Breeder breeding 14 different breeds of dogs often! Im worried

[SandStone_Kennels]

Hi,
I came upon this website today and thought it looked a bit odd. They are selling 14 diferent breeds of pups at the same time. :( Here's all the different breeds they are breeding...

German min pins, COCKER / CAVALIERS, BELGIAN GRIFFON, COCKERS toys, YORKIE PUPS, FOX TERRIERS, BEAGLES POCKETS, SIBERIAN HUSKYS, POM PUPPIES, PUG PUPS, TOY SCHNAUZER PUPS, BOXERS and AMERICAN BULL DOGS.

No where on the site says they are registered breeders. Each page about the pups talks one sentence about the dogs and then the rest about deposits and money. I don't really believe they accually have any dogs or pups for sale. Just making it up.

Have a look at the website. The URL is http://groups.msn.com/TEKSKENNELS
I also believe there is someone from Chazhound who got scammed into this. She has a thread on here. I e-mailed them and asked them if they have any for sale and if they can give me some info about them and the parents of the pups. I'm waiting for a reply. This is a serious thing.

They have a lot of pictures on the site. Maybe they just took the pics when they were at a friends place with their dogs.

Anyway, check it out and tell me what you think. If I get some more evidence I might tell the Canine Association in Indiana. Does anyone live in Indiana?

Thx

[ZeroNAndresDad]

There is a WHOLE lot i don't like about that look at all the designer breeds listed! I would say PuppyMill

[SandStone_Kennels]

Another person on chazhound got scammed from these people. They paid the deposit, then waited eagily for the pup to arrive....... Nothing came.... E-mailed them back.... "Sorry, but, well...."

Have you checked out the site? I don't think its an adult. I reckon its a kid trying to earn some money. They can't spell :( weird

[SandStone_Kennels]

I put a deposit down on a puppy with Tammy Gilchrist, owner of Teks Kennels and she has not produced the puppy and won't return my deposit. I found a couple other people who were scammed by her as well and was checking to get feedback from someone who might have had a similar experience with this breeder.

Thats the person who got scammed. She has a thread in dog sites/pup sites on chazhound. Read that

[Fran27]

I saw someone else on another forum being scammed as well...

[YorkieLover]

Tammy Gilchrest sounds very familiar, I'm going to do some research and see where I've seen that name before. That place is unbelievable, there are so many puppies and I looked at some of the pictures and the place is a disaster area. I agree also that whoever this is they sure can't spell.

[YorkieLover]

Look under the yorkie pups and at the "breeder yorkie" she looks so sad and older. These types of places make me absolutely sick. I even read her Guarantee and other links what a joke.

[mrose_s]

taht sounds bad :(

[Fran27]

I still can't believe that nothing is done... People complain that they got scammed, why don't they do anything?

[SandStone_Kennels]

I started investigating this person after reading another thread on Chazhound. I can't believe it. Yorkielover, can you post what you find out? We'd love to hear it. If we get some proof maybe we can get them reported or something. People are loosing money from this scam. I wouldn't buy fom one of these places any way. I wouldn't feel secure if i payed a deposit without seeing the pup. I'll see what i can come up with. Maybe contact the canine assoc. in that area to have a look. Anyone live in Indiana?

[bubbatd]

I'm in Indiana and I think this could be the boy that EliNHunter told me about last year. He was written up as a young go-getter who set up a web site to sell litters for other people. Will check !

[poeluvr]

Definetly Puppy Mill .Where Do They Get All These Puppys From Thou Then ,For The Pictures, If You Think It Is Just A Kid?

[beagle_lovergirl]

Yup, Puppymill. Plus they have to get a license to breed pocket beagles, if not she can be arrested for at least a year.

[poeluvr]

pocket beagles?

[juliefurry]

I live in Indiana. I should try finding out where she lives from where I live.

[juliefurry]

That's wierd I just tried to email and I can't find a way to email. I can only get info on how to make the deposit but not how to get in touch with the breeder? I was going to try getting in touch too, maybe asking about taking a trip down there to see a certain breed and find out what is going on (if they'd let me).

[YorkieLover]

Try tekskennels@hotmail.com

[juliefurry]

Ok, I sent it asking about the Boston terrier pups. I just asked to see if I could come and see the puppies, I'll see if they write back. I told them if I liked them I would pick one up that day. Hopefully I will be allowed to go see them then I can get an idea of what's going on with these people. How do you get intouch to file a complaint agianst them? I think it's a little much to be breeding 14 different breeds of dogs, I think someone should be informed. Especially because I was reading about the American Bulldogs and they said they have 1 female and two males (I believe they are talking about the breeding pairs) so that means this poor female is getting bred over and over agian!

[poeluvr]

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.Where Do They Get All These Puppys From Thou Then ,For The Pictures, If You Think It Is Just A Kid? and what are pocket beagles?

