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Gempress
09-12-2007, 05:28 PM
GREAT article on the danger of buying puppies online, and a few things to look for when looking for a puppy on the Internet.
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/103458/Scammers-Fetch-Online-Puppy-Buyers
Sapphire-Light
09-12-2007, 06:41 PM
That's a good article.
But some people can have a really hard time finding a breeder where they live and they don't have too many options so they have to import.
A good sugestion is to not rush, scammer are generaly impatient.
Askin many questions to the breeder, make shure that the breeder shows, and search in the net for references, results in dog shows. etc.
Xerxes
09-12-2007, 06:48 PM
I know that in my particular case, I found my breeder online. I searched and searched and searched to find several and then corresponded with them until I found the one that was the most critical of me, a first time owner.
Why the one that was the most critical and demanding? Because I knew she cared about her pups. I knew and still know that buying a puppy from a breeder should be about the pup but also about getting a mentor, and creating a trust.
My first point of action if I'm looking for a breeder is to search for the breed club. Get into contact with the secretary or another officer of that club and start learning about the breed. See if you can arrange meet and greets. It's too easy to be bamboozled by emails. Much harder to be bamboozled when you meet one or two or three breeders and their dogs. JMO
Boemy
09-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Oh man, I had SO many e-mails trying to pull the wire fraud scam on me when I tried to rehome a stray cat on Petfinder. (Individuals can try to rehome through Petfinder's classifieds section, which is separate from the shelter section with the pictures.) A popular one was that people were "Christian missionaries" in one country or another, but the "best" one was the one that refered to the cat as a dog. :rolleyes: All of them wanted me to ship the cat through a third party shipper. I shudder to think what might have happened to kitty if she'd gone off to any of those people! Probably they'd have just tossed her out on the street. :mad:
That said, you CAN find out some valuable information online . . . If a breeder gives the full names of their dogs, you can check on the OFA website for their results, correct?
bubbatd
09-12-2007, 08:35 PM
I have always been leary of " wonderful " breeding sites !! To me word of mouth and through breed clubs are so much safer !!! As a breeder I never advertised !!!
SummerRiot
09-12-2007, 10:05 PM
I do like the word of mouth for a good quality breeder - BUT that is mainly for people who know where to look.
SOMETIMES if you look onto the kennel club website they have a list of respectible breeders.. BUT you still need to do your research.
bubbatd
09-12-2007, 10:13 PM
^^^^^ defiantly agree !!! When NashNSegersmom was searching for a good Golden breeder , she went though our Indiana Club and finally found Seger through them in Ohio . Still much research as the litter wasn't even conceived yet ! Takes time to find the right one .
Sapphire-Light
09-12-2007, 10:20 PM
^^^^^ defiantly agree !!! When NashNSegersmom was searching for a good Golden breeder , she went though our Indiana Club and finally found Seger through them in Ohio . Still much research as the litter wasn't even conceived yet ! Takes time to find the right one .
Yes it takes a lot of time.
I'm asking a lot of questions on the possible breeders, I'm making contacts right now.
Some of them are out, now they messed up :spam:
MelissaCato
09-13-2007, 09:05 AM
Interesting how everyone looks for a reputable breeder first.
I on the other hand researched bloodlines, breedings and visuals of the dam and sir and what ever greats and grands available to me. Whom ever was the owner of my selected sir was my start to find a daughter of that sir. For Granduer it took 3 years till I was satisfied on the dam to compliment him for my goals. It was a long wait but well worth it. I purchased 2 other dogs in the 3 year wait.
Sara was bought outright on site, I choose the best puppy characteristics out of 23 ACD's in the bed of a truck. She turned out to be one of the best dogs I ever had the pleasure to train and own.
Falcon, he was different, when I went researching for a CC. I decided to find a breeder who bred solid colored puppies. That was my goal. I wanted to see the spots apear out of nowheres. :D With Falcon I just wanted a beautiful dog and his goal the MACH title.
Needless to say, I should have kept my mouth shut on the internet about my new puppy. If I would have.. he'd be here today. :(
J's crew
09-13-2007, 10:51 AM
Falcon, he was different, when I went researching for a CC. I decided to find a breeder who bred solid colored puppies. That was my goal. I wanted to see the spots apear out of nowheres. :D With Falcon I just wanted a beautiful dog and his goal the MACH title.
