder it will probable be cheaper then getting one from a pet store.

[sheltiepups]

Pet store = puppy mill

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

Another Thing Is I Heard Even Pitbulls That Come From Good Breeders Are Unpredictable. What Do U Think?

[sheltiepups]

In someway all dogs are unpredictable, that's life. But I also think that with the proper training they will be stable and make great pets, like I said before do the homework on the breed, then decide if you want one, they are know for their dog aggressiveness

[2_of_a_kind]

I was raised with pit bull when i was about 12. He was a wonderful dog. Pit Bull's are nothing like the media displays them. At all. I have a pit bull puppy and she's wonderful, smart (she knows sit and speak and is doing well with "stay".. she's only 10wks old) and she's VERY very loving.

What you should do is research the breed, research what bad temperments to look for..

if you adopt or buy.. make sure you know about the parents and if you're really concerned about the temperment (which is very important) check the grandparents as well.

Pit Bulls are naturally dog-aggressive (this does NOT mean that ALL Pit Bull's are dog-aggressive--*I know MANY that are NOT*, it's just the way they've been bred throughout history) ANY dog that is HUMAN AGGRESSIVE is NOT SOUND.

Pit Bull's are no exception to that rule. Of course, humans are to blame for dogs that are human-aggressive. Either that or bad breeding (maybe even inbreeding).

Please educate yourself about the breed. They're wonderful dogs but a big responsibility because it takes THICK SKIN to put up with the horrible things uneducated people say about pit bulls, and Pit Bull's, unfortunately, are discriminated against all the time with Breed Specific Laws.

Fact: A male german sheperd is more likely to bite a human than a male pit bull

(According to a study and assuming both dogs are SOUND)


EDUCATE YOURSELF PLEASE!

[RD]

Pitbulliest could probably educate you on the subject of Pit Bulls.

A well-bred (NO FIGHTING LINES) and well-raised/socialized Pit Bull is a wonderful dog. i've seen examples of this.

They WILL become aggressive if they're just tied up in the yard with no attention. But then, any dog will, so no need to single out pits.

[RD]

PS -- No offense, but before you think about buying ANY large dog, PLEASE really educate yourself on the breed and how to manage them. In the hands of a well-educated owner, a big dog can be a great friend. In the hands of an ignorant person, a big dog can be a hazard to everyone and everything.

[flyndog]

Facez of Death,
Owning a Pit Bull is like owning a hand gun.
BTW, I'm not opposed to either, depending on who has their hand on the "trigger".
Kit

[2_of_a_kind]

Facez of Death,
Owning a Pit Bull is like owning a hand gun.
BTW, I'm not opposed to either, depending on who has their hand on the "trigger".
Kit

Owning a pit bull is like owning a hand gun? LOL ! I have to laugh.. !!
You might as well say owning a rottie or a german sheperd is like owning a hand gun, and i know that isn't true. Gimme a freakin break. :p

[2_of_a_kind]

In fact, my BEAGLE is more vicious than my Pit Bull :p

[pitbulliest]

I'd like to start of by saying flyndog...I'm very sorry that you simply aren't educated on the breed at all...you know nothing about pit bulls..and I mean nothing...from the looks of it, you watch too much T.V...with all my heart..I honestly feel very sorry for you and hope that one day you'll snap the hell out of it!

facez of death.. if you want to get a pit bull..reconsider..to be honest..they are not the best breed for first time dog owners..and if you have no previous knowledge or experience with the breed...then seriously look into getting another dog first..unless you're willing to do research for at least a few months...these dogs are abused, exploited, and constantly mistreated and misunderstood. If you want a pit, you're gonna have to deal with everything that goes along with the breed..including constant stereotypical comments from people, the fact that your dog could very well be dog aggressive...the fact that stupid people will ask whether you'd like to fight or breed your dog...the fact that if some other dog attacks yours, you WILL be the one that gets blamed...etc..etc..etc.

Most of the owners that have pit bulls are irresponsible and know nothing about the breed or how to raise them properly. If you want a pit bull, or any other dog for that matter (which like I said I would recommend first), then you're best off with either a shelter or a breeder. With a shelter, you could very well find a wonderful dog in need of a good home...with a breeder, you'll have more background info on the dog you're interested in. HOWEVER, with that being said...just because they're breeders, and just because they have papers for their dogs, it doesn't mean that they're any good. Watch out for backyard breeders..... if you're going to start looking for one, I suggest watching out for these good signs....and not just one of them...ALL of them and MORE:

1) Make sure the breeder asks and is more suspicious of you than you are of them. A good breeder will want the best home for their pups. THEY ASK ALOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE THEY CARE..if they don't, then don't bother.

