I have a question about breeding mutts.

[Paige]

Why do the so called breeders have to slur the names together to get a name like "Golden Doodle" or "Spandor" or "Snoodle". Sure, it sounds kind of cute but it also sounds extremely immature and not professional. Atleast not to me. If you have a litter of crossbreds you'd like to sell for whatever reason is it really crazy to say "I have 5 lab x poodles for sale"? Does anyone have an answer why they feel the need to use these words? Is it an attempt to make them sound like a breed?

Now don't get me wrong. I love a cute mutt as much as anyone else does though I don't agree with breeding any two random dogs to sell puppies for profit. But common. It sounds silly.

[Cassiepeia]

I believe the answer is 'marketing'. These are just cutsie little catchy names they use to attract uneducated buyers who are attracted to the latest fashion accessory. They're almost brand names now. *sigh*

I find them sickening and cringeworthy myself. A total joke.

Poor dogs though...I have nothing against them at all.

Cass.

[~Jessie~]

^^^ I agree, Cassie. The names really irritate me. It's just so sad.

[vanillasugar]

Some names are just bad! Care for a Schnottie anyone? (I actually saw this in the dog section of the classifieds... several times.)

It makes no sence to me whatsoever.

[shea4]

None of them make any sence to me they give them a cute name so they can mark up the price .

[Paige]

HI. I HAV 18 AMERICAN EAGLE DOGS 4 SALE U SHOULD BUY THEM!
2000 PER PUP LOLLZZZ


It's such a joke.

[mrsgrubby]

Yup, it's all about the marketing!!! Who would pay 2000 for a mutt when they can adopt one at the shelter for $100?

[Sunnierhawk0]

I think the reason they put the 2 names together, is so when they want you to pay $1000 plus for a dog, "goldendoodle" sounds more legit than "mix" or atleast in thier ears it does, and to the unsuspecting pet buyer.

[SisMorphine]

In the past when breeds have been developed for working purposes they were given a new name . . . which had nothing to do with the breeds that went into making the dog, especially since many different breeds would go into the make-up of a new breed, not just two different breeds.

I agree that it's a marketing scheme. These "breeds" were not made for working purposes, they were made for cuteness purposes (many claim they were developed for the purpose of being hypoallergenic which is BS because there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog). So if their only purpose is to be cute, why not give them a sickeningly sweet cutesy name?

IMHO these designer mutts give a bad name to breed development.

[Lizmo]

Yup, it's all about the marketing!!! Who would pay 2000 for a mutt when they can adopt one at the shelter for $100?

I know!

I believe the answer is 'marketing'. These are just cutsie little catchy names they use to attract uneducated buyers who are attracted to the latest fashion accessory. They're almost brand names now. *sigh*


Right, and it's so sad :(

[casablanca1]

Why do the so called breeders have to slur the names together to get a name like "Golden Doodle" or "Spandor" or "Snoodle". Sure, it sounds kind of cute but it also sounds extremely immature

You have to remember, these dogs started out as accidental litters in households that were not, shall we say, sophisticated. They probably thought it was cute to call them 'doodles. Then some of the more cunning varieties of trailer trash figured you could make more money that way, with the whole appeal of 'family' breeds and a cutesy name that implies loving farm wives with a box of puppies behind the stove, and an industry was born.
Now, of course, people have gone full circle and are marketing/purchasing the dogs as if they were AKC show dogs.

[Herschel]

I think part of the name combination is to suggest that the mutt is actually some sort of magical cross that gives the best aspects of two dogs.

For example, it's easy for a breeder to say that his "GoldenDoodles" have the temperaments of Golden Retrievers and the non-shedding coat of Poodles. "Golden Retriever mix" doesn't convey that nearly as well.

[mandym]

I have only just joined this forum and find it very sad that while reading through past posts i came across this rather childish thread about cross breeds.Labradoodles were originally bred for the blind and although some do shed a majority do not making the life of a blind person with allergies much easier.I agree this cross breed craze has got out of hand but i do know several labradoodle and cockapoo breeders.Their dogs are all hip and eye tested and pups all raised in the family home.Homes are vetted and the homes the pups go to are fantastic.There are loads of pedigree dogs that started as croosses,for intance the bichon frise was originally a poodle spaniel cross! I have noticed that a lot of people agiainst these crosses are owners or breeders of pedigree breeds.If you researcg some breeds you will find out how theywere originally bred.I own a cockapoo but breed tibetan terriers so i see the best from both sides,why does everyone feel they have the right to stop another lovely breed appearing.I am totally against people who are in it just for the money but i think everyone should spend more time critisising puppy farmers who breed pedigree breeds but do not care about their welfare.

[noludoru]

All of us posting in this thread are (hopefully) aware that "Labradoodles" were originally bred by a responsible breeder, who put a lot more than just Lab and Poodle into the mix to get dogs with Labrador temperaments and non-shed, hopefully hypoallergenic coats. Obviously the hypoallergenic coats didn't happen.

However, dogs bred for a purpose that are health and temperament tested by experienced breeders are a far cry from what we call "Labradoodles and "Cockapoos" now. Now we have breeders buying any old poodle and some other mutt and putting them together to create doodles and poos. The "Labradoodles" we're talking about are certainly a far cry from dogs developed to be seeing eye dogs and the like.

I admire people who breed dogs for a purpose, and while I have nothing against the individual dogs, if you're going to breed a mutt--you better have a **** good reason. IMO, cockapoos are not bred for a purpose. Even though cp clubs are trying to make them a registered breed, with a standard and health testing and responsible breeding; IMO they are still mutts that are being bred because they're cute/have nice temparaments/whatever when there are so many other dogs that need real homes. I think it's selfish.

