bad site for animals..and people too

[smkie]

Last night David's girlfriend was reading something outloud that she had pulled up on the web. I found what she had was horrible. Something about a site where the man would kill this rabbit he had the picture posted..if he didn't receive so much money...Aaron turned to me and said mom..you do not want to go to rotten.com. i am not going to either..i just can't deal with this stuff anymore. i have seen so much real life suffering that like the poodle crossing the highway, i don't want to look. For those of you with a stronger constitution..that won't have bad dreams like i do..maybe you want to report this. when AAron says don't do it Mom..i figure he knows me best. he said it is a bad bad site. don't know if there is a place to complain..like the peta (sp?) that Renee wrote about would do anything about this or not. :mad:

[scob89]

Rotten.com I've been there for about five minutes then left and never went back. I've heard from my freinds saying the the people on the site dig up graves of people and take pictures of naked decaying bodies and then left the bodies on a car or somthing. but thats just what I've heard about it. sounds bad don't it.

[Love4Pits]

I've been there i saw one body in a taxie cab and left as quickly as possible it really disturbed me.......

[smkie]

i don't know why..i could go thru my emt and perimedic training just fine..i have taken care of people without skin..riddled by disease until they are unrecognizable as people..in real life the pain and suffering is something i can act on and try to do something about ..but if it is on the screen..i know it is still real and i do not want to look. Found the rabbit thing realing disturbing..don't know if the man meant it for real or not..but it was bad either way you look at it. Didn't know if that was something that could be reported or not.

[Love4Pits]

I think that rabbit site is posted somewhere on this site.

[smkie]

yes it is..maybe i will get my courage up tomorrow to figure out where and find the post where Renee said you could report S**** like this. I was just hoping someone already knew about it and would tell me it had already been done. Shame on me.

[Saje]

Last night David's girlfriend was reading something outloud that she had pulled up on the web. I found what she had was horrible. Something about a site where the man would kill this rabbit he had the picture posted..if he didn't receive so much money...Aaron turned to me and said mom..you do not want to go to rotten.com. i am not going to either..i just can't deal with this stuff anymore. i have seen so much real life suffering that like the poodle crossing the highway, i don't want to look. For those of you with a stronger constitution..that won't have bad dreams like i do..maybe you want to report this. when AAron says don't do it Mom..i figure he knows me best. he said it is a bad bad site. don't know if there is a place to complain..like the peta (sp?) that Renee wrote about would do anything about this or not. :mad:

I know that site. Unfortunately. It is listed on almost every vegetarian forum that I go to. Peta has been involved. They can't get him to take it down but it's a big scam. Apparently the guy doesn't even have a rabbit and the site's been up for 5 years.

I read that his paypal (or whatever) account doesn't even work anymore.

He's just an A$$ and the only thing that Peta recommends is that nobody buys products from the site that hosts him or something. I don't know. I'm not to worried about it. I'll just continue ignoring it.

[smkie]

Thank you..so much..i will dismiss it out of my head right now and i do not have to go there.

[Saje]

LOL good. He probably just got the pic off the net anyway.

[Renee750il]

Any time you run into something like that and want to check on it, try going to http://www.snopes.com/

It's a very useful site for finding out about hoaxes and other "things that go bump in the net."

[gaddylovesdogs]

I saw that. It was posted here a little while ago.

[Datyn's Mom]

the things people do for money, its truely disgusting! I have been to rotten.com and all those gore sites turn my stomach..people have nothing better to do with thier time...i think the site is called savetoby.com or something like that there are so many of these sites out there, saying they are going to kill the animal if they dont get the money...truely sad and disturbing if some of its true...i know i have heard some people state about the people who build the sites, what where they thinking, well in all honesty its so easy to build your own site these days, and if you cant, its all about the money...

i can build a web site but ill tell you if someone came to me and said that they wanted this site built all the money in the world couldnt get my to do it! but not everyone is like me or others on this board...

a lot of the gore sites are true and realistic stuff, which sickens me, these are peoples loved ones and pets...

my husband went to a gore site to see the beheading of the guy from PA..i dont know why he did, but he was angry after he saw it..i heard it but didnt watch..alls i could think of is my children what if that was my child screaming for help...i cried, thinking about it and told him to never go to these sites again, we hear enough about death on the news..i dont need to actually see it..

it saddens me to see what this world has come too..nowhere is safe anymore...not for adults, children or animals....