2) Make sure the pups are going home when they are AT LEAST 8 weeks of age. Anything before that is unnacceptable with a responsible breeder.

3) How often are they breeding their dogs? I would say a somewhat reasonable number of times would be once every two years AT THE MOST...make sure you didn't come to a puppy mill!

4) Are they able to provide you with complete health documentations on both parents? They should be able to!

5) Are they allowing you to take a look at the conditions the dogs are in, their home, to meet the parents of the pups? Reputable breeders will actually encourage this.

6) Are they performing home checks on you without appointment? Dropping by and asking to see your home? That's a good thing.

7) Do they have a lengthy contract for you to sign that ensures you will spay/neuter your pup and will pay the consequences in court if there is an accidental breeding or if the owner finds out that the pup is being abused in any way? Does the contract state that if by any circumstances you cannot keep the animal at any point in time, you MUST return it to the breeder where it will be properly rehomed..and if not, you WILL pay the consequences in court? All of these points should be brought up by a good breeder.

8) Are the dogs temperment tested? Do they have bloodline information for you to look at? Are they willing to give you all the information you need about care/ownership/the breeds history and characteristics, etc?

With this being said, I still urge you to do a heck of alot of research on the breed since they require an educated and dedicated owner. At this point in time, the breed is in a very delicate situation, where BSL is springing up all over the fricken place...and any negative incident that could be avoided takes place that involves these dogs....(usually because of irresponsible breeders and owners), the pit bulls reputation is only damaged that much more. Please do alot of research and if you can, I would suggest adopting another dog from the shelter that needs a home until you can familiarize yourself with the breed. If you are extremely keen on pits, then try to foster a few from a shelter and see what you think. That will prepare you more for what you're about to deal with. They are awesome dogs, just not for everyone.

If you want more information, maybe some of these sites will help you a bit more:
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/index.cfm
http://www.dogwatch.net/strategy.html
http://www.forpitssake.org/
http://www.pbrc.net/faq.html
http://www.loveabull.org/
http://www.realpitbull.com/abuse.html
http://www.pitbulllovers.com/
http://www.pitbullpets.com/
http://www.realpitbull.com/

Some examples of responsible and excellent breeders that know what they're talking about:
http://www.hartagold.com/
http://matrixkennels.com/

The Pit Bull Chat Forum (similar to chazhound forum but for pitbull owners)
http://www.pitbullforum.com <-- good place to ask some questions since most of the people there are pit bull freaks like myself lol

Good Luck.

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

Guys listen to this!!! This is why I dont trust pit bulls. My sister had a friend that had a pitbull since child hood. It loved her and she took it evry where. One day she came home and the pitbull ripped her arm open for no reason.

[Renee750il]

Dogs don't do things "for no reason." We just aren't paying attention when we think this. Her dog had a reason; it may not have been directly related to anything your sister's friend did, but believe me, there was a reason. The dog was agitated or in pain or there was something physiologically wrong.

This is a prime example of why Pits, or Amstaffs, or GSDs or Rotties, or Dobies, or Airdales, or Mastiffs - or JRTs for that matter - along with countless other breeds are not dogs for just anybody to own. It is imperative for everyone concerned; you, your dog, your family, your neighbors, that you choose a dog that is appropriate to your situation and personality. Too many people spend more time and thought choosing a car than a dog.

[Renee750il]

By the way, you guys are being a bit harsh on Kit (Flyndog). If you think about it, owning a large, strong, athletic dog is quite a bit like owning a gun. They are both regarded as protection; they are both completely benign until someone loads them and pulls the trigger. There's nothing derogatory about the metaphor; it's actually very apt. And you guys know what kind of monsters I have, so yes, my three are very much like an arsenal, except that they are capable of making decisions on their own, which a gun (obviously) is not. It's my responsibility - and the responsibility of everyone with a dog, large or small - to make sure that they understand the difference between normal and threat.

There is one difference that I maintain is very important, though, just from the viewpoint of personal safety: you can't break in my home to steal my dog, then shoot me with my own dog!

