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Sweet72947
01-24-2007, 04:54 PM
OLYMPIA, Wash. - If dog-loving lawmakers prevail, Fido could soon be sidling up to bar stools around Washington state under a measure that would allow well-behaved, leashed canines to join their human companions as they down their favorite microbrews.

The measure was introduced by Sen. Ken Jacobsen, a Seattle Democrat who got the idea at the Fish Tale Brewpub, formerly known as the Fish Bowl, in downtown Olympia.

"I was sitting at the Fish Bowl looking at all the dogs outside sitting in the cold and the rain, while all the owners were warm inside," said Jacobsen, who doesn't own a dog.

"There's all sorts of places you can bring animals now. You can take dogs into hotels. My God, some people are carrying dogs in their purses. Why can't we have them in the bars?"

The bill would allow bars and restaurants with liquor licenses to welcome dogs, as long as they accompany their owners and remain leashed. Establishments wouldn't be required to allow dogs, except for service animals.

The Senate Labor, Commerce, Research and Development Committee scheduled a public hearing on the proposal for Jan. 30.

Janna Goodwin with the National Conference of State Legislatures said she could not find any states with similar laws or any that are considering them this year.

Jacobsen said he expects to encounter opposition to his proposal.

"I imagine I'll get a lot of criticism, like, 'Don't you have something more important to do?' Well, talk to the dog lovers. In my mind, it's giving them some flexibility," he said.

Lisa Owens, owner of The Mark restaurant in Olympia, agreed.

She said she wouldn't change the policy at her restaurant, but would like the law to pass so she could bring her 112-pound Rottweiler, Ida, with her when meeting friends at bars.

"If people were asking me to go somewhere and I could bring my dog, I might be more likely to go," she said.

But Mike Duffy, walking along a pier with his German shorthaired pointer, Emma, said he didn't think it was a great idea.

"If you want to take your dog out, go for a walk," he said. "If you want to go to the bar, leave the dog outside or at home."

Health officials said the state rule banning pets from restaurants and bars is based on a food code standard set by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

"Animals don't use the toilet and they shed and they sometimes drool, and those are potential issues with food," said Joe Graham, public health adviser for the Washington state Department of Health.

"I'm not against dogs," said Graham, who doesn't own any. "But dogs can transmit disease. "It's not common, but it could happen."

The place where Jacobsen's idea crystalized would likely remain dog-free.

"We usually have a crowd, so having the animal being a part of that atmosphere would be difficult," said Lyle Morse, shareholder and president of the company that owns the pub. "And this is coming from a dog owner."

By: Rachel La Corte, Associated Press Writer

Opinions? :popcorn:

Meggie
01-24-2007, 05:11 PM
I don't see this as a really good idea but not because of the germ or hair issue. I used to work in bars and seriously, some dogs are a heck of a lot cleaner and drop less hair than some bar patrons. I can think of a lot of better places to go with my dog that involve a healthier walk than down to the corner bar. And think about it, who the heck wants a bunch of drunken yahoos poking and prodding at your dog in an attempt to be friendly? Although that might take the heat off of some of the waitresses!

whatszmatter
01-24-2007, 05:53 PM
I'm for it. The owner doesn't have to allow it, but they can if they want to. If they think they have a population of dog loving people that have well mannered dogs that are walking by and want to stop in an outside cafe, or inside and shoot the stuff with friends on their way by, why not?

I think it would remain more of local low key type bars where people can sit and have a conversation, not they party like crazy bars that are packed with people.

Buckshot
01-24-2007, 07:28 PM
Since they raised such a stink about driving drunk I think drunks should have seeing eye dogs for the walk home.

Aussie Red
01-24-2007, 09:03 PM
Since we can ban smoking in bars for health purposes I doubt this will fly because it too posses a health risk and a safty risk.
People have allergies to pet hair and I can not see this one flying or beware the smokers will unite and come back too.

Dreeza
01-24-2007, 09:07 PM
i like the idea!

A coffee shop by me "allows" dogs (its actually against the rules...but they let em come in anyways, lol), and oakley LOVES it...every time we walk past it, he goes and sits by the door, and gives me this look like "Lets go inside!!!"

anyways, its nice to sit there and have some coffee with oakley by my side. I see this as a great idea for low key bars....not loud ones obviously.

Meggie
01-25-2007, 09:16 AM
Since we can ban smoking in bars for health purposes I doubt this will fly because it too posses a health risk and a safty risk.
People have allergies to pet hair and I can not see this one flying or beware the smokers will unite and come back too.

Ok, call me weird but...... I'm a smoker. I don't smoke in front of my kids, husband, or dog (at least inside). If there was smoking allowed in bars, wouldn't take him in there anyway.

Buckshot
01-25-2007, 09:27 AM
It should be the proprieters choice. Allow dogs or not, if you dont like the rule go elswhere. Same with smoking or anything else, for gods sake does the government have to do all of our thinking for us? I would prefer to go to a bar that allows dogs over one that doesnt. This could be an idea that could allow someone to make a lot of money catering to the dog lovers, just like smokers. Unfortunatly the government has the power to say no to both in the name of our safety:rolleyes:

Btw several of my friends have sat at my bar in my house with my dog nearby and managed to not become diseased from it. Those same people catch colds from their kids who are packed like sardines is schools (pardon the pun), exposed to way more strains of nasty stuff then they can ever get hanging out with dogs.

DanL
01-25-2007, 09:46 AM
We have an Irish pub around the corner from us. I always thought it'd be cool to stop in for a Guinness while Gunnar and I are out for our walk.

casablanca1
01-25-2007, 10:02 AM
A lot of city pubs/bars already let dogs in. I don't care if I have to step over somebody's snoring Lab while making my way to the bathroom, but I can just see this becoming another dog park issue--something that was cool when a few committed people did it with appropriate dogs becomes a huge, nasty mess when a lot of people do it with any dog.