[BigDog2191]

savetoby.com?

Unfortunaetly, that's not a scam. It's real, the guys who did it had their faces covered and did an interview on Fox.

[Renee750il]

BigDoggy, it's what is called a "work" in pro-wrestling language - a story made up to seem real using mass media to give it credence. It's still a scam. The stuff FOX airs is pretty comparable, reality wise, to what you'd see watching a professional wrestling show . . .

[showpug]

I have seen pictures off of rotten.com, not by choice though. My old boss used to post them as a joke (don't ask, bad situation.) The one I saw was the remains of a man who was attacked/partially eaten by a bear. Totally gross. Don't look :eek:

[poeluvr]

ewww i saw one thing and that was all i wanted to see, it was a dead cab driver luckily no dead animals were involved

[Richie12345]

I just visited the site. All I see is porno and news talking about hoodlums and stuff... I didn't look around too much tho

[Richie12345]

Ok... I just saw some guy that got sniped in the head... and he has brains all over the place...

[mrose_s]

I heard of the site (maybe the same i think) off the glass house, it is http;//www.savetoby.com
he was going to kill the rabbit on June 30th this year, but he didnt get all the money he wanted so he is extending it till November 2006. It made me sick it did. But I hate not knowing what to do, who do i write a letter to if i want to???

[mrose_s]

yeah, i went rotten.com once gross stuff like a person that had commited suicide, i was with my friends and they found it FUNNY???

[Richie12345]

hmm... I guess it's different for some people. I don't really think it's funny at all, I don't know why anyone would think it's funny.

[Richie12345]

I heard of the site (maybe the same i think) off the glass house, it is http;//www.savetoby.com
he was going to kill the rabbit on June 30th this year, but he didnt get all the money he wanted so he is extending it till November 2006. It made me sick it did. But I hate not knowing what to do, who do i write a letter to if i want to???
Yeah, it's crazy what some people will do to animals. My dad used to live with this kid that would catch frogs, crusify them, and stick a fire cracker in it's mouth...

[poeluvr]

thats mean........real mean..what bout animal control?

[Richie12345]

It was a long time ago, and I don't even think there was animal control there. It's the ghetto, where the REAL poor and bad neighborhoods are. There's nothing there, only hospitals, churches, and fast food places. There are still people that kidnap pets and stuff.

[Richie12345]

My cousin's dog was stolen by this crack head. They saw him walking the dog, and my Aunt got sssoooo pissed, lol.

[gaddylovesdogs]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7406483/

Yet again, sick, heartless man.

[Richie12345]

Nobody should give him 50,000 dollars. That will only promote his bad behavior...

[Dakotah_2009]

OMGosh... how horrible. I went there and I saw the chopper and the head cut thing and I almost throw up!!! I'm never going back there again!!!

[BigDog2191]

thats mean........real mean..what bout animal control?

You can call animal control over a frog? I've seen it done over a huge turtle but...

[Richie12345]

You can call animal control over a frog? I've seen it done over a huge turtle but...
well a frog is considered an animal, don't u think?

[Dakotah_2009]

I think a frog is considered a pet/animal! I think frogs r cute...but I want touch a big though.

[Richie12345]

I'm guessing you misspelled won't, right? lol, I wouldn't really want to touch a frog, either:p.

[Dakotah_2009]

yea Richie...oops,LOL

[gaddylovesdogs]

I love frogs!!! Sure, they can be a little slimy, but I've lived with frogs basically my whole life, thanks to my older sister Abbie. I've lived with many "creepy" creatures....frogs, salamanders, an iguana, my wonderful chamelions....

[gaddylovesdogs]

Oh!! Forgot! And an eel.