Needless to say, I should have kept my mouth shut on the internet about my new puppy. If I would have.. he'd be here today. :(
What in the world are you talking about? :confused: How would your CC still be here if you had not talked about him on the internet. Wasn't he killed by a stray dog......the same one who killed your cat?
Why do you go from forum to forum lying about things?
MelissaCato
09-13-2007, 01:51 PM
It's no lie J's Crew. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Blaaaaaaa !!
Wasn't he killed by a stray dog......the same one who killed your cat?
The owner of the "stray" was a (BBC) forum poster, living miles away from me.
Don't get me started.
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/448880
I found Eve's breeder via the internet, and to be perfectly honest, I couldn't be happier with my dog or with her breeder. I don't feel like I bought a dog "over the internet", even though 99% of our communication prior to me flying to NC was through e-mail. I could've gotten a dog locally, but it wouldn't have been exactly the dog I wanted. Eve is exactly what I wanted, and not only did I get this amazing dog, I got a relationship with her breeder, who has been very supportive and shared a wealth of knowledge with me.
If you know the lines your dog is coming from, if you trust the breeder and their experience, and you like the puppy you're going to recieve, then what does it matter if the breeder was found on the internet?
Bahamutt99
09-13-2007, 02:48 PM
IMO, the 'net is one of the best ways to find the right breeder anywhere in the country. I'll be honest that I didn't like where the article said "don't be swayed by a replacement" thingy in the contract, because only the decent breeders are going to offer to make it right. Most would simply leave the new owner hanging.
showpug
09-13-2007, 02:49 PM
I found Eve's breeder via the internet, and to be perfectly honest, I couldn't be happier with my dog or with her breeder. I don't feel like I bought a dog "over the internet", even though 99% of our communication prior to me flying to NC was through e-mail. I could've gotten a dog locally, but it wouldn't have been exactly the dog I wanted. Eve is exactly what I wanted, and not only did I get this amazing dog, I got a relationship with her breeder, who has been very supportive and shared a wealth of knowledge with me.
If you know the lines your dog is coming from, if you trust the breeder and their experience, and you like the puppy you're going to recieve, then what does it matter if the breeder was found on the internet?
I couldn't agree more! If you know how to look for a breeder then it doesn't matter if it's over the net or in person. Knowing what questions to ask and information to look for is key.
I found Mona's breeder through the national Bulldog Club online and couldn't be happier with my dog, her health and overall temperament. I am still in contact with her breeder regularly even though I have never met her in person.
The only problem I have with online dog searches and purchases is when a person finds a cute puppy on a website, does no research and just clicks the "pay now" button and uses a credit card! :yikes:
RedyreRottweilers
09-13-2007, 03:17 PM
It's no lie J's Crew. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Blaaaaaaa !!
The owner of the "stray" was a (BBC) forum poster, living miles away from me.
Don't get me started.
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/448880
How do you know who owned the dog? You had a cat killed, you knew there was a dog at large, yet you let out a defenseless little CC puppy to get mauled to death by it? How do you blame someone else for that?
:rolleyes:
MelissaCato
09-13-2007, 03:47 PM
How do you know who owned the dog? You had a cat killed, you knew there was a dog at large, yet you let out a defenseless little CC puppy to get mauled to death by it? How do you blame someone else for that?
:rolleyes:
Looks like the cronies are regrouping.
J's crew
09-13-2007, 04:52 PM
Looks like the cronies are regrouping.
If you would, please PM me the name of the member at BBC.
The reason I have a hard time believing you is because of all the lies you were caught in over at BBC. Undeniable proof.
RedyreRottweilers
09-13-2007, 07:47 PM
neeeeeeever mind.....
:D
bubbatd
09-13-2007, 08:15 PM
I believe that this was Gempress's thread .... may we please get back to it ???
Sapphire-Light
09-13-2007, 10:56 PM
IMO, the 'net is one of the best ways to find the right breeder anywhere in the country. I'll be honest that I didn't like where the article said "don't be swayed by a replacement" thingy in the contract, because only the decent breeders are going to offer to make it right. Most would simply leave the new owner hanging.
Agree, if you are goin to pay a lot of money in your new friend, you need to have a guarantee, what is true is that some bad breeders and puppy millers use guarantees as a bait to attrack the more customers.
If a puppy miller give you a dog and this one dies 'cause to they negligence the facts are you are goin to get another badly breed and possible sick dog.