Possible Mucus or not???

[ChiBree]

Ok, I walk away to take care of family, come back and my thread is locked! Nothing to do with my original questions, no answers , just arguments. Lets just hope this stays on track.

9:54 PM - temp tonight was 100.3, so we had the drop yesterday morning when it went to 98.6. Her belly is hard, pups are moving, and she had more energy tonight, Kinda spunky :)

I noticed a now smelling stringy clear discharge coming from her. Not alot, but two strings came out. What is this? Today is day 63 from the FIRST day of breeding.

[Boxerowner]

Oh cool! Its shouldnt smell but clear discharge is a good sign it should happen anytime now. keep close to her.

[LabBreeder]

Remember what I said in the PM's? That is why it was locked.

Don't know what it is...I let some others know via PM that you are expecting pups hopefully they'll come. :)

[corsomom]

I dont know anything about having pups but I hope someone comes on to help you. Red?

[Boxerowner]

Clear discharge is normal as long as it doesn't smell bad.

The temp thing sometimes is up and down I usually take temp 3 times a day and log it in a book and that way I can see whats normal and whats not.
The temp will usually peek and then drop down below 99 and stay. Thats when you know its time but I have heard that cant always go by temp.

[Squidbert]

Just checking back in to see how everything's going. Still no pups yet huh?.. hope everything is going well! :)

[ChiBree]

Nothing is happening yet. Like I said, yesterday day 62 temp droped to 98.6, 12 hours later is was back up and has stayed up. Today is day 63. Puppies are still real active. Her belly is hard. And then the stringy clear mucus today. Two strings came out. She's eating , no nesting, and stays close by me. :confused:

[Boxerowner]

My Girls temp dropped low like that a couple of times so I was thinking that was it but it went back up. Thats why I take temps 3 times instead of just morning and night.

BTW if pups are still active they are fine. You are doing a great job so don't worry. You are prepared for an ER so just keep cool because she can tell your tense and that will make her tense.

[pitbulliest]

wow..I read through the whole last thread where everyone was having a debate...I just realized this is all recent..I will be on here waiting for the news...this is just exciting now!

[ChiBree]

So do you think this is not it? Gosh tommorrow is day 64 from the 1st breeding.

[Boxerowner]

My girl whelped from her second breeding.

[ChiBree]

How my first question got turned into all that non sence is beyond me. I just wanted some useful advise and to talk through my concerns and jitters!

[ChiBree]

She was bred May 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th and tied every time. What do you think? I also counted from the very first day. So May 5th was day 1.

[Boxerowner]

How my first question got turned into all that non sence is beyond me. I just wanted some useful advise and to talk through my concerns and jitters!


I know what you mean:rolleyes: I get nervous every time and need reassurance.

[Boxerowner]

She was bred May 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th and tied every time. What do you think? I also counted from the very first day. So May 5th was day 1.


Thats why I wouldn't worry so much just make sure the pups are active and mom is doing as OK as she can. She is really big and if she was bred that many times don't expect just 2.

[ChiBree]

This is mine and her first time. The ultra sound showed only two. I'm hoping for more! For her sake mostly because though babies will be huge if there are just two. She is big, but the pic makes her look alot bigger, especially cuz she's laying like that.

I just would like to pin point it sence I work full time 5 days a week!

[Citrus007]

Sorry it got locked. I tried my hardest not to argue and at first my comments were soley on the pups but then I got annoyed. Later I tried to bring it on track again but then it was locked. Sorry that it was partly my fault.

Anyways I know nothing about births but good luck.

[Boxerowner]

Xrays are more reliable when it comes to counting pups.

[ChiBree]

Well I call my Vet tomorrow and we'll go from there. He may want to see her, not sure yet. If he does I'm going to suggest an xray. I think I'd like to take her in just to be safe. But I've kepted him posted all the way thru from her 1st exam to make sure she was in good health for breeding to her last exam to confirm she was pregnant and her ultra sound. I call them all the time with updates.

I just thought the yesterday was it. Temp dropped = 12 to 24 hours...PUPS. But nope, hasn't happened.

[Boxerowner]

Well Its prob to late for an Xray.

Nope it has to stay down for it to be time.

