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Razamataz
05-11-2005, 04:15 PM
ok very new to this forum. i need some advice, quite urgently. i'm sorry if this post is long, but it's a long story.

about a year ago my family adopted a male boxer. his name is Wrigley. he will be 2 in august. when we first got him he was confused and a little scared, and had a few odd habits that led us to believe that his previous home was an aprtment. (his impecable leash training, that he would only go to the bathroom on pavement, that he hated being outside alone, that he tripped over himself constantly at the full speed run as if he had never done it before... etc.)
somthing else was strange with him too. he hated the crate. loathed it. at first it wasn't too bad. he would shake it around a little and maybe chew on the plastic tray beneath him, and that was all. but slowly he got worse. he started tearing the plastic tray apart. he shook the crate around so bad that he tore paint off the walls, knocked over floor lamps and shelves on the wall. we put him in the basement after he completely destroyed his tray, tore up and ate the blanket that was in there and dragged the crate across the room.
downstairs things got worse. he started eating things that were close enough for him to suck into the crate. he destroyed an entire broom, and ate so many bristles his digestive system was clogged for hours. he sucked a free floating carpet up off the ground and chewed it up to no repair. he started pulling the wires away from the crate, and one day created a hole in the side wide enough for both he and my other dog to stand in.
when he got out of the crate, he started to go beserk when people walked by the house. he chewed the wood on our bay window's panes. he tore apart the wood around the windows in our front door. he tore down drapes and chewed them to shreds. he pulled out an electrical plug that led to our tv system and chewed it up untill all of the black rubber was gone. when we came home it was live. he went after out neighbour twice by figuring out how to open our second front door. he went after and bit (not seriously) my grandmother's husband, but as soon as the man came in the house he became his customary slinky-like puppy, happy to see him as if he had totally forgotten the incedent.
we got him a new, heavier crate, and he promptly ate that plastic tray. he started to drag that one around too, but it was a bit harder. he chewed up a pair of scissors and when i came home i thought someone had tried to kill him for the puddles of blood on the floor beneath his crate. the cuts in and around his mouth took a week to heal. by this time we had taken any free floating items out of the area where he could pull his crate. he chewed a head sized hole in the top of the crate and started chewing the book case that was down there. he pulled books off it and began to eat those. he chewed the small coffe table next to the bookcase, taking down the tin of colored pencils and markers, and eating some of them. we put bricks around his crate in hopes of them stopping him from moving, but he simply tipped the crate over on them and the latches fell, allowing him to escape. he now has figured out how to do it without bricks.

my father is at best a very physical person. he thinks the only way to train a dog is to make sure they feel it. and that means anything from the back of his hand to a speaker that had fallen victim to Wrigley's insane crate action. he is an animal abuser at worst. i have tried my best to protect Wrigley when my father is in a fit of rage. but every day it gets worse. the problem is, he is the last one to leave the house, and therefore, the one who puts wrigley in the crate. yesterday he tied the dog to the bottom with a leash and put his heaviest tool boxes around the crate. wrigley chewed through his own leash and managed to push the lightest of the toolboxes aside so he could tip the crate over again. that same day in one of his mad attemps to get at people in front of my home, he broke a window and cut himself pretty bad. today he used the remainder of the leash to close one latch, and then used bolts and a curved nail with riges on both sides to bolt the crate shut. wrigley managed to unscrew them, tip the crate over and squeze through the bottom send of the door.
needless to say my parents are royally pissed of at him. my dad has threatened everyting from handcuffing him to the crate to chaining him to it, to building one so small he cannot raise his head, to outright killing him. they are simply threats, i know. he would not do it if i told him not to. but my fear of him is great. my mom said tio me the other day that she would not miss him if he had to go. she wasn't lying. my dad may not feel the way she does, but she hates Wrigley for destroying her home. she is angry at me for defending him. today she was so angry that she screamed at me for a few minutes, cursed a few times and then later lost her composure and asked in so many words whose happiness i valued more, a dog's or her own.
as you can see i'm in a bad way. i am looking for any advice anyone can give me. he has a vet appointment the 19th, but i worry that my mother will not wait that long. we have tried putting him in a room, but he chewed the wood from the doorjam and ate alot of my matress, as well as the wood around my window frames and my comfortor. he simply goes mad.
the worst case scenario is that he gets put down on grounds of aggression. second to worse, he goes back to the rescue, and that is what my mom wants to do with him.
if there is anyone i can e-mail, any forum i can visit, any person i can im, anyone who can give me advice, please do.