Now all the cockapoo owners may flame. :p

[MysticRealm]

why did they need to cross a lab with a poodle for dogs for the blind. poodles are highly intelligent, easily trained dogs that shed very little and so are better for people with allergies. why do you need a lab for this?
Most 'breeders' of these dogs do not care one bit to test their dogs, they just see money making. They have a golden and their next door neighbour happened to have a poodle so they stuck them together. Also now any good breeders non-breeding contract are pretty much worth bull b/c they generally state that if the dog is bred the puppies can't be registered but since these lab X Poodles can't be registered anyways the 'breeder' doesn't care if it's on a non breeding contract.

[noludoru]

Yeah, Mystic, it confused me too. Just find some poodles with great temperament & intelligence and you've got it.

[Beanie]

I am totally against people who are in it just for the money but i think everyone should spend more time critisising puppy farmers who breed pedigree breeds but do not care about their welfare.

Why should we be more angry about people misbreeding "pedigree" dogs to make another "pedigree" dog versus people misbreeding "pedigree" dogs to make a mutt..? It's still misbreeding one way or another. Surely you don't really believe that everyone who breeds labradoodles, cockapoos, peekapoos, dorgis, dalmadoodles, maltipoos, puggles, bullboxers, or $insert-silly-name-here are really totally awesome breeders who health test, carefully place their pups, and are just trying to make a new breed while everybody's picking on them. Why is one more deserving of criticism than another?

If you think people on this board don't criticize puppyfarms, mills, or BYBs... you didn't really look around that closely before making this post. Strange that you could wade through old posts all the way back to early February and still come away with that impression. =>

[mandym]

I too am against all these so called breeders that gat 2 dogs put them together and do it just for the money but the point i was making was the ones i know and there are quite a few are lovely caring breeders but everyone here seems to be insulting them all.The term mutt/mongrel is a dog of several breeds and unknown parentage these dogs are not.there are lots of people who are allergic to shedding dogs( my daughter is) and as wonderful as poodles are it is nice to see another dog with a non shedding coat to choose from. All i am saying is there are good and bad breeders breeding pedigree and crosses so please make it clear you do not mean all the breeders.At crufts this year i saw many labradoodles there that are used for disabled people etc and they are several generations down now,every breed started somewhere.Its sad that some people wont give them a chance.And yes this thread started a couple of months ago,i just joined hoping i wouldnt see arguments like this and more just helping and educating people.I would certainly argue in a thread if a dog was being mistreated but this thread was pointless!!

[MysticRealm]

There are ALOT more breeds out there that don't shed much than just poodles. (purebreds)
http://www.dog-breed-facts.com/dog-grooming.html
Did a real quick search and here's a site that lists some.

[Zoom]

No, this thread wasn't pointless. I don't know where you're from and whoopie for your friends who are "responsibly" breeding Doodles, but 99.7% of Lab- or Goldendoodles are from some yuppie idiot who thought it was a great way to make a quick buck and too bad so sad for those people who bought one of their puppies hoping for the famed "non-allergenic" coat and instead ended up with one of the shedding variety. Not every doodle born is non-shedding, you must know that, being such good friends with doodle breeders. And for somethign that cannot be registred with any legit registry, they are certainly not worth $3000+ dollars.

[~Tucker&Me~]

The term mutt/mongrel is a dog of several breeds and unknown parentage these dogs are not.there are lots of people who are allergic to shedding dogs( my daughter is) and as wonderful as poodles are it is nice to see another dog with a non shedding coat to choose from.

There are PLENTY of fantastic dogs out there that are good for allergy sufferers.


At crufts this year i saw many labradoodles there that are used for disabled people etc and they are several generations down now,every breed started somewhere.!!

Although I personally don't like Labradoodle's, there are some good breeders out there who really are trying to make this mix a proper, registered breed with standards. I am not against breeders breeding towards this.


And yes this thread started a couple of months ago,i just joined hoping i wouldnt see arguments like this and more just helping and educating people.I would certainly argue in a thread if a dog was being mistreated but this thread was pointless!!

When joining a forum, remember there will ALWAYS be arguments. No one ever agrees with everyone. Arguments are FINE and good in my opinion, they are eye opening and can give you different views on subjects.

This thread is definately not pointless! Maybe it will stop more people from buying 'poopi' mixes :D.

Just as a side note, dogs were bred for a reason. Whether it was for a tool on the ranch, a hunting partner, a livestock protection dog, these dogs were being bred for a purpose that not any old 'fido' could perform. Thus, there was a NEED for them.

These mixes have no things they can offer us (that are a necessity) but companionship. A dog from a shelter could also do this. So..... Why would you breed these dogs? There is no REASON for their breeding other then companionship, and that in itself is why we do not agree with their breeding. There are just too many dogs dieing and on death row that could make just as good companions.

It's just not right.

~Tucker

[Laurelin]

Mandym, you mention Crufts, are you in Europe?

Just fyi to everyone else out there, many places in Europe don't have the insane dog overpopulation that we do here. I have friends from other forums that live in England and Scandinavia and crossbreeding there is done very differently and looked upon in different light than it is in the US where it is most often done by really horrible breeders to sell to pet shops or unsuspecting customers.

Just a thought.

[GSDMom]

THE ALMIGHTY BUCK whatever sells :rolleyes: 9 outa 10 of those sweet little cute name breeds will end up in a shelter

WHY???? because cute just doesn't always cut it
temperament, health and brains will