Just relax and enjoy the quiet while you have it. lol

[bubbatd]

Breeding is no wham ,bang ,thank you Mame.,It depends on the breed and the size. I do understand that small breeds have the most problems. I'm glad you're monitoring carefully and are in touch with your vet.Am anxious to hear the outcome.

[Citrus007]

Right before the thread got locked. We were making fake bets on what wee think the pups will be. I'm guessing 2 girls and 1 boy. I cant wait to find out if I am right.

[JennSLK]

3 boys and a girl.

[Boxerowner]

I say 3-4 all boys. :D

[Squidbert]

Hey! I called 3 boys already!!! :p

[Boxerowner]

Well im off! Good luck hope to hear good things in the morning:D

[Citrus007]

3 boys! No way! Yes you did call that earlier but I was hoping you would have changed your mind. Lol. so how is she coming?

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Hey, chibree. If there is mucus then you are really close. Keep an eye on the mucus though. If it is really fowl smelling or becomes colored (green for example) then get her to the vet.

I would also like to say I am sorry about your thread being locked. I was a big part in it. But like I said it makes me mad when people try to run down newbies because they have questions and need help. And she (summit) was getting on my nerves big time.

But now that is all behind us and we get to wait for PUPPIES!!!! YAY, it is sooooo exciting.

By the way...I say 5 pups----4 boys and 1 girl.

[Citrus007]

How come everyone favors the guys! Just because she is so big! I like girl dogs better so maybe that is why I favor them but the whole thing is just a guess.

I wish I could offer more help. I don't know a thing though. Just waiting for news.

[LabBreeder]

I thought pups were on the way? Man, you got me all excited and now I'm still puppy pictureless...awww. :( Oh well! Hopefully tomorrow morning you'll have 2 boys (for sure) and if there are any more they'll be girls

[MomOf7]

2 boys and 2 girls...Born mid morning around 11 am.

[LabBreeder]

Wow, times included in the birth now. I say they'll be at least 2 boys...if any more they'll be girls ( I know I'm repeating myself :) ) and they'll be born @ 1pm

[Bailey+Ralph]

Well i already said 1 of each in the locked thread :D

Sorry that the thread was locked Chibree, but this one is doing ok :)

I came on the PC now at 7:40am just for this.................and there are STILL no puppies :(

I will check in again later today.

[LabBreeder]

I know! I'm disappointed. :( I was expecting a pup...at least the PM sounded like a pup was on the way. Ahhh well, I still say by 1pm they'll be here. :)

[ChiBree]

She's fine , acting fine, eating, and no pups no action at all! The mucus yesterday was very stringy and thick and a clear color. I didn't hold it up to smell it but there was no obvious order. I did take it from her and pulled it out and it came out in two stretches of strings. I thought for sure we were on our way.

My Vet opens at 8:30 this morning and I'm calling. Letting him know whats going on and go from there. Is it possible to get an xray this late in the stage?

[ChiBree]

Oh and I wanted to add....I'm hoping for little girls :)

[Bailey+Ralph]

Let us know as soon as you have spoken to the vets :D

[ChiBree]

Yes I will let everyone know what they say. Its 7:37am easternstanderd time here. I have an hour to wait !!! I came to work today :( My husband is there with her. He's very good with her and knows what to look for as well. and I will be calling every minute I get!

[Bailey+Ralph]

That must be so hard to have to be away from her now :(

[ChiBree]

It sure is! I miss her already and I just feel so much better when I'm with her.

Those pups of hers are sooo active. I LOVE feeling them. Sometimes it feels like I feel their whole body, and sometimes a hard head!

[Bailey+Ralph]

Just to think, soon enough you will be watching her nurse them :) Aweeee

[ChiBree]

I can't wait ! I'm just praying for a safe deleivery!

[ChiBree]

Just curious, but how long do Vets usually let the pregnant female go?

[ChiBree]

Vet Update: Zoey goes to the Vet today at 3:45PM.

