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Ok. So ONE of my dogs has been pooping in the house. I thought it was just a sick tummy the first time but it's happened about four times in the same place. I think it's Nanook. Mav was outside most of the night and Mikey woke me up with a cold nose and I let him out to potty and watched him go.
The yucky details. The poop starts out hard and ends up in a puddle on top. Tells me whoever is doing it is nervous about it.
Waaahhhh. I don't want to deal with house training. I do have a baby gate that I can you to section off that small part of the house where she? goes. I don't know if she would just find somewhere else to go or not. Maybe I'd have a better chance of catching her....
What to do. What to do....
I'm not going to consider training her in a crate.
gaddylovesdogs
05-19-2005, 01:20 PM
How many times does she go out every day?
Why are you against crate-training? My dogs are all crate-trained and two of them sleep in crates at night. They absolutely love their crates. They nap there are all the time.
I'm not against crate training per se I just don't think is overrated and isn't always necessary and for my situation it won't work.
She spends most of the day outside and I feed her in early evening and then she goes back outside (and inside and outside...) for hours. Until I go to bed.
Doberluv
05-19-2005, 07:16 PM
Waaahhhh. I don't want to deal with house training.
Well then....I guess you'll end up dealing with poop/pee in the house, if the dogs will be in the house. I don't see any other way, sorry to say.
Well then....I guess you'll end up dealing with poop/pee in the house, if the dogs will be in the house. I don't see any other way, sorry to say.
I didn't say I WON'T deal with it. :rolleyes: I said I don't want to. Big difference.
Doberluv
05-19-2005, 09:49 PM
ROFLOL!!!!! I hear ya! I know what you mean. It is definitely a pain. I've been thinking...about.....if I ever get another dog, I will definitely consider a rescue...older dog. I think I'm getting too old to deal with puppies anymore. LOL. They are a major chore, aren't they.
Well, I wish I knew what to say to help you. I found the crate training the most effective, by far. I suppose you could use a confined area and train too. But they do need to be inside enough that they get the idea. I wish you the very best. I know how awful it is when they goof up. (or we do)
Lyric has a huge quantity when he would mess up. One time, I was gone and he was in his crate. He was a rather large pup at this time. I came home very late..1 or 2 in the a.m....after a wooptie doo time out on the town....beer, pool, dancing. AND OMG!!! What a disaster! He had diarrhea in his crate and then when I let him out, he tracked it all over the house. It was on the walls, floor....everywhere. I was up till 4 a.m. shampooing my carpet, washing walls, floors etc. (half buzzed) That carpet shampooer has been a God send...well worth the $$$$. So, I feel for anyone with a house breaking thing going on.
Nanook's not a puppy really. Puppies and crazy! but she's probably a year old. She's been fine in the house. Emma suggested it might be a hookworm problem so I guess I'll have to check into that. Worms. Yuck. :eek:
She only recently started making messes. If it is her. I think maybe she just doesn't know how to wake me up for a potty break.
I'm going to look into the worms thing.
Doberluv
05-20-2005, 10:26 AM
Oh, I hope she's OK. Yeah....that's weird that she's been fine all along and now.....hmmm. Well, let us know what you find out. Good luck!
gaddylovesdogs
05-20-2005, 12:15 PM
I'm not against crate training per se I just don't think is overrated and isn't always necessary and for my situation it won't work.
I'm not saying crate training is the only option, and some people DO use it too much, but it can be a real help with housetraining.
showpug
05-20-2005, 12:49 PM
I would first take her stool sample to your vet. This really sounds like a parasite problem to me. If she is free and clear then I would use a crate for a little while. I know you are against it, but it WILL solve your problem if it is indeed behavioral and NOT medical. Dogs won't poop on themselves in a crate or in the area they are sleeping. If they do, it usually means there is something else wrong. My dogs adore their crates and I sware by them :)
Again, crate training is not the only option. If it is behavioural I'll teach her to use a bell when she wants to go outside. Steve and I both think she just doesn't know how to tell us when she needs to go. But we'll check out health things as well.
showpug
05-20-2005, 01:06 PM
Oh, has she been having these accidents all along? I thought this just started happening :confused:
gaddylovesdogs
05-20-2005, 01:24 PM
Again, crate training is not the only option.