[RD]

Guys listen to this!!! This is why I dont trust pit bulls. My sister had a friend that had a pitbull since child hood. It loved her and she took it evry where. One day she came home and the pitbull ripped her arm open for no reason.

That's one dog, and one example. Why judge the whole breed because of one dog? There are thousands of Pit Bulls out there that don't have an aggressive bone in their body.

[2_of_a_kind]

That's one dog, and one example. Why judge the whole breed because of one dog? There are thousands of Pit Bulls out there that don't have an aggressive bone in their body.

WELL SAID ! :)

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

Yeah pitbulls do that all the time though

[shredhead (DOG LOVER)]

Yeah pitbulls do that all the time though
Thats the result of bad training. Don't blame the dog, blame the owner.

[RD]

That, and bad breeding, shredhead.

The media favors stories about Pit Bulls attacking, for two reasons.

One: they have a bad rap and the media loves to embellish things like that
Two: When a Pit Bull attacks, on the rare occasion that they are truly aggressive and want to do damage, they do a LOT of damage with those strong jaws.



Why aren't you saying that about Golden Retrievers, FOD? What about Labradors? GSD's?

Goldens and Labs attack people just as often as Pit Bulls, why don't you call them unpredictable, vicious animals?

Because the majority of the well-bred ones are sweet and even-tempered. Pit Bulls are exactly the same way, but with a huge public fear due to idiots who think that they'll get the toughest dog around by ignoring it and beating it.

You don't hear much about the good pits, only the bad ones.. Stop believing everything you read and see on tv, it'll make you crazy. ;)

[pitbulliest]

Flyndog...I appologize for my outburst. I completely misunderstood your message. I thought you were referring to pit bulls being as dangerous as guns..or something negative along those lines... I guess I'm too caught up with all the negative things being said about pits by facez of death.

Facez...just because one negative incident involving a certain breed of dog occurs, this doesn't mean that the entire breed should be punished. That would just be pretty darn ignorant if you ask me. Not to mention, like I've stated before, over 80 percent of "pit bull" attacks/bites don't even involve a pit bull but a dog of another breed. Statistics are also innacurate in that officials are uneducated when it comes to identifying breeds...here look at this:

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

Be honest..did you guess the right answer the first time? :P there ya go!
Don't be fooled by the uneducated, narrow minded, one sidedness of the media...that's what they're there for..to brainwash vulnerable and guilable people like yourself. Do the breed, yourself, and everyone else a favor..and do some research on these so called "vicious and evil" dogs...k? I won't repeat myself anymore for cryin out loud!

Here's my suggestion:

1. Never get a pit bull if you were ever considering one..you obviously have no idea about the breed and we don't need irresponsible and unknowledgeable people owning them...especially ones that only carry negative outlooks on the breed.

2. Stop being a hypocrite. You own a rottie mix. Do I have to remind you that your dog was once in the same position that the pit is going through at the moment? Yes..rotties were once considered the devils of the dog world...constantly in the eye of the media...unfortunately its the pits turn...but who knows..your precious dog might be the object of interest when it comes to the "vicious dog list" yet again in a few years...you should be fighting against such biased, stereotypical, and false accusations about breeds..not supporting them.

3. GO DO ALOT OF RESEARCH..you'll see exactly what I mean if you're not thick headed.

[Renee750il]

Pitbulliest, you are eminently correct about the erroneous classification of dogs by people who should know better! My Charley was telling me about something that happened to him years ago when Odd Job, a Rottie/Bull Mastiff cross was still alive. Charley took him to his regular vet for his yearly, and one of the techs came back with hs chart, writing things down. When Charley looked at the chart, this tech - a graduate of a university with a degree as a veterinary assistant - had re-written Odd Job's description as a Pit Bull mix! Charley hit the roof, not because he doesn't like Pits (he loves them) but because the town of White Pine that the farm is on the outskirts of has outlawed ownership of Pit dogs in the city limits. Labeling Odd Job as a Pit dog could have caused all sorts of problems, and it wasn't as if Oddsie's parentage was unknown!

