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misticaleclipse
11-27-2006, 12:03 AM
I am happy at least the Canadian goverment reconizes that shooting dogs is wrong.

SHOOTING DOGS WRONG AND ILLEGAL SAYS THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF CANADA

Attention: Assignment Editor, News Editor

VANCOUVER, BC--(CCNMatthews - Nov. 24, 2006) - "No one would allow dogs to be shot in the financial district of any major city in Canada, so why should it be acceptable on native reserves," says HSC Executive Director, Michael O'Sullivan, responding to recent news reports that sanction "dog shoot" days when any dog found running loose is killed or wounded with gunfire.

"Any trigger happy moron can pick up a gun and blow away an animal. Victimizing ourselves and others is easy. Instead it takes brains, patience, understanding, kindness and money to do the right thing. But that's hard work, and the reason why so many people seem willing to take the easy way out," said O'Sullivan.

Humane solutions can only be accomplished through a carefully structured program of responsible ownership, education, spaying and neutering, money, stiff fines and penalties. 'Saving Lives: The Humane Society of Canada's Action Plan to Prevent Dog Bites' can be found here or by calling toll free 1-800-641-KIND.

"Some have also suggested that because of social and economic conditions on native reserves that these are legal and moral excuses for such activities. Regrettably, in our opinion, we are deeply concerned that such racial overtones mean that we should simply accept that native people living on reserves should not be expected to take better care of their animals -- and further that native people and their animals deserve less consideration and legal protection than people and their animals living elsewhere in Canada. This is simply wrong," he said.

Over the past 35 years, the animal charity's staff has worked across Canada and in many developing nations under harsh conditions and believes these are not an excuse for cruelty to animals.

"The Humane Society of Canada is willing to offer whatever support we can to bring a humane and effective solution to the problems facing people and animals. Rather than yelling 'lock and load', we need more government action for public safety initiatives that save the lives of people and animals," said O'Sullivan.

CONTACT: Al Hickey or Michael O'Sullivan by toll free 1-800-641-KIND or Michael on his cell phone (416) 876-9685 or at www.humanesociety.com

[For more than 17 years, Al Hickey was the Chief Executive of the BC SPCA and before that headed up the Alberta and BC Chambers of Commerce, and the Executive Director of the Boys and Girls Club of Greater Vancouver. He has 6 grandchildren.

A father with two children, and a houseful of dogs and cats, O'Sullivan has worked across Canada and in over 90 countries during the last 35 years helping people, animals and nature.]

The Humane Society of Canada works to protect dogs, cats, rabbits, birds, horses, livestock, lab animals, wildlife and the environment. We carry out hands on programs to help animals and nature, mount rescue operations, expose cruelty through hard hitting undercover investigations, work to pass laws to protect animals, fund non-invasive scientific research, support animal shelters and wildlife rehabilitation centres and spread the word about how to help animals and nature through humane education.

The Humane Society of Canada depends entirely on donations to support our programs to help animals and the environment. All donations are gratefully acknowledged with a receipt for income tax purposes. If you would like to support our educational campaigns please make a donation here

BACKGROUND

Under the Criminal Code of Canada if the court finds there is evidence both sufficient and admissible and finds a person guilty, then counselling to commit, conspiracy, attempts and the commission of cruelty to animals is a summary conviction matter that carries with it a $2,000 fine and/or six months in prison for each offence. Further a person convicted receives a criminal record and can be prohibited from owning or working with animals or birds for up to two years. There are additional sanctions, such as firearms prohibitions which can also be considered by the court.

found here (http://www.ccnmatthews.com/news/releases/show.jsp?action=showRelease&searchText=false&showText=all&actionFor=623829)

Renee750il
11-27-2006, 12:37 AM
SHOOTING DOGS WRONG

Geee . . . ya think? Took long enough to make it illegal :rolleyes:

muggsies16
12-02-2006, 10:19 AM
It is good, that they passed that, but too be honest with you, people will still shoot them! I hope they get caught and charged with murder!

Gempress
12-02-2006, 11:16 AM
Is this law talking about shooting as in hunting down strays? Or does it include all shooting, including mercy shooting?

muggsies16
12-02-2006, 07:03 PM
I beleive it about shooting all and any dog, but mostly stray's!

Saje
12-02-2006, 07:51 PM
Ok from what I can tell this article is misleading. It's based on an opinion from the humane society that 'current' animal rights legislation should be used in cases where dogs are shot on reserve land.

This 'current' legislation is over a century old and has not recently updated. However, there is a bill that is supposed to be introduced in the House of Commons which will make the act stricter. http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/general/default.aspx?oid=89449 This bill is something that pitbulliest and I have posted about before but there isn't anything new yet.