[Rose's Gal]

Pocket Beagles are like "teacup Chis". Just a really really small, really really unhealthy Beagle. I doubt they are even purebred. I was looking at their French Bulldog puppies....those don't look like responsibly bred Frenchies to me. :mad:
I live in IN, and I hope you can find something Julie. I'd like to know where they are located too.

[Fran27]

Their 'toy cockers' are 8 lbs :(

[poeluvr]

o so its bad having teacup dogs? didnt know cuz at one point i wanted one

[SandStone_Kennels]

Julie, i tried the same. But it didn't work. If you get a reply, post it here. k? They say that they can register the dogs for another extra ?$$. Don't you have to be a registered breeder to register your pups you bred? I think so. It says know where that they are registered breeders. Anywat, I'm gonna have to leave this little thing to you guys till im back on Sunday. I'm taking a holiday down south. Yay! lol. Can someone try contacting the canine assoc. in Indiana? Thats if you find more evidence. All well, i gotta leave now. Its a 3-4 hour drive.

Bye
Goodluck!

[bubbatd]

I'm sending in Sleuth #1 ....elinhunter !

[showpug]

Sorry if I am repeating what has already been said, but just had surgery yesterday and I don't have the energy to read the whole thread, but wanted to comment. I bet this website does not sell any puppies, it's just another "western union" money scam IMO :mad:

[juliefurry]

Probably is Showpug, seeing as someone has been scammed by these people already. They sent in their nonrefundable down payment and never received a puppy and never heard from the lady either. I'll try to figure out how to contact the Indiana canine association (because that is where I live) but if she's not really selling the pups that would be a load off my mind. I mean it sucks these people got their money taken but atleast poor dogs aren't suffering.

[Renee750il]

Actually, if they are "selling" puppies but just taking deposits and never delivering, most states have a criminal statute against obtaining money under false pretenses. AND, if they take money through the mail for pups that aren't delivered - or don't exist - it suddenly becomes a federal case, as they've used the U.S. Postal Service to facilitate the scam. Fed time . . .

[juliefurry]

Still no word back from this "breeder" yet. I am anxious to find out what is going on. Either way these people are doing something not right.

[Rose's Gal]

o so its bad having teacup dogs? didnt know cuz at one point i wanted one
Well, Teacup dogs are just really really really small versions of the breed. THey are normally really unhealthy, and no responsible breeder would breed them. They don't follow the breed standard, and are normally just a money making ploy of Puppymills and BYBs.

[showpug]

Anything that request money via Western Union is generally a scam. I put my guinea pigs online in hopes to find them a home and I got some vet out of Africa wanting to send me $3000 and I was to return the rest via Western Union. It's a scam...anytime someone wants to use Western Union, it should be a red flag.

[coopers_girl]

i was scammed by this woman. she stole my $150 deposit. she and her husband, Sam, shut down their website and opened a new one, http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/uid/93248.aspx
I am trying to get a new phone # for her because the ones she provided me with are now disconnected. I was going to contact her on the website above but she knows my e-mail address and it would just alert her to shut down this site and open up a new one. I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the District Attorney in IN. If anyone can make contact with her and get as much info out of her as possible, I would be forever grateful. You can e-mail me at aholick73@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Amanda

[yuckaduck]

i was scammed by this woman. she stole my $150 deposit. she and her husband, Sam, shut down their website and opened a new one, http://www.nextdaypets.com/directory/dogs/uid/93248.aspx
I am trying to get a new phone # for her because the ones she provided me with are now disconnected. I was going to contact her on the website above but she knows my e-mail address and it would just alert her to shut down this site and open up a new one. I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the District Attorney in IN. If anyone can make contact with her and get as much info out of her as possible, I would be forever grateful. You can e-mail me at aholick73@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Amanda

I can email and pretend to be interested in a pup tell me what you want to know and I will try and find out as much as I can. I will not pass any money along though, but if you want me to email them not a problem anything to help shut down these puppy mill, scamming scum. PM me or email me augerheather@yahoo.ca and I would be happy to help.

[zurrix]

I cant believe i got away with getting my puppy from this woman..the more i search on her the more i find she has scammed someone.. and i searched on this lady a year ago and found nothing! heres what i wrote on a different forum about my experience with her...

Well, I have learned alot since dealing with this person...she was weird from the beginning so i kept our emails. I also have paperwork that i havent fully read through but my vet did..i guess it was ok. I have my receipt for the western union deposit and a phone # plus p.o box which im guessing doesnt work anymore. She went by the name Tammy Gilchrist. I sent 150.00 for a deposit on a "pocket beagle" and was told non refundable and would be 8 wks untill pickup. I told her i would call before i traveled because i had a 4 hour drive to cloverdale. Sometimes her emails were nice and sometimes she was in a bad mood or something. My vet says a pocket beagle is actually a beagle runt by the way. Anyway, i traveled with my family to cloverdale expecting to call her when i got close and she would give me her address...i asked why not give it now before i leave but quickly changed subject. So, i called when close and she said to meat her at a gas station off the highway!! OK! We did...and waited 2 hours! Finally my husband was able to contact a man at the number who seemed sympathetic while i yelled in the background i want my dog and i have kids here waiting! She was heard in the background yelling they can wait longer!! I have dishes to do! We waited for her t do dishes and were deciding whether to go home when finally she arrived with her daughter and the puppy. She said she was out of county??? Whatever that means...I got my puppy...she gave me medicine for the long trip...he had a cough which the vet said was from stress..it went away. He also had little bugs or something in his feces which comes from usually puppy mill invironments..my vet said. Hes 1 yr old now and healthy..but what an ordeal with her. My husband even said back then ..i wonder how other people deal with her. Thanks god i got my puppy though.. i feel lucky now!