People have this strange idea that if it looks even remotely like a Pit, it must be a Pit - no matter what. I've even had a couple of people ask me, when Buffy was alive, if she was a cross between a Pit dog and a Bloodhound! Puh-lease! No Pit dog ever had the nasty attitude toward strangers that Buffy did! (rofl)

Do you remember the media circus around the tragic attack of the young lacrosse coach in San Francisco? After the first week, it was never noted that the dogs involved were Presa Canario CROSSES. The media kept harping on the "violent, aggressive Presa Canario." When it started coming out that these two dogs had been horribly abused, it was shut up quickly since, presumably, it detracted from the sensationalism of being able to label yet another breed a "killer dog."
Charley had actually been considering the Presa at the time since it is a drover, like the Fila, and would be sturdy enough to deal with the coyotes here, but after that we realized that having a Presa after the publicity would just cause all sorts of trouble for us and for our dogs. They're actually very similar in many ways to the Filas, but they're not as large. One thing about the Filas; they're under the media's 'killer dog' radar! Let's hope we can keep it that way by keeping them out of the wrong ownership!

And by the way, FaceZ, if you'll just go back and just read the different threads in the Chazhound forum alone dealing with Pit Bulls and American Staffordshire Terriers you'll learn quite a bit!

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

ok~~~~~~

[flyndog]

Pitbulliest, sorry for the misunderstanding. I don't think guns are dangerous unless they end up in the wrong hands. I don't think pits are dangerous unless they end up in the wrong hands. My neighbor in Miami was a pit, Buford. Lovable guy who played with my son who was 2 at the time. Buford had to go to family members in Georgia when Miami passed their Pitbull law.

Renee, I like your comment that nobody can break into your house and use your dog against you! LOL Good point!!
Kit

[FaceZ Of DeaTh]

umm i agree personaly i wouldn't get one but they probably are good.~~~

[shredhead (DOG LOVER)]

That show , Animal Precinct, on Animal Planet channel isn't helping the pitbulls name that much either. They make them look like they are only good for fighting. What they don't tell you is about how the dogs were beaten and forced to kill.

I also heard that many people who fight pitbulls are starting to breed for the pitbull to be a lot more aggressive. This is the stupidest idea ever.

[pitbulliest]

don't get me started on law enforcement..they're partly to blame for this entire vicious dog disaster. If they weren't so busy playing golf on their days off and collecting tax payer's money..then maybe we'd have a few more efficient laws that took care of the thugs/criminals/drug dealers that make the breed look terrible. UGH...I don't know what else to say. Poor..poor pit bulls.

[RD]

There was a cop around here who beat a Pit to death with a baseball bat as it ran up to him to say hello. It had its CGC and belonged to an 8 year old girl. Vicious. :mad:

[Renee750il]

Unfortunately too many cowards and bullies grow up to be cops and are still cowards and bullies. They not only endanger us, but also the underpaid and overworked civil servants who become officers of the law for all the right reasons.

[Sadarra]

FaceZ Of DeaTh-

If you have no clue right now whether or not the Pit is going to attack then DO NOT GET A PIT! End of sentence, if you can't fully trust the dog then their is absolutely no reason you should even be thinking about getting one. I think Boaconstrictors are cool but I am scared to death of them. Some people will say I have nothing to worry about them but I'm no idiot, if I can't confidently handle a Boa then I will not get one no matter what people tell me. It should be the same with you. If you can't shake the vicious image then do not get a Pit.

If you still must have a dog then do more research. At this point you are at least 2 years away. Talk and visit with breeders, attend shows and play with as many Pits as you can. Shake your fears before even thinking about this breed.

[Booga]

I've heard people ask this question over and over. The truth is that 99% of the result of not only the PIT BULL but any breed turning on the owner is because of the owner. Often times the people who purchase these 'vicious' dogs aren't good owners. I've heard of cases were the owner fed his pit raw meat and beat every day to make it a 'good guard dog.' I have a beautiful 9 year old Rottie who also gets bad rep as a breed but let me tell you... he is the biggest teddy bear in this world. he loves going to the park and allowing children to ride him and play with him.

just yesturday I saw a yorkie attach a 3 year old and made her bleed.

So i hope this answered your question. these bigger breeds have the capacity to do much damage due to the size and lock jaw but if raised properly do not fear that they will EVER turn on you. show your dog love and they will too.

-booga

[chazhound]

Hi Booga, Welcome to the Forums!

Well said!

Chazhound

[Sadarra]

I agree with you Booga, the owners of the dogs that turn and attack them are asking for it. Their was a case a while back where a guy was found shredded by his Pit Bull, the dog was euthanized immediately and it was later discovered the man had beat the dog repeatedly in order to spur on its aggression. Someone beats me daily and I'm gonna take any chance I can to let him have it and won't stop till I know the sucker is dead.