[luvmydogs]

I think a frog is considered a pet/animal! I think frogs r cute...but I want touch a big though.
uhm think this is cute? LOL. he keeps coming into our frontyard. my kids love him, and i feel like if i touch him, i'l get bumpy like him LOL :D
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/luv_my_dogs/frog3.jpg

[Richie12345]

awww, the wittle froggy is so kwoot, :D

[Babyblue5290]

aww...that froggy is cute!!

[smkie]

frogs for gaddy

[smkie]

another frog for gaddy..last one
that froggie in the water of the photograph looks a lot like a toad to me

[Richie12345]

I was thinking it was a very ugly bull frog, lol

[Richie12345]

Smkie how long have you been painting? Is the other two color pencil?

Jeeze I am never going to be that good! lol I am horrible at painting and coloring. My grandpa is an artist and tries having me paint, Im so bad!!!:D:p

[smkie]

painting about 15 years, drawing forever..painting is something you suck at forever and then you get better..pay close attention to blue loves yellow..red loves green. orange loves purple..those are the colors you use to nutralize your shadows..like if your painting a leaf and want a shadow..ad the tiniest bit of red (sounds weird i know) and suddenly it will just shift to the background and be the perfect shade..those colors compliment each other as well so you use a yellow background to set off a blue ..anyway it took me forever to finally accept that and when i did things got a lot better quickly..both frogs are acrylic..a good cheap way to get use to color and completely forgiving in the fact that you can let it dry and go over and over until it gets right.plus you can water them down and use light washes to ad tint. (just make sure you never let your brushes dry out..i either freeze mine after cleaning or rub vasoline in them..and then wash it out again before i start..nothing destroys a brush faster then acrylic...i love it too because it doens't fade and is nearly indestructable. I had my cleo cat painting on top of the car after showing my brother drove off forgeting it was there...got home and when ohoh..went back found it face down on the road with tire track across the back, picked it up and not even a scratch..your brushes are everything...don't ever buy them in a package they rip you off right and left..don't let them sack them either......probably more info then you ever wanted.....get me started and i practically have to stuff a sock in it to shut up...i have thought about teaching later in life..hoping one of my new flock of children might have the interest..neither my son or daughter did and i have soooooo much i could give them. sigh last thing to add..i never but never use black or straight white..they look awful..use dark burnt umber for black (it mixes nicely with colors so you can add a tint of anything) and white i always add a tint of something to take the chalky out...now i will shut up..sorry

[Richie12345]

Smkie- You don't know how much I appreciate the tips!!! I can't believe niether your son or daughter have an interest in art! I have always loved drawing animals. My grandpa bought me a few drawing books. I've been practicing how to draw the great dane a lot. I have been drawing bears, Cows, and cats also... I need lots of work on humans tho. Especially hands, I hate drawing hands... My grandfather gave me this book that mostly taught him how to draw... He's been painting the same type of stuff all his life, but now he is trying to do abstract paintings and stuff. I only made one decent painting and that was with the help of him... I've been wanting to do sketches also, so I can draw those cute, or funny things my cat does all the time, I am trying to be more detailed in my sketches tho... I usually get impatient or angry at my work so to cool off I love making dumb little comic strips, lol. I have also been intrested in making films if you could consider that art, lol. Nothing interesting usually goes around here so I just make skate videos, or whenever I can get the chance make videos for school projects and try to make them funny. (I have made two: first one: A+ second: A++)