showpug
05-11-2005, 04:33 PM
I really don't know what to say here. Your story is a bit overwhelming. If your dad can't control his anger and physically hits your dog, it is not right for you to keep the dog!! That is animal abuse and is TOTALLY WRONG. This is a good time to not be selfish and find your dog a home that can care for his special needs and behavioral problems. This may not be the right time in your life to keep and care for a dog. If you can't work hand-in-hand with your vet, trainer, and K9 behaviorist, then your dog may be better off elsewhere. I know it sounds harsh, and I know you love your dog, but I highly doubt that your parents will want to dish out the $ on training etc. for a dog that they can hardley stand. If you absolutley want to keep your dog, I would get a plastic crate (Vari Kennel) brand. They are REALLY tough and enclosed so they can't get their teeth on anything outside of the crate. Place it in an area where ther are NOT objects close by. I would also buy a product call D.A.P Comfort Zone. It is a calming remedy and helps with behavioral problems. You plug it into your wall and it sends out a pheremone that only your dog can smell and calms them. Sounds like your dog has a horrible case of separation anxiety. There is a drug your vet can prescribe for this problem, but that cost $ and most vets wont prescribe it that easily. Good luck and keep us posted. :(

gaddylovesdogs
05-11-2005, 05:15 PM
He has seperation anxiety. Dogs are pack animals, and he doesn't want to be left alone. Some dogs (especially ones with SA) do not like crates AT ALL. The theory is that wild dogs live and dens, therefore domestic dogs have den instinct. This is true for many domestic dogs, but not all. And being put in the basement probably scared him even more, thinking he was so far away from you and that he'd never be let out.

First I think you should invest in some puzzle toys like KONGS (stuff them with food) and I-Qubes. These will keep him busy while your gone. Start leaving him for short periods of time. Start with five minutes. Give him a stuffed kong, turn on the TV, and wait for ten minutes, by the door, not giving him any eye contact and not saying anything to him. After ten minutes, silently leave the house and take a five minute walk. Go up by five minutes every session. Ten minutes, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes, and on and on.

Doberluv
05-11-2005, 08:57 PM
I'm sorry to say, but I agree with Showpug. No matter what a trainer could help with, a dog is still a dog and it will do things that will anger your Dad. Animal abuse is a horrible thing and it almost sounds like this dog already had something wrong in his upbringing. It would be the kindest, most unselfish and right thing to do to take this dog to a rescue center to be adopted out to someone with the resources and patience it would take to give this dog what he needs. I know you love the dog and it probably kills you to see your father treating an already fearful animal with more abuse. Please do consider what is best for the dog.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and my heart goes out to you.

Love4Pits
05-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Sounds like the dog only has problems with the crate why is he ALWAYS in a crate if he is house broken? It doesent make any sicne to me sounds like he needs to go to a home where he is treated a bit better and is being smacked. This is NOT a good situation.

Saje
05-11-2005, 09:09 PM
You can IM me at sharajj@hotmail.com laescritorajj@yahoo.com sharajj@aol.com

It really sounds like that poor dog needs a new home. I'm really sorry. I know it's hard to live with your parents and disagree with them and have no power. Please keep posting or IM me (or pm anyone here)

Saje
05-11-2005, 09:09 PM
Forgot to add that there is no reason to crate train an adult, house broken dog. Throw the crate away!

bubbatd
05-11-2005, 09:29 PM
I agree with all above.....this poor dog needs " A HOME" !!! No crate.

opokki
05-12-2005, 12:22 AM
It sounds to me like your dog has severe seperation anxiety. I'm sorry but I must agree with the others that this dog would probably be better off in another home. Your fathers fits of rage will only increase the dogs anxiety and escalate the problems that you are having. Managing SA can be a lengthy, time consuming process and would probably be most effective in a home where someone is home a majority of the time to work with the dog.

CreatureTeacher
05-12-2005, 09:39 AM
I agree with everyone above. For your dog's sake, it sounds like it's time to break him out of there. I remember what it's like to be powerless against a father. What he's doing to your poor sweet dog is wrong, and you would be Wrigley's angel if you stood up for him and got him out of the situation. As powerless as you feel, think how much more so Wrigley feels. You can't change your father. But you can help someone else you love: Wrigley. He's just being a dog, doing dog things. If he's going to be beaten for doing dog things, then he's not getting the life all dogs deserve.

If you need support or logistical help or anything else, you can PM me here, e-mail me at the address in my signature, or IM me on AOL instant messenger. (My screen name is Mauru22.) You could also think about calling a local rescue or a good dog trainer in your area and enlisting their support. Just explain your situation, and let them know that you're only interested in your dog's happiness and quality of life. If they're good people, they'll help.

Good luck, and please keep us updated. You and Wrigley are in my thoughts.

Renee750il
05-12-2005, 10:04 AM
Please check into finding a Boxer rescue. Breed rescues are often the very best chance a dog can have at getting rehomed after compassionate training. They're also usually very, very good about evaluating the dog's needs and matching it with a home that meets those needs.

Poor Wrigley's only going to get more frantic and worse as the abuse continues. Dogs need to be loved to be happy, and having to live with two people who don't - and especially one who is abusive . . . well, that's not going to allow a dog to have the calm atmosphere necessary for good emotional health.

I'm so terribly, terribly sorry. You must be feeling so lost right now. When parents do things that we know are so horribly wrong they cause so much hurt and harm and so many confused feelings.

The day will come when you don't live under your father's power anymore, and then you'll be a wonderful, loving dog companion - I'm sure of it. Right now, it takes someone very special to do the best thing for their dog, no matter how much it makes your heart ache.

Keep us posted, and know we're in your and Wrigley's corner!

LaurenLou
10-07-2005, 04:21 PM
does anyone know what to do if my dog's toenail fell off?

Saje
10-07-2005, 04:25 PM
This is an old thread from months ago. And you are off topic. You can start a thread in the health care forum on this topic.

Welcome to chaz.