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MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 04:15 AM
My husband and I are looking to get another dachshund. We are looking to purchase from a reputable breeder the only problem is we are not having any luck finding one.

Is there a place that we can go to review breeders? How do we go about finding a reputable place to get a puppy?

Thanks!

Spirit2010
10-13-2007, 08:04 AM
akc.org. might be a good one to go to. ;) Possibly. Hope you find what your looking for!! :D Thats where I go sometimes, but not always. I just happened to be on the website, and looking for clubs I could possibly join. Good luck!!!

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 08:45 AM
Ooo, I'll see if I can find one, check out the Dachshund Club of America page and see if they have any breeders near you first though.

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 09:04 AM
I'm having a very hard time finding any decent ones. Are you willing to get one out of state and go get him or have him shipped? If so then what states are you willing to get from?

mrose_s
10-13-2007, 09:35 AM
Good luck. I'm looking at cat breeders atm, I have already picked out my british shorthair breeder and have even met her once but am now looking at Maine Coons and Burmese's aswell. Found a red tabby girl on a site I was looking at, gorgeous colour... off topic.

Show's might be another good place to look.

Boemy
10-13-2007, 10:07 AM
Good for you for thinking about this ahead of time instead of going to a pet store or backyard breeder! :)

I would check the Daschund Kennel Club of America (google for it, it should come up) and see if they have a list of breeders in your area. If there are any dog shows in your area, you can attend and maybe get familiar with some of the show-ers who have daschunds.

Fran27
10-13-2007, 10:08 AM
I would try dog shows, it's your best bet.

Lilavati
10-13-2007, 10:10 AM
Depends on your definition of reputable . . . the breed club is a good idea. I'd also search the internet, looking for personal webpages or breeder listings, then give those nearby a call and see what they have to say. (Check the place out in person though!) Check out the newspaper too as well. In my experience, there are perfectly good breeders who will advertise a litter in the paper . . .just expect the third-degree when you go to see the puppies!

Of course, if you are of the reputable breeders have waiting lists and don't advertise school of thought . . . your only real options are the breed club or going to speciality shows . . .which also work . . .

And don't forget to hit the rescues!!

Dekka
10-13-2007, 10:13 AM
Just from my exp. Many (not all, but many) show people are not the best. I know in a few breeds where the top breeders breed dogs that are known carriers of diseases, but as the progeny wins..they keep doing it. The problem is, they don't tell you (well some will if you ask outright) You have to be in the loop to know, which is hard if you aren't really involved. I would look for a breeder whos pups do more than just conformation/pet. Many people who look for a breeder when getting performance dogs, want good structure, health, and temperment..the whole package. And many of them are 'in the loop' so know who to avoid.

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 10:24 AM
I would look for a breeder whos pups do more than just conformation/pet.

That's a good idea, what sorts of things would you look for Dachshund breeders to do? Like were you thinking the earth dog trials?

Zoom
10-13-2007, 10:30 AM
You can usually have a decent time, at least as a place to get started from, by writing the parent breed club and asking for a list of Code of Ethics breeders in your area. Be sure that you know what issues plauge your breed so you can ask the breeder directly; many times all you get is a phone number and have to do a lot over the phone.

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Gosh, Everyone I find is Miniature Dachshunds it's really quite annoying.

showpug
10-13-2007, 11:17 AM
Gosh, Everyone I find is Miniature Dachshunds it's really quite annoying.

Miniatures are much more common than standards. Which type is the OP looking for?

Zoom
10-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Gosh, Everyone I find is Miniature Dachshunds it's really quite annoying.


I found the same thing back when I was looking at getting a Standard Am. Eskimo. They're almost impossible to find; everyone has evil looking minis.

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Miniatures are much more common than standards. Which type is the OP looking for?

I assumed standard size, perhaps I'm wrong I didn't know minnies were more commonly bred. so when people say they own a Dachshund do they usually mean minnie or standard?

MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 11:57 AM
I'm having a very hard time finding any decent ones. Are you willing to get one out of state and go get him or have him shipped? If so then what states are you willing to get from?

We live in Oklahoma and are willing to drive to Texas, Missouri, and Kansas.

I am willing to pay to have the puppy shipped but as a LAST resort.

MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 12:05 PM
Miniatures are much more common than standards. Which type is the OP looking for?

I guess it would help if I would include all of the information! (I was half asleep when I posted this!)

We are specifically looking for a Mini Choc/Tan smooth haired female.

Living in Oklahoma -- we don't get many shows or anything of that nature. So, my only hope is to go by word of mouth and lots of research!