[Bailey+Ralph]

Good luck Zoey...........Let us know as soon as you can ok Chi :D

[savethebulliedbreeds]

It depends on the dog and the vet how long they will wait. My vet with smaller dogs likes to take them on the 65th day because of them getting to big. But like I said it depends on your vet

[Squidbert]

Oh geez.. I just got back.. still no pups.. pout pout..
Man it must be torturous for you to not be there with her. Make sure you let us all know as soon as you can! Good luck again with everything.. we'll be here twiddling our fingers.. :p

[Boxerowner]

No pups yet eh? Well eveything sounds fine to me.

[ChiBree]

Yes I'm sitting here at work, with guess what on my mind???? It is tourchure being away from her BUT I'm leaving early and gong with her to the Vet.

What I was thinking is if she didn't take on the 1st day like I've been counting, she could still be at day 61, if I count from the last day bred. Right??? Since she was bred May 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th. She had full ties on every day as well.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

You are very right that it is possible that she never took on the first day. Not sure what to tell you about due date though. Sometimes its hard to guess an exact date with multiple breedings.

[Boxerowner]

Yep she very well could be at day 61.

[Boxerowner]

I wouldn't rush in to a section just yet but I'm no vet. I have Boxers its very unlikely for a Boxer to need a section with a chi its different they are I have heard notorious for needing a section. I would just make sure that the pups are still moving and mum is feeling OK. The clear discharge is normal and can start at anytime during pregnancy.

[ChiBree]

The suspence is driving me crazy. Can my Vet take an xray to see how many there are?

[Boxerowner]

I don't think at this point they would. But I was just thinking maybe they would.

Also you were asking about food I would recommend Innova. I think it would be fantastic for a chi.

[pitbulliest]

don't take so many X rays on the dog especially when she is pregnant...x rays have strong radiation..not good for the dog not to mention the pups

[sweetbassets]

Great!! The discharge is normal, most likely her mucas plug. If it was green and had a very foul oder then that is a bad sign. If she's not already, I would take her to her whelping area. When she starts getting restless, laying down, standing, turning in circles, pawing and digging, thats a good sign one is on the way. Remember if she is pushing and straining for an hour and not producing a pup then you need to rush her to the Vet immediately. Enjoy watching, and try not to help too much, I have heard that if you help too much then it can sometimes cause them to abandon the litter leaving you to raise the pups yourself. Don't hesitate to help if she needs it, or if a pup needs it, but just enjoy watching if she dosen't need your help.
Good Luck!!

[sweetbassets]

He he, sorry I got so excited I didn't read through all the posts. I guess I'm a little late!
Well, good luck anyway. I hope everything goes ok, and we get to see pics of healthy happy mom, and puppies soon!!

[ChiBree]

So far I haven't had any done. My vet did do a free ultra sound for me though. That was exciting and I seen the heart beats!



don't take so many X rays on the dog especially when she is pregnant...x rays have strong radiation..not good for the dog not to mention the pups

[ChiBree]

Thanks! Where can this be purchased? I've fed Iams religiously for years. My pug is 7 years old and has never had a sniffle (knock on wood!)


I don't think at this point they would. But I was just thinking maybe they would.

Also you were asking about food I would recommend Innova. I think it would be fantastic for a chi.

[ChiBree]

I have a Basset too! Bentley James ! He is a red and white. Super dog and gets along so well with my tiny dogs. We love him!



He he, sorry I got so excited I didn't read through all the posts. I guess I'm a little late!
Well, good luck anyway. I hope everything goes ok, and we get to see pics of healthy happy mom, and puppies soon!!

[savethebulliedbreeds]

I personally don't think that helping with the delivery will cause the mother to abandon the puppies. Just make sure you let her clean them and stuff too. You can't do ALL the work for her.

My chi that needed a section did not want the pups after the surgery and actually growled at them. But she was not in labour before she had her c-section. She was probably wondering where the hell all those pups came from lol. It took her a few hours to get used to the fact that they were hers but everything was fine in the end. If for some reason you do have to get a c-section done and she is not in labour before it, make sure you have mammalac or another milk replacer available just in case she does refuse them.

Just wondering if other people have had any trouble with the bitch rejecting the puppies after being handled to much during delivery? Im wondering cause I am always right in there when my dogs are delivering and I have never had a problem.

[Mach1girl]

Not me, Dixie is animal aggressive to animals she does not know, and I was very concerned, but man, she loved them so much and still does.

Funny how a dog has to HAVE the animal for her to be nice to it!!!

