Dog that Mauled Eagle Country Toddler Euthanized (Lab)

[Miakoda]

Dog that mauled Eagle County toddler euthanized

posted by: Dan Boniface , Web Producer
created: 1/27/2007 12:01:26 PM
Last updated: 1/27/2007 12:01:56 PM


EDWARDS (AP) - The owner of a dog that attacked a two-year-old Eagle County girl says the dog has been euthanized.


Donna Griffin of Singletree still faces a charge of owning a dangerous dog following the July 21st attack. Zoie Palmer suffered multiple cuts to her face and has had several surgeries.

After the attack, Griffin's Labrador mix Max was put in the custody of the Eagle County Animal Shelter, where director Natalie Duck says Max had behaved well with other dogs before he was put to sleep.

Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert - whose office had recommended euthanasia - says Griffin's trial is scheduled to begin March 24th.

[Zoom]

Can I ask why the sudden flurry of dog attack postings?

[Miakoda]

I dunno. I collect & save dog attack articles for future use (in the fight against BSL) & I just thought I would post them.

If it's a problem, I will delete them all.

[skyeboxer]

No, it's not a problem but seeing the thread about the rottie and the six year old boy, I was thinking the same thing. Are you making a point that so many different breeds attack and can kill other than pits. Would you post a news article that identified a pitty as the aggressor?

I am totally against BSL and can imagine as a pit owner you must get a lot of flack. I guess if boxers were under threat here I'd be doing the same.

I love GSDs. Can't imagine a world without GSDs in it. But I think to protect that breed I'd dig up facts about the owners, if I could. Statistics.

The news stories of whatever breed attacking and killing a child can only make dog-lovers (of whatever breed) rage against the injustice of a good dog having a bad owner and feel pain for the family that lost their baby.

Miakoda, if you don't mind I am going to make a suggestion. Make a thread about what pit owners and other owners of dogs that are on the BSL list can do to cut the BSL off at the pass. WE (at Chaz) already know its the deed and not the breed.

Get your ducks in a row and send a stinging letter to every newspaper that will print it. Start talking, not defensively, but from the POV of knowing your breed has a bad rap. What can you do to turn that around? What compromises are you willing to make to ensure the survival of the breed.

Maybe people who own 'dangerous dogs' should have to pass some kind of basic test? Maybe people who own these dogs will be allowed to keep them if they can be certified as being cared for and trained?

I hate gov interference but if it meant saving Skye I would submit to an ownership skill test. If you all sit back and watch the wave of BSL pass over you without being proactive about it, you may, in the end, have no choices at all.

[dr2little]

Enough already.:rolleyes: What you are doing is no better than what the BSL supporters do.:mad: While possibly well intentioned, certainly poorly executed..

[adoptashelterpettoday]

"Get your ducks in a row and send a stinging letter to every newspaper that will print it. "

Um..Good luck on that. I have sent my local paper many a positive pit bull stories, one about an adopted dog locally saving her foster mom's life. Do you think I heard back? Heck no. If I had sent a story in about how mean pit bulls were do you think it would be printed? Yes.


There are a lot of people on here who post "pit attacks", I dont see a reason not to post attacks made by other breeds of dogs.

I do feel bad for that poor girl.

[casablanca1]

What's the problem with seeing dog attack stories? They're interesting and, if they make us uncomfortable, maybe that's a good thing.

[Miakoda]

No, it's not a problem but seeing the thread about the rottie and the six year old boy, I was thinking the same thing. Are you making a point that so many different breeds attack and can kill other than pits. Would you post a news article that identified a pitty as the aggressor?

I am totally against BSL and can imagine as a pit owner you must get a lot of flack. I guess if boxers were under threat here I'd be doing the same.

I love GSDs. Can't imagine a world without GSDs in it. But I think to protect that breed I'd dig up facts about the owners, if I could. Statistics.

The news stories of whatever breed attacking and killing a child can only make dog-lovers (of whatever breed) rage against the injustice of a good dog having a bad owner and feel pain for the family that lost their baby.

Miakoda, if you don't mind I am going to make a suggestion. Make a thread about what pit owners and other owners of dogs that are on the BSL list can do to cut the BSL off at the pass. WE (at Chaz) already know its the deed and not the breed.

Get your ducks in a row and send a stinging letter to every newspaper that will print it. Start talking, not defensively, but from the POV of knowing your breed has a bad rap. What can you do to turn that around? What compromises are you willing to make to ensure the survival of the breed.

Maybe people who own 'dangerous dogs' should have to pass some kind of basic test? Maybe people who own these dogs will be allowed to keep them if they can be certified as being cared for and trained?

I hate gov interference but if it meant saving Skye I would submit to an ownership skill test. If you all sit back and watch the wave of BSL pass over you without being proactive about it, you may, in the end, have no choices at all.