We do have a few breeders in locally but I'm not impressed at all by any of them. Here is a local one that has what I'm after but meh... http://www.oakmeadowdoxies.com/

MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 12:09 PM
http://users.wildblue.net/2dogslong/2dldog3.html

I sent an email to this lady to 'inquire' and this is what I got back.

Dear Ashley,

Thank you for your inquiry into the little choc/tan female. She is not only cute, she's a sweetie too. There are 3 in the litter - 2 black/tan males (sold) and the little female.

Let me first give you some information about us -

We are a well known and respected breeder located in Power, MT. We breed for conformation, temperament, and health in all our puppies. Every litter is carefully planned to produce quality dogs for pet homes. I do not sell for breeding. Puppies come with a 1 year health guarantee, spay/neuter contract, AKC Limited Registration application and are microchipped. We also have a lifetime return policy on all our dogs. Should you ever for any reason be unable to keep them, they are to come back to me. I will evaluate - then place them in another home, or we would keep them ourselves.

All pups have had their first series of shots and have been wormed before going to their new home, no earlier than 8 weeks of age. Health records, showing type of vaccine/meds used, along with dates given, come with the puppy as do food, toys, treats, a special puppy Hug-a-dog harness, (www.dachshunddelights.com ) leash, booklets on care and a blanket. Buying from a reputable breeder ensures you have a knowledgeable person to contact anytime after the sale should you have questions of any kind.

The smooth female is $750; shipping is additional, and runs around $235, which includes airfare, crate & vet health certificate. I generally ship via Delta.

A telephone interview is required, as there are many questions on both sides better answered via phone than email as I'm sure you agree. Having 2 doxies of your own, you know the breed, and love them!

Thank you for your inquiry - I hope to visit with you soon, and answer any additional questions you have about these puppies.


What do you think?

adojrts
10-13-2007, 12:28 PM
Before looking for a breeder, I would do an extensive search on the health issues of the breed and get educated. THEN I would start inquiring breeders as to what health tests (genetic) that they do etc. No breed is free of inherited conditions etc.

Lynn

Zoom
10-13-2007, 12:39 PM
I would grill them as to exactly what sort of health testing they do. I would also be very careful, since it sounds like they only breed for pets. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, but I think it requires some extra vigilence. Do they themselves show? Do they plan their litters to coincide with needing a new puppy themselves, or are they only "filling demand"?

Here's the breeder referral contact I found: Vicky Spencer: lorindol@roadrunner.com , so if that one breeder you found doesn't turn out to be so great, maybe you can find more leads through Vicky.

MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 12:58 PM
Before looking for a breeder, I would do an extensive search on the health issues of the breed and get educated. THEN I would start inquiring breeders as to what health tests (genetic) that they do etc. No breed is free of inherited conditions etc.

Lynn

I am educated on the breed and what to expect when it comes to health problems as I own two dachshunds already.

MisssAshby
10-13-2007, 01:00 PM
I would grill them as to exactly what sort of health testing they do. I would also be very careful, since it sounds like they only breed for pets. Not that this is necessarily a bad thing, but I think it requires some extra vigilence. Do they themselves show? Do they plan their litters to coincide with needing a new puppy themselves, or are they only "filling demand"?

Here's the breeder referral contact I found: Vicky Spencer: lorindol@roadrunner.com , so if that one breeder you found doesn't turn out to be so great, maybe you can find more leads through Vicky.

Thanks.

I was going to talk with my husband later and if he had an interest I might give her a call.

Does Vicky breed Dachshunds? Does she have a website?

Thanks for everyones help!

adojrts
10-13-2007, 01:22 PM
I am educated on the breed and what to expect when it comes to health problems as I own two dachshunds already.

I have never researched the breed, what are the issues, which one do breeders test for?

Thanks
Lynn

Fran27
10-13-2007, 02:01 PM
I think the two breeders you mentioned look like backyard breeders to me :(

http://www.oakmeadowdoxies.com/ : no mention of showing or health testing at all. Plus four litters in 3 months? Ugh!!! 48 hour health garantie :rolleyes: Horrible.

For http://users.wildblue.net/2dogslong/2dldog3.html and their comment... They only breed for pet quality - HUGE red flag. They breed for temperament/health/conformation, but there's no mention whatsoever of any health testing, showing or temperament testing. 1 year health guarantee = bad. Genetic issues typically show up much later than that. And they call themselves reputable? What a joke.

Don't walk, run away from that kind of breeder. You won't pay more for a well bred puppy.