In my years of training, pet sitting and grooming, I have been bit 3 times. Twice by Shih Tzus and once by a Cocker. I've handled many Rotts, Pits, Chows and other "dangerous" dogs and never had a problem.

Just one comment, you mentioned "lock jaw". This is a common myth. The Pits jaw does not lock in anyway, the dogs are just simply more gung-ho to hold on. Rest assured that if you accidently get bit by a pit, the dogs jaw will not lock. If the dog is well socialized and knows he's doing wrong, he is going to release you.

[Ratboy]

I had a Pit mix for over 14 years, he never started a single fight in his entire life, but he did finish a couple. He was amazingly tolerant of people, and other dogs nonsense.

A friend of mine's Pit Bull has slept with their daughter almost from the first day she came home from the hospital. At first, my friend and his wife didn't know it, they thought she was sleeping on the couch as she had done for the two years they had her. She actually was climbing up into the crib and sleeping with her, and when the baby would cry or move too much, she would jump out and go into the hall, just in time for mom or dad to show up and go in to check on her. My friend "caught them" sleeping together one night when he walked in to check on the kid after not being able to find the dog in her usual place. He made the dog come sleep with he and his wife, and closed the door to keep her in the room with them. That lasted a couple of days, as neither the kid or the dog would stop whining and crying until she was allowed back into the crib. The kid is almost 5 now, and sleeps with that dog every night, in a regular bed now, of course. I would trust that dog with any little kid..

[Renee750il]

Once dogs get it in their heads that they're responsible for someone or something you might as well give up. They're going to faithfully watch and care for whoever or whatever it is until the day they die. We should all strive to be half as good as our dogs.

[tl_ashmore]

Remember when Bula got lost? Well, I went to the animal shelter to look for her, and there was a cop pulling in, so I thought he might have found her. Well, when I got out of the car to go talk to him, he had another male pit in his car, and he was so terrified of this dog. He didn't want to touch the dog to put it in the pen, so me and my 5 year old nephew went to the police car,(I went up to the dog first) and he came right up to us tail wagging and tongue hanging out ready to kiss. My nephew grabbed the dogs collar and led him into the pen. I'm actually surprised the cop didn't shoot the dog with a tranq just to get him out of the car. Some people just need to understand that just because a dog might be aggressive to other dogs, does not mean he will be aggressive to humans.

[Renee750il]

The miracle, Ti, is that you didn't come home with that one, too! I hope the owners found him. I don't know how other shelters deal with these dogs, but the one here had a policy of putting anything that resembled a Pit or a Rottie down if the owner didn't claim it. They were advised that liability issues were too costly to "risk" adopting them out. I understand the reasoning behind it, but it's still HORRIBLE!

[iloveprincess]

Do pitbulls turn on there owners i heard their horrible. I like rottweilers and dobermans. I like MOST but not all big gaurd dog breeds. I was thinking baout getting pitbulls are they not to be trusted.

~~~Give me your opinion~~~
You could get a pitt, as long as you check it's past records. If it has a history of fighting,abuse,neglect, or anything in that caatagory don't do it. I don't know about you but I don't like them because one of them riped my dogs heart out. So if anyone ever offers me a pitt, I will certantly check it's history.

[Zoom]

Wow...this thread is over 2 years old...

[showpug]

Facez of Death,
Owning a Pit Bull is like owning a hand gun.
BTW, I'm not opposed to either, depending on who has their hand on the "trigger".
Kit

:rolleyes:

[Amstaffer]

I think a better comparison is.... Being owned by a human is like playing Russian Roulette.

Implying that pit bulls are more unstable than other breeds is mistaken at best and spreading ignorance that gets good dogs PTS at worst............

[LuvinBullies]

This thread is old and also dangerous to resurrect.
We are past a lot of the stuff thrown around in this thread...I think we should be adults and leave it alone or a mod might wanna close it even. JMHO.

BTW...any dog can "turn" on it's owner if its owner didn't train it worth a darn. Sometimes people who are not in fact "owners" are referred to as such when the press gets ahold of the story. For example in Florida this past summer a woman was killed by her boyfriend's Cane Corso (maybe Presa Canario, I can't remember- it just wasn't an APBT) while she was trying to give it a bath. The story of course read "Dog kills owner" and even called the dog "akin to a pit bull". Rubbish. Yes, the dog turned on her- but No, she was not the "owner".