I post anything. However, I do not post "pit bull" attacks here because that's all you all seem to post. So y'all seem to be taking care of that job pretty well.:rolleyes:

As for sitting back & watching BSL take over, you know nothing of what I do. I have spoken at city council meetings for Baton Rouge, Gonzales, & Prairieville, LA. I've got an APBT who is a certified therapy dog & we are developing a program to go into the elementary schools & day cares to demonstrate dog safety. I write letters to politicians without bias & point out the facts of the case & propose solutions such as actually enforcing leash laws, getting rid of the second chance law after a dog has already bitten once, putting more money in the AC system for ACO officers so that already existing laws can be enforced to the highest extent.

But yet it seems no one wants to do that. BSL seems "safer" to most despite the fact that it actually has nothing to do with public safety. It's a political issue, a re-election issue, & one in which people want to pass so they can be seen as powerful & "right" about the so-called "dangerous" breeds. If it was really a public safety issue, these same people would be pushing for everyone with every breed of dog & even cats to kept confined at all times & so on so forth. But sadly, people still want the right to let their family friendly non-aggressive dog roam in the front yard or walk down the street off leash while their cat is in some other neighbor's yard all because their animals don't "hurt anyone."

[skyeboxer]

I'm sorry if I offended you Miakoda, that wasn't my intention. I have noticed you posting a lot of stories about dog attacks lately that's all. I wanted to know if you were intentionally making a point. I understand why you would want too.

You are right. I don't know what you do but I have seen so many threads here on Chaz that simply end up in squabbling pro/anti pit bull posts and these threads just don't achieve anything.

It would seem to be constructive to have a thread or discussion on the BSL itself and what can be done to prevent it, what measures can be taken to protect our dogs from this BS law than focussing on any one of the threatened breeds. Unfortunately, I have no doubt that such a thread would degenerate into the usual squabble very quickly.

[dr2little]

What's the problem with seeing dog attack stories? They're interesting and, if they make us uncomfortable, maybe that's a good thing.

My problem is not with dog attack stories in general but rather the reason for specific people posting on only certain breeds...never their own. If everyone is so concerned with BSL they should put a little more thought into how it all started and how NOT to perpetuate hatred towards ANY breeds.

Spotlighting breeds other than their own is not in any way productive and only serves to give reason to add to the already long list of breeds in danger of inclusion in BSL.

[Laurelin]

My problem is not with dog attack stories in general but rather the reason for specific people posting on only certain breeds...never their own. If everyone is so concerned with BSL they should put a little more thought into how it all started and how NOT to perpetuate hatred towards ANY breeds.

Spotlighting breeds other than their own is not in any way productive and only serves to give reason to add to the already long list of breeds in danger of inclusion in BSL.

That's my problem with this too. I see many pit people who simply respond with 'other dogs attack too. Look here, here, here. See all these horrible breeds that attack more than pits?' It's the same thing people are doing to pits and I see it as a double standard. Every pit attack thread turns into a discussion on other dog attacks especially 'ankle biters'. Chihuahuas get such a bad rap on these kinds of threads. It annoys me because there the people are with pits trying to tell people not to classify their dogs as vicious then they turn around and say how vicious other breeds are.

That's not the way you should go about changing people's opinions.

[adoptashelterpettoday]

It's not a "this other breed is vicious" thing, it is a "hey look ANY dog can bite" sort of thing. It's saying pits shouldnt be singled out.

[Laurelin]

Pits shouldn't be singled out, but the way these threads were posted especially with the breed in parenthesis at the end makes the breed stand out (at least to me) above all else. All I’m saying is that people who post these things really need to look at their wording on this. The way some things are posted seems like people are saying ‘Hey look at x vicious breed!’ Maybe if that’s not the point that they’re trying to get across they should reword it. Seriously, just read what you’ve typed before you post it. It’s a forum, you have time to post so try to post what you actually mean.

I also think it’s bad to post dog attack articles if you’re not going to post your own breed. I don’t post dog bite articles because I find it pointless. It’s the owner’s fault and the dog should’ve been controlled. If I were to post dog attacks, then I’d try to be indiscriminate about the breed.

[Doberluv]

That's my problem with this too. I see many pit people who simply respond with 'other dogs attack too. Look here, here, here. See all these horrible breeds that attack more than pits?' It's the same thing people are doing to pits and I see it as a double standard. Every pit attack thread turns into a discussion on other dog attacks especially 'ankle biters'. Chihuahuas get such a bad rap on these kinds of threads. It annoys me because there the people are with pits trying to tell people not to classify their dogs as vicious then they turn around and say how vicious other breeds are.

That's not the way you should go about changing people's opinions.

Well said. I see that too, "some of the most vicious dogs I've seen were Chihuahuas, little ankle biting brats." What kind of nonsense is that?

I think not only a little common sense would help, but so would some science. As far as genetics where breeds are concerned, there is NO logic to BSL. Dogs are dogs are dogs. They all have dog DNA. Distinguishing breeds is stupid. They all have some part of the whole set of the preditory behavior patterns.

There are a kazillion variables which predict a dog's reason to bite. It is so unscientific to focus on a particular breed, one thing, one possible factor and completely ignore the kazillions of variables. It is skipping steps, leaping over logic. The is NOT using parsimony and that makes it completely unscientific in itself. I think some scientists need to be dug up to speak against BSL. I really do.