Dekka
10-13-2007, 02:58 PM
Doxies do earth dog, but also obedience/rally and agility too. I would look for a few titles in something. If you have any local dog shows that have obed, or rally (even agility, thought they are not a common agility dog) Go and see if anyone has one, then ask where they got their dog (if you like it) Same with earth dog trials.

Maxy24
10-13-2007, 03:32 PM
here is one, these ones might actually be standard though, I'm not sure...

in MO, I didn't look through the entire site but from what I gather they health test and hunt with their dogs(Though the giant e-collar put me off I guess it's a hunting thing): http://www.eridox.com/

adojrts
10-13-2007, 03:58 PM
here is one, these ones might actually be standard though, I'm not sure...

in MO, I didn't look through the entire site but from what I gather they health test and hunt with their dogs(Though the giant e-collar put me off I guess it's a hunting thing): http://www.eridox.com/


This is a breeder I would have a close look at, I like the fact that they don't breed a bunch, do testing and have lots of info on their site. From a quick look I would give them a high rating at this point. Although I prefer a dog CERF'd within 6 months of being bred.............just in case.

sheepjoke
10-13-2007, 07:52 PM
go to the dachshund club of america. start there know what questions to ask. not all show breeders are reputable, but my opinoin is all reputable breeders show dogs or compete in other events to prove the dog is worthy of breeding.


avoid anyone with a "pair" of dogs that "only breed once a year" and don't show or know the standard and breed to sell puppies, instead of breeding to better the breed and for them to hopefully get a show dog to carry on the breeding program.

avoid pet stores, of course.



avoid anyone who gives a health guarantee that requires the return of the dog. This is a loophole insuring they wont likely have to honor their guarantee since you will love the dog and not want to give it back.



ask about back problems in the breed, and especially in the breeders lines. yes, weak backs prone to issues are hereditary to an extent. If they don't know what is behind their dogs two, three, four generations back, find another breeder.if they dont care what you do w/ the dog once you buy it, ie, full papers and dont make you sign a spay/neuter agreement or a show contract, they are not a reputable breeder.if you are in a hurry to purchase a puppy then you will lilkely be willing to settle for something not well bred. so do not be in a firestorm to buy a puppy take youre time and find the right breeder and the right puppie will come along.





sheepjoke

summitview
10-13-2007, 08:30 PM
Don't settle for anything less than a lifetime health guarantee. And find someone who requires to meet you in person and preferably do a home check. Find someone with proven (show/work) dogs that live in the house as pets (and make sure there aren't too many of them). Find someone who doesn't breed often. You want someone who has paper proof of breed specific health testing ready and willing to share. Finding a truly ethical breed is hard. Good luck.

sheepjoke
10-17-2007, 12:37 PM
a lifetime guarantee is ridiculous if you think it is so important why dont you try to find a daxie breeder who offers that that you consider reputable and also the contract must be one w/o the loophole of getting the defective dog back to the breeder. heck anyone can offer a lifetime guarantee if they know they will never have to honor it all they have to say is 'yes ,i will have to have fifi back and i will put her to sleep and you can have another puppy'. now do you think that they will give fifi back to the breeder? no. loophole. lifetime guarantees are ridiculous. i dont guarantee against old age issues that a vet or owner could call 'genetic'.

there are a lot of responsibel breeders of doxies you can find one but you have to be realistic most dont health test but know thei rlines and the longevity and health that is a fact they tried to to the DNA PRA test here but the test diod not work on the dogs in the US, who were testing as "afflicted" for PRA but passed a CERF exam at age 12 or older! some do cerf eyes and maybe patellas but the main issue would be epilepsy and backs and there is no test for that, you juwt have to find a breeder who knows the generations in their dogs and what is there.


again most pet people do not want a 'working temperament' dog so i think that is a bad route to go unless they plan on working the dog themselves and plan on a very busy temperament and thats putting it mildly. living in the house is nice but not always necessary dogs like to be dogs not people that is a people perception there are a lot of nice kennels who have great socialized healthy puppies and who rotate house dogs occasionally. go to the doxie club of america, and see what health testing they recommend...it aint much if any and they are the club to start looking for a breeder. judge the breeder by their dogs and knowledge and environment not by someone elses standards of what is righ tand fwrong for a breeder.




sheepjoke

SummerRiot
10-17-2007, 10:41 PM
You wont find a life time guaruntee from a good breeder.

After about the age of 5yrs, the dogs health is usually dependant on the owners way of raising them.

Smoking, environment, location, exercise, lifestyle all play into how a dog lives..