[sweetbassets]

I agree it won't always cause that, but Libby's mom was helped too much by the breeder and she wouldn't take care of the pups. On the other hand Libby had to have a c-section and had did not experience giving birth, but she still was the best little mama. I was just saying that I have heard and know know someone who had experienced this by helping too much with the delivery. Not saying this will happen, but there is a more of a chance then if you let her do it herself. Unless she, or the puppies need her help.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

I wasn't trying to prove you wrong sweetbassets, if that is what you were thinking. I had just never had a prob with it before and was wondering if anyone else had. Anyways sorry for rambling I just wanted to make sure that is not what you were thinking.

[Boxerowner]

Here you can find a store near you for Innova

http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=stores-tab

I have never had problems with rejection I handle my pups from birth.

[sweetbassets]

Oh I didn't think that. I'm sorry if I sounded offensive, I wasn't trying to.:o :)
Libby's breeder told me about her problems she had with Libby's mom, and my breeding books that I used when learning more about whelping said the samething. I'm sure different dogs different situations. I just wanted to give a little heads up just incase because I know it can happen, but not saying it will.
:)
Again I'm sorry if I sounded offensive. I'm not one to start fights or get into arguements, I try to avoid them:D . Everyone here is so nice that is the last thing I would want anyone to think.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

No you didn't sound offensive at all I just wanted to make sure.

[ChiBree]

Did you keep her whole litter?


Not me, Dixie is animal aggressive to animals she does not know, and I was very concerned, but man, she loved them so much and still does.

Funny how a dog has to HAVE the animal for her to be nice to it!!!

[Mach1girl]

No, I had 8 pups, one died in a few days following or so, I kept three and gave 4 away. The parents were not health certified or titled wih the UKC, the father had a few wp titles with the adba. However, the moms side had an impressive peidgree in UKC and dad did in ADBA.

It was a planned pregnancy, but unplanned. It was planned for a later time, but happened sooner then expected.

I kept one because she is disabled, and the other two for weight pull. I also have 2 adult APBT and two Pekes at home. Yes, I have a circus, but proud of them.

I would have kept every one of them if we had purchased another home sooner. Mine now is too small, but we are looking as we speak at acreage.

I still keep in contact w/ the pups in their new homes, one is spayed and 3 are showing!

I will never breed again no matter what. It was too hard to part with them, and I still hate the thought of giving them up.

[ChiBree]

Oh no, why did one die?? :(

[ChiBree]

Well I am off. Driving home picking up Zoey (who by the way is doing fine per my husband, no stress, babies active as ever) and we are heading to the Vet!

[ChiBree]

By the way, Zoey was bred with a long haired Blue Merle. I'm excited to see how the pups turn out!!!

[Mach1girl]

Oh no, why did one die?? :(
He ingested/inhaled milk, it was in his lungs.

I cried, as I took pics of them before getting in the shower and when I got out he was dead.

It is normal to lose a pup in a litter, just so you know it, it happens quite often I hear.

[Boxerowner]

Oh I cant wait to hear what he vet says! Hurry back:D

[Bailey+Ralph]

I hope something happens before i go to bed tonight :)

[Roxy's CD]

Puppies! yeah!!! :D

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Sorry to get off topic but Roxy's CD, your dogs are BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!

[savethebulliedbreeds]

GRRRR!!! When is she gonna get back from the vets!!! I hate waiting LOL....But just imagine how chibree feels.

[Boxerowner]

LMAO I know what you mean!

I thought she was back!!

[Citrus007]

this waiting is boring. I want some puppiess! I am not a very patient person, lol.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

I hope she writes AS SOON as she gets back from the vets.

I am not leaving this computer until I hear from her LOL.

[Roxy's CD]

savethebulliebreeds Aren't they!?!?! LOL, really though, their both just mutts. but I love'em

Where are these puppies!?!?!? She better post pics right away!

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Roxy's CD. Those two dogs are so gorgeous. I will have to get a good pic of Magnus, my amstaff to post as my pic. Its hard thought because he doesn't stand still long enough to get a good picture LOL.