I never said it was. BUT anyways, that's OT.
My girls go to the back door if they need to go out, or if they REALLY need to go, they come up to me and let me know. Bell training would be a good idea. Do you watch for signs? Does she get praise when she goes to the bathroom in the right place?
She only does this while we are sleeping. The other dogs wake us up with a cold nose but she doesn't and never has done that.
And I know that you never said it was the only option. I wasn't referring to you.
gaddylovesdogs
05-20-2005, 01:29 PM
I would try getting up during the night once or twice to let her out....not the best option, though :p. It could be a health thing, of course.
Actually, I usually do. Maverick and Mikey usually come in and out during the night. Especially Mikey. If he has to go I'll let him out and then he has to come back in or he whines and scratches at the door and is just the saddest dog. Maverick usually chooses to sleep outside which I don't mind. I'd rather he sleeps inside but he gets hot and restless and I usually end up putting him out at 3am if he does sleep inside.
avenlee
05-20-2005, 01:43 PM
Sometimes I've found that dogs will insistantly not follow the rules or training to tell you something is wrong. They feel that is the way to tell you in some sorts? You should maybe get him checked on.
Hope everything gets better !
Thanks Avenlee. There have been a lot of changes at home that I don't want to get into on the boards but Renee (and I) were thinking that wouldn't help. This started before these changes but I'm sure it didn't make anything better. They can be so sensitive.
avenlee
05-20-2005, 02:47 PM
They surely can! And its like I've had friends that have gotten divorced and think thier younger kids don't really know and its like "Kids are smarter than what you think they are and they do realize the environment around them." Even before something 'erupts' I think animals are more aware of tensions in the household or surroundings way before we even notice it.
I don't like crates.......that's just me. I think little dogs do well in them, but I don't like them for bigger dogs. I have a friend that crates her 2 yellow labs for hours...NOPE, don't like it, never will. Bet Nanook just isn't feeling well....oh, you know, nothing serious (altho I know you are checking for worms) and is having a lapse. I wouldn't fret about it....she will get the hang of letting you know. :)
Thanks you guys. This morning I think I 'caught her' she was in that area and sniffing around. I didn't really see her doing anything but I just called her over and put them all outside. She's always nervous about getting into trouble. Sometimes if I call her she runs the other way and looks at me warily so I get down to her height and then she happily comes over. Someone must have treated her bad. :(
bubbatd
05-20-2005, 08:47 PM
Saje, could this be an emotional issue ??? My dogs have only had " accidents" during the night when they are upset about family
"issues"...doggy or human. Unfortunately these " accidents" have been really spread starting firm to trails of loose. Showing they are upset that they are doing this.
Yeah. I think it could be. I'm looking into it. Spending lots of time with her. She seems to be generally a worried dog so I'm sure she's quite sensitive. They all are aren't they! :)
CreatureTeacher
05-21-2005, 11:56 AM
Any updates on Nanook's check-up, Saje? It's always best to eliminate something that could be going wrong physically before you move into the behavioral side of things.
I wouldn't recommend a crate in Nanook's case anyway. Dogs bred for endurance shouldn't be kept confined all night, and I would be concerned that with her thick coat she could get much too warm if trapped in a plastic crate (as opposed to an open-air wire crate). It also occurs to me that this is not necessarily strictly a potty-training problem, since she is potty-trained after all. You've said over and over what a sensitive pooch she is, and I wouldn't want her learning house training at the expense of developing some other behavioral issue. I provide crates for all my dogs, but none of them even have doors attached. A crate can be a lovely little "den" where dogs can take some Me-Time, but I've never closed one of my dogs in unless we were taking a long car ride. As with anything, there are a number of ways to train a behavior, and they all work. But I'd rather teach my dogs to tell me when they need to potty, rather than just forcing them to hold it until I'm good and ready to haul my butt out of bed. :)
Training to a bell is never a bad idea. It's one of my favorites. But try not to push her too hard, or she may just get worse. I think you're doing an awesome job, Saje!!
Thanks Emma. That makes me feel better. You've posted before about training with a bell haven't you? I'll look for it.
Nothing on the vet check. I haven't taken her yet. My paper is ... dying. Things are really tight. I think I may have to borrow $$$ from my parents for it. :(