[skyhigh]

Thats probably why she didn't want you to meet her and her house so you couldn't see the mill. If anyone has any info on either you being scammed or know someone else, can you please email.. tamiami@northcc.net
She's getting as muich info to go to court about this case

Thanks

[bubbatd]

I'd forgotten about this post !!! I'm passing it on to my daughter who since the 1st post is now with the Indiana State Att. Gen.

[skyhigh]

It was realy weird. These two people emailed me on the same day asking for info about her. They both claimed they had bought a puppy from her but not recieved one. Bit weird. thats why i wrote post #34

[lilmtude2u]

Just from some info I have gotten lately about this woman, I believe she is watching these posts. I will not hide from her! I have been able to obtain some more recent info on her, her new web site names, her alias kennel names, etc. However, her phone number she is listing is fake. I have contacted the owner of a rescue group I work with, and am waiting to here back from them, to see if they can help get something done. I also live in Indiana. In several ads she placed, she claimed to live in Qunot, IN. There is no such place. She is now claiming to live in Indianapolis. I am going to be making contact with a conservation officer to see if they can help, as they do not need a warrent to enter a property. This will be difficult, as her p.o. box is a fake to. Fortunantly, when you sign up for an online account, email address, etc. you must provide a valid address. Hopefully, this will help. If anyone else has any info, please send contact me through this site, and I will pass it on to the rescue group, as well as the conservation officer.

[bubbatd]

Please pm me any info that I can look into !!! EliN and I will get into this....

[skyhigh]

*Pick up my magnifine class and start searching.
I cant believe people like this. Anyone know her user name from this site?

[moe]

You can report this as internet fraud, if they are offering a service/product and not delivering after payment it is fraud, you will have to do a google for the fraud department for your own country,

Mo

[lilmtude2u]

Any new info???

[lilmtude2u]

OK, FINALLY!!! We have made contact with a sherriffs department that is taking this case. I have contact info for anyone who needs it. IF YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED, OR RECEIVED A PUPPY FROM THIS WOMAN...CONTACT ME! I will forward you the info through private messege!

[sandradavis25]

I started investigating this person after reading another thread on Chazhound. I can't believe it. Yorkielover, can you post what you find out? We'd love to hear it. If we get some proof maybe we can get them reported or something. People are loosing money from this scam. I wouldn't buy fom one of these places any way. I wouldn't feel secure if i payed a deposit without seeing the pup. I'll see what i can come up with. Maybe contact the canine assoc. in that area to have a look. Anyone live in Indiana?
I have been to Tammy Workman's house and can tell everything that i've seen I bought a boston terrier pup from her for 300.00 and she was very sick when we got home so i took her to the vet to find out what was wrong and she had canine influenza and she is getting better but it has been a long hard road for her and i want to help get her closed down and to get justice for what she has put these animals and the people through she needs to be put in jail where she will never get to sell or over breed another dog for the rest of her life if you want more info from her email me at sandradavis25@earthlink.net i will be happy to help anyone on this sight that has been scammed by her. I now right where she lives and will show anyone who wants to know. thanks for letting everyone know that they are not the only one to be took by this woman. sandra she is under investigation right now from the channel 6 news and from the attorney generals office and i live in Indiana and is about an hour an half away let me help if i can i have seen where the dogs live and where she lives so i have alot of info.

[girlbuffalo1]

Where is she in Indiana--I am in Lafayette and had looked contacted some people in the Indy Star about some puppies a couple of times and there were problems both times..maybe the same person?

[Tobysmom]

here is an article about her.

http://www.theindychannel.com/call6/7621245/detail.html

[Pocketpuggle1]

sorry

[bubbatd]

For what ???? My daughter is a Deputy Att. Gen under Steve Carter and helped shut this down !! Her case was basically over a female Golden that was being bred , but not owned by her. She said the whole operation was disgusting !! She went mainly on the Golden case and ended up giving water and love to all the others .

[LabBreeder]

There are crap loads of people that have been scammed by her (how? I don't know.). There are newspaper articles talking about her and how she's been shut down numerous times. BTW, the site that the OP listed is no longer available. She switches sites all the time because the cops are (supposedly) tracking her down and trying to make her stop.