[Bailey+Ralph]

Ok, it is 9pm here......i waited up until gone midnight last night waiting for these puppies.
My eyes are closing..........don't think i will make till midnight again tonight :(

[Roxy's CD]

Well their both in school, and stand for exam. was one of the first things they had to learn.

They have to practice it everyday when they get groomed! :D LOL

You've got a staffie!!! pics pics pics.


*darn it, puppies*

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Bailey & Ralph: Oh come on you can do it lol.

Hehe it's only 2pm here.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Roxy's CD, Magnus stands when he knows he needs to...like when he is around kids. He knows its his job to stand and let them pet him. Around me he knows he can be a jacka$$. He was trained as a therapy dog and a police dog.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

P.S. Chibree. Sorry for taking over your thread and talking about other things, but we are bored and need something to do while we wait for you to get back from the vets:D

[Bailey+Ralph]

P.S. Chibree. Sorry for taking over your thread and talking about other things, but we are bored and need something to do while we wait for you to get back from the vets:D

I am trying so hard to stay awake, Chibree.
They need to talk loads to keep me checking back on the thread :D

[Roxy's CD]

Yeah, this sure is taking a long time.... *twiddles thumbs*

So who here likes Treatza Pizzas? I've got a Skor one. Anyone want some???

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Don't tease us like that Roxy's CD LOL. Do you think it would melt if you airmailed it????:D

[Roxy's CD]

Yeah, it's pretty darn hot out here...

How long does this take? I hope nothing's gone wrong. Maybe she's back and just hasn't had anytime to give us an update. Life is super busy with new born pups I'm sure. They're probably awfully cute too and she doesn't wanna leave them alone.

[LabBreeder]

With the PM I got yesterday from her it sounded like she was in the middle of a pup...oh well. More waiting. :(

I want puppies. I want puppies. NOW! c'mon little puppies...see the world.

[Roxy's CD]

Puppies are great! I wish she'd hurry up and give us some pics...

What's the deal with the bets?

I say: 4 in total, 3 females, 1 male.

[Zoom]

Here, puppy puppy puppy...come play on Chaz now...

[savethebulliedbreeds]

I said 5 in total, 4 boys, 1 girl.

[Squidbert]

Still no word eh..? Boy oh boy...

Anyone want some popcorn?? :D

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Popcorn would keep if you air mailed it LOL....it might even be popped by the time it got here with all the heat:D :D

[Squidbert]

Haha.. good plan!

Now.. would you like that with butter..? Salt...? Other seasonings..? :p

[Bailey+Ralph]

Who said Popcorn? :D
I like mine buttered :)

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Now.. would you like that with butter..? Salt...? Other seasonings..?

I like mine buttered

Ditto:p

[Squidbert]

Lotsa popcorn and butter comin your way..!! Now.. if only we could get a gigantic screen TV and watch a movie or two while we wait.. :p

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Wow, chibree is going to have a lot of nothing to read about when she gets back lol.

You bring the popcorn, I've got the T.V.:D

This thread makes me want to watch 101 Dalmations, exept they are chihuahuas and they won't be kidnapped lol. But I still like the movie.

[Citrus007]

Yay Roxy, I'm not the only one who thinks they will be mostly girls.

Popcorn! Movie theater style is the best. Lots of butter.

Oh puppies where are you?

[Citrus007]

Of course, no one responds when I post so then I leave and when I come back there are a bunch of new posts. I just can't keep up. Lol.

Just waiting for the puppies, I have to go soon though. :(

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Citrus, I am responding to your post! LOL

[Squidbert]

Maybe if we all chant in unison..?

PUH-PEES! PUH-PEES! PUH-PEES!

You never know..?

:p

[Bailey+Ralph]

That is..........I am full on Buttered Popcorn..........and now i have to go to bed, and she didn't even let us know how the vets went yet :(

Good luck Chibree and Zoey.........I am pretty sure that when i get here tomorrow there will be 2 puppies, 1 of each :p

[Citrus007]

PUH-PEES! PUH-PEES! PUH-PEES!

I hope they are cute, oh hat am I saying. of course they will be cute.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Geez, still no word. I don't wanna wait anymore!!!!:( :( :(

[poodlesmom]

I'm hoping all is AOK with momma & the pups. I keep checking back looking for an update.

