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DryCreek
01-15-2007, 10:06 AM
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21058787-5006009,00.html
Total: 2325 attacks in 16 month period.
1-Unknown – 338
2-Staffordshire – 279
3-Cattle Dog – 208
4-Rottweiler – 173
5-German Shepherd – 166
6-Pit Bull – 133
7-Kelpie – 100
8-Bull Mastiff – 90
9-Labrador – 83
10-Bull Terrier –74
11-Terrier – 66
12-American Staffordshire – 58
13-Rhodesian Ridgeback – 54
14-Husky – 53
15-Border Collie – 49
16-Jack Russell – 46
17-Mastiff – 46
18-Malamute – 42
19-Maltese Terrier – 41
20-Boxer – 39
21-American Pitt Bull Terrier – 26
22-Great Dane – 23
23-Dingo – 20
24-Chihuahua – 17
25-Fox Terrier – 14
26-Doberman – 13
27-Grey Hound – 9
28-Silky Terrier – 9
29-Old English Sheep Dog – 5
30-Dalmation – 5
31-Corgie – 5
32-Bull Arab – 4
33-Poodle – 4
34-Scottish Terrier – 3
35-Golden Retriever – 3
36-Bulldog – 3
37-Beagle – 3
38-Akitas – 2
39-Belgian Shepherd – 2
40-Heeler – 2
41-Sheep Dog – 2
42-Irish Wolf Hound – 1
43-Wolf Hound – 1
44-English Staffordshire – 1
45-Shitzu – 1
46-Shar-Pei – 1
47-Sharp! – 1
48-Schnausers – 1
49-Spaniel – 1
50-Pomeranian – 1
51-Napoleon Mastiff – 1
52-Marema – 1
53-Labradoodle – 1
54-Basenji – 1
But, as reported by the Daily Telegraph this month, the real number of attacks could be far higher as just 80 councils passed on details.
casablanca1
01-15-2007, 10:40 AM
NSW Staffordshire Bull Terrier Association treasurer Susan Scott blamed any aggression on cross-breeding by irresponsible owners. She said cross-breeds may have temperament problems or heriditary conditions which make them unsuitable.
Well, that's an interesting defense: the mongrel race did it.
Red_ACD_for_me
01-15-2007, 10:45 AM
3-Cattle Dog – 208:yikes: WOW! That's incredible but not totally unbelieveable because I own one and I know how they can be. They ARE NOT A BREED FOR the average dog owner who doesn't know what they are doing hence the results in biting. Such a shame :( !
whatszmatter
01-15-2007, 11:31 AM
NSW Staffordshire Bull Terrier Association treasurer Susan Scott blamed any aggression on cross-breeding by irresponsible owners. She said cross-breeds may have temperament problems or heriditary conditions which make them unsuitable.
Well, that's an interesting defense: the mongrel race did it.
I think the intent of her arguement was more of a "when you start crossing dogs of uknown history, you get unknown results", not that simply mutts make for viscious animals.
Aussie Red
01-15-2007, 11:49 AM
# 2 Cattle dog 208
# 40 heeler 2
????
Not saying it surprises me 1 bit Cattle dogs are agressive. They were bred to be. As posted above not a dog that should be owned by everyone.
I just hope for the ACDs sake that ganstas and the like never get to know this.
casablanca1
01-15-2007, 01:01 PM
I think the intent of her arguement was more of a "when you start crossing dogs of uknown history, you get unknown results", not that simply mutts make for viscious animals.
I agree that was part of her argument; unfortunately, I think the ugliness I mentioned is also part of that argument. Talk about breedism.
bubbatd
01-15-2007, 01:41 PM
Some of those are hard to believe ......are they attacks or bites .?
adoptashelterpettoday
01-15-2007, 01:53 PM
I wonder how they identify the dogs because Rhodesian Ridgebacks are fairly uncommon. I doubt they have that many bites. Probably misidentification. Not surprising.
Kelpies are also high on the list, again they are uncommon.
Bull Terriers are also uncommon.
I guess different breeds could be more common in Austrailla?
Seems a little far fetched to me. Especially when Chis are so low on the list. In my experience, they bite quite a bit.
And I would guess as well this is bites not "attacks"
Keep in mind that this occurred in Australia, so attacks Australian breeds are bound to be more common simply because they are going to be more numerous.
ACooper
01-15-2007, 06:08 PM
Well I can tell you that the "unknown breed" sounds terribly dangerous and I am definitely going to stay away from those kind of dogs!! I am also going to warn all my friends about them too!
BostonBanker
01-15-2007, 06:36 PM
Bull Arab – 4
What is this? Never heard of it.