So, it's not really illegal to shoot dogs in Canada and there is definitely no law regarding mercy killings. This was basically a press release from the humane society that was published in it's orginal form. You can tell that it's written by a PR person because it only has one source.

summitview
12-03-2006, 01:04 AM
I hope they get caught and charged with murder!

You cannot, by definition, "murder" an animal. I would also find it sad if they ended up outlawing "mercy shootings."

darkchild16
12-03-2006, 01:28 AM
im sorry but if it counts shootings in defence then its wrong and needs to be reevaluated because in alot of parts in canda that i have seen there is alot of rural areas how fast can a cop or ac officer get there? not fast enough to save you if a dog is attacking you.

Buddy'sParents
12-03-2006, 05:47 AM
I'm not for shooting anyone or anything... I do not own a gun, nor will I ever.

I can not see why people would just shoot dogs for the heck of it.

Now, if it was being done to protect, that is another issue. If I have a dog attacking me or mine, I will do whatever is within my power to protect me and mine. 'Nuff said.

SiNNiK
12-03-2006, 06:11 AM
im sorry but if it counts shootings in defence then its wrong and needs to be reevaluated because in alot of parts in canda that i have seen there is alot of rural areas how fast can a cop or ac officer get there? not fast enough to save you if a dog is attacking you.

maybe try a bat?

CanadianK9
12-03-2006, 11:27 AM
You cannot, by definition, "murder" an animal. I would also find it sad if they ended up outlawing "mercy shootings."

Thats right, however there are many other laws that you can be nabbed with

summitview
12-03-2006, 11:35 AM
Thats right, however there are many other laws that you can be nabbed with
Very true. I just hate seeing the term "murder" slung around in relation to animals, because it's something animal rights extremists do to get quick, knee-jerk shock reactions to situations. Not saying the OP is an AR extremist, just that I don't like seeing the wording for that reason.

muggsies16
12-03-2006, 04:06 PM
maybe try a bat?

Yes, maybe a bat would be good. Any how that was funny!

misticaleclipse
12-03-2006, 07:33 PM
Very true. I just hate seeing the term "murder" slung around in relation to animals, because it's something animal rights extremists do to get quick, knee-jerk shock reactions to situations. Not saying the OP is an AR extremist, just that I don't like seeing the wording for that reason.

I do not know what an "AR extremist" is, and I never mentioned the word murder myself so I do not know what you are referring to.

Laurelin
12-03-2006, 07:34 PM
I do not know what an "AR extremist" is, and I never mentioned the word murder myself so I do not know what you are referring to.

AR extremist is an animal rights extremist (think PETA and ALF, etc)

Don't know about the rest of the statement though. I haven't really followed the whole thread.

darkchild16
12-04-2006, 12:02 AM
maybe try a bat?


ummm dont own one ;)

Julie
12-04-2006, 12:41 AM
A bat would not be an effective Humane way to protect yourself against an attacking dog... could you imagine the blow to the head again and again until the dog collapsed or retreated?
I, personally would take a more humane option.

I also do not frown upon a dog owner relieving his dog's suffering in his own way. Why in this society is a needle prick with deadly drugs delivered more humane than a bullet that they will never feel? Just because that is done by some people doesn't mean they love their dogs less.......... As a matter of fact alot of dog owners feel the need to "be responsible" for their dog until the end. In their own way, they are showing love and compassion for their dog.

darkchild16
12-04-2006, 12:01 PM
i will never take away walkers suffering with a needle because i have seen that and it takes them time and they feel it with a well placed bullet they feel nothing and it is instant.

misticaleclipse
12-04-2006, 12:03 PM
AR extremist is an animal rights extremist (think PETA and ALF, etc)

Don't know about the rest of the statement though. I haven't really followed the whole thread.

Thank you for clarifying, no I am not an AR extremist :)

Buckshot
12-04-2006, 02:27 PM
It is good, that they passed that, but too be honest with you, people will still shoot them! I hope they get caught and charged with murder!


How about when someone traps a mouse? How would you deal with a dog that was in serious pain or dangerous to your family?

Bobsk8
12-04-2006, 02:35 PM
AR extremist is an animal rights extremist (think PETA and ALF, etc)

Don't know about the rest of the statement though. I haven't really followed the whole thread.

In the US an animal rights extremist is an animal rights advocate that didn't vote for George W ;)

summitview
12-04-2006, 09:34 PM
Thank you for clarifying, no I am not an AR extremist :)
No one ever said you were. Another poster, not you, said they think that people who shoot dogs should be charged with murder. I stated that you cannot murder an animal. I explained my reason for saying this - because "murder" in relation to animals is a) not valid and b) animal rights terminology, which I hate to see used.