[Citrus007]

me too, nothing. I dont think all this is good for me. I really want to see pics and a before and after omparison of the mom.

[ChiBree]

I'm here I'm here!!!

[ChiBree]

Its only 7:50pm here in M ichigan!

Well the Vets took longer than expected of course. We ist had an ul;tra sound....wait is that two pups??? Yup two pups....wait! Is that her liver or a third???

[ChiBree]

Wait! It is a pup theres the third heartbeat. Could there be 4??? Lets do an xray. Guess what.......there are 4 !!!!

Also tonight is day 64. (from the 1st day of breeding) NO nesting,strong appitite. Babies going crazy. Also another string of clear stringy ordorless mucus came out when she peed. And no action!!!

If I count from day 1 of the 1st breed its day 64. If I count from the last day she was breed its day 61. She was bred on 4 days in arow. May 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th.

My Vet said he's giving her until Monday morning and if she hasn't had them....then c-section. (out of cuiosity whats the normal price uses have paid for these???)

So I'm glad that there are 4, since she is so LARGE! If there were only two I was getting scared!

Opinions? Advice?

[Roxy's CD]

4!! I think I said 4!! 1 boy and 3 girls!!!!

[txdachshunds]

Your almost there, Chi! I remember the excitement of my first litter too, you could of sworn I was the one in labor. C-secs here in my hometown in TX, run almost $500.00. The emergency clinic is almost $700.00. Hopefully, everything will be ok. Sounds like she is still in the first stages, just keep watching her. I had one that never showed any signs, she just got mopey.

[Citrus007]

Ooh, now I lost my bet, I will revise it, 3 girls and 1 boy. yup. yup. How exciting.

I agree with Roxy on the bet.

[Roxy's CD]

So far, I'm on the money *cheers myself* Woo Hoo!!!

I'm doing good! LMAO

[ChiBree]

My vet told me anywhere from 600 to 700. I thought that was very high. So I'm hoping for her to go this weekend. I keep telling her but she's not listening to me :) Yes, we have had no signs. ONly she sleeps alot and yesterday and today the stringy discharge. What is that exactly and what does that mean???

[Red_ACD_for_me]

My vet told me anywhere from 600 to 700. I thought that was very high. So I'm hoping for her to go this weekend. I keep telling her but she's not listening to me :) Yes, we have had no signs. ONly she sleeps alot and yesterday and today the stringy discharge. What is that exactly and what does that mean???
For the record, I just read through this whole thread *smiles* An acquaitance of mine had 7 babies from her chi bitch *choke* she was slightly oversized to. Her chi was a pet store pup and a BYB breeding to a male chi pup also bought from the pet store as well. I think they weighed close to 8 - 10 lbs ( mom and dad that is ). I hope your girl is okay and the babies. If you have to do a C-section will they spay her to at the same time for you to save some money? Or are you planning on breeding her again? Good luck to you, I hope they come soon!

[ChiBree]

Thanks! Zoey is 5lbs, well mostly 6lbs, (cuz she LOVES to eat). But I don't concider her oversized? No I am not spaying her.

[JennSLK]

Hey I said 3 boys and a Girl!!!!!

[ChiBree]

I'm hoping for 4 healthy girls and a very happy safe mommy :)

[Roxy's CD]

I say 3 girls and a boy.

So far your right about the number of them Jen :D But there's gonna be more girls :) HAHA

[ChiBree]

Can anyone tell me what the stringy clear discharge is? And what it means?

[yoko]

4 boys!

[Boxerowner]

OH congrats!!! I say 3 boys 1 girl.

The discharge is just a normal part of this pregnancy.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

The stringy slimy stuff is her mucus plug. It can come out very slowly for a few days. It doesnt just pop out like the cork in a wine bottle lol. :p Not saying that that is what you thought. Try not to worry so much. I know its hard not too but.... Congrats on the 4 pups, I was close when I said 5....I still think there is one little sneaker hiding in there:D ...even though thats pretty hard to do in an xray.

[Bailey+Ralph]

No puppies :(

But there is 4 :eek:

Ok, now i say 2 of each :D

[Squidbert]

Oh wow.. I just got back! 4 eh? WOW!! I guess I'm wrong.. pout.. well then I