[smkie]

awesome..and oh yeah film was a huge thing at the art institute..we had a media library..you could go in and check out just about any type of equipment you wanted ...sigh..they said we would miss that the most when we were gone..the access to equipment was incredible..just keep practicing..but don't try to do a perfect right off..just do gestures..looking at your negative space as well as your positive..those little spaces inbetween things are huge keys to getting everything where you want it to be..with animals and drawing from life..i like to do gesture sketches..little quick 10 second things..and see how much i can get..it is devine practice and fun too..first line i put down is the spine..a quick line that tells you so much..the second and so on would be the weight bearing then everything else falls in place and if you get a gesture that says what you want..it isn't hard to go back in and put your muscle hair and bone at your convenience..you got the "life" with your quick lines....i always put my most detail in the eyes..i spend more time there then on anything else because all the life is there..the emotion..everything..once i saw Gg come out of her bedroom and i saw a tiny flash of a reddish color in her pupils..later that day i was painting a bird and i added the tiniest bit of red to the dark burnt umber i was using for the pupil..it was like i had pumped life smack into it..and i have done that ever since..i saw a pic of a squirrel once that had the loveliest blue reflected in the pupil as well so sometimes i go that route..either way the animal seems 100 percent more alive. study bones..once you understand the skeleton and how it moves your structures get stronger..especially in birds...i learned a great deal from those "how to draw animal" books when i was a kid..then as a teen i drew from any animal thing i could find..as an adult..i prefer life, if not, i prefer to take my own pics..but one thing i adore being able to do is play with them in my head making them do "people" things..not a new concept, but i enjoy it anyway. Some people can draw from the heads and others need a resource..i thought everybody could until i was in visual language at the art institute and my teacher asked how many could..there were only two of us..if i am doing a true to life tho, and especially from a photograph..i turn that sucker upside down, and will even use a magnifying glass to see each fold and shadow..following one to the next, lining everything up..i am slow and methodical, but i think accurate. Best thing about being an artist is u never get worse..and if you suddenly see that things are wrong, it is actually a great thing because now you will fix it..i know if i am in a slump to slow down cause i am about to make a breakthru..the saying the Lyfe so short the craft so long to learne...is something i believe...no one starts out great..it is practice that leads to the rewards....i had to put off for so long while i raised my children..working health care jobs for the insurance..now i am making progress i should have made a decade ago..and i still have a long way to go to be where i want to be.

[Richie12345]

Yeah, practice, that's what everybody says, but it's so hard for me... At times I just stop drawing, because I was sick of my work. People think I am a pretty good drawer, which suprises me because I have never been satisfied with my work except for a couple, plus I just have phases where drawing becomes my life. Then Film becomes interesting to me. I don't constantly paint or draw like you do... I love drawing eyes, b4 I would just put two ovals and a dot inside each one, now I like to put much more detail in it... It only took me a day to draw and shade an eye that seemed to have moisture, that reflected light, one that looked much more realistic... I then started experimenting with different eyebrows. It's pretty easy to make them, and I really get to be creative with it. I usually make thin eyebrows, but sometimes I make them thick and hairy, but I think the eyes play a major part with the eyebrows, whenever I have the eyes very watery like the person is crying iI like to make thin delicate eyebrows and stuff like that... I gotta work on sketching, I focus in detail too much. I gotta draw tha important lines so then I can work on the detail... I don't get waves tho, when I draw a person on a beach, I can never get the waves down... Anyways, I wanna get something done this summer for your "Year of the Dog" thread, I have a bunch of ideas...

[smkie]

Thank you so much :D i really hope we have a show.even if our best buddies don't give a hoot about art.(i know i show them all the time and they say so what wag wag).i am just thrilled you wrote that..most people just try to hard and that takes the fun out of it...just let it be your expression...like playing music. ;) No one sits down to the piano and expects to be able to play mozart the first time...or the first year.. Have you ever had a day when looking at people u just notice eyes, or heaven forbid i won't ever forget the day of noses..it started at the bank..and this man in front of me had a peculiar nose..so i started checking out everyone's nose..it wnet on all day. or hands or ears really you learn with your mind not your hand..first there then later it transfers to your fingertips..it is all in seeing the world and it can be a delightful process..if you just let it flow.

[Richie12345]

Yeah, a lot of times I draw books, curtains, and stuff in my mind, whenever I am in the mood for drawing but don't have a pencil and paper near me. I wish I do right now... I am near lake michigan as we speak... I would just love to sketch out the beach, I am visiting there for a week... I am living in a cottage in the woods right now, and there is so much nature here