47-Sharp! – 1
And this?
Well I can tell you that the "unknown breed" sounds terribly dangerous and I am definitely going to stay away from those kind of dogs!
I agree! When will BSL start to deal with this, clearly the most viscious of all breeds?
noludoru
01-15-2007, 06:53 PM
Well I can tell you that the "unknown breed" sounds terribly dangerous and I am definitely going to stay away from those kind of dogs!
The unknown breed does sound very dangerous.. I think I'll stay away from them.
Red_ACD_for_me
01-15-2007, 06:56 PM
*Quote*47-Sharp! – 1
And this?
I believe this would be the sharpei but the bull Arab has me stumped to!
ACooper
01-15-2007, 07:03 PM
Ok, quick search and found the mysterious Bull arab........it's for real, and that is the name!! Pretty cute actually............
"They originaly were a cross that consisted of English Bull Terrier, Greyhound and English Pointer or Shorthaired Pointer. There are also the breed supporters who believe the greyhound was initially, Saluki hence the name Arab."
Here ya go...........
http://www.boardogs.com/Bull_Arabs.htm
BostonBanker
01-15-2007, 07:39 PM
believe this would be the sharpei
But #46, right above it is:
46-Shar-Pei – 1
And the Bull-Arab is real, huh? Thanks for finding that, ACooper!
Red_ACD_for_me
01-15-2007, 07:46 PM
Those bull arabs look like a pitbull pointer cross alright. Sorry BB, I didn't see the original sharpei stats posted :o *edited to add*I just checked out that guys site of bull arabs and they are nothing but mutts sometimes crossed with 4 different breeds :yikes: Also some of those pics on his website are disturbing as well as looking at his beat up scared dogs :cool:
Aussie Red
01-15-2007, 07:51 PM
ah yes and the dreaded unknown breed. Hmmmmm wonder how fast someone will find a breed to insert in this slot.
ACooper
01-15-2007, 07:56 PM
Edit:Sorry, off topic
Rubylove
01-16-2007, 04:37 AM
Actually it's not uncommon for Kelpies to bite. In Australia many people have cattle dogs or dogs descended from or mixed with working breeds. So, kelpies, border collies, blue heelers, red heelers and so forth a very common breeds. These all have a high incidence of biting - they are `nippy' dogs by necessity, for the kind of work they are bred for. We had a kelpie when I was a child and he was a very snappy little dog. Inexperienced owners don't really realise that these dogs need people with experience and patience and above all, a non-aggressive approach to teaching bite inhibition to working breeds. It's very important.
adoptashelterpettoday
01-16-2007, 08:24 AM
Those Bull Arabs arent even consistent. They all look totally & completly different. I dont know why they are a "breed". Seems like a dog shouldnt be a breed until a standard is formed and worked toward. These dogs dont look anything alike. Some look like pointers some look like pit mixes??
I also found this which puts things more into perspective. It's the registration numbers through last year.
Rotties, Staffies, Am Staffs, and a couple other dogs on that list have VERY high numbers of dogs registered.
On the other hand, there arent a lot of Cattle dogs registered yet they have a high number of bites.
When you are looking at bites, it is VERY important to consider the population of the breed as well.
Like Labs & Goldens & Pits always top the list in the US because there are just so many of them, of course they are going to have the most bite incidents.
If there are only 2 of a breed in this country, there is no way they could make the bite list, even if they are the 2 most vicious dogs you have ever met. It's something a lot of people dont consider.
ETA-Duh, I need to include the link: http://www.ankc.aust.com/nrs.html
Sweet72947
01-16-2007, 09:58 AM
And what is #51, a "Napoleon Mastiff"? Perhaps they meant "Neapolitan Mastiff"?
DryCreek
01-16-2007, 12:59 PM
It was a bit of a chore putting those stats in order LOL. A lot of cut and paste.;)
I agree with adoptashelterpettoday. Some important info that is missing is the total population of these breeds in the area that was studied. Only with that information can you have anything near viable statistical information on which breeds tend to bite more. Even then, all it will really tell you is that more bad owners own these breeds than the other breeds.
That is why it is so important to judge each case individually. If one breed needs to be muzzled according to law, why not all breeds? Will the people who encourage BSL be there to help a restricted animal and it's owner protect their muzzled dog from an attack from a "safe" breed?
Our government has a big thing going now about accountability, implementing individual accountability for government employees/officials (Yes, elected officials are employees LOL, apparently they work for us:rolleyes: ), but what about OUR individual accountability? When will people be held responsible for creating an animal, or a situation with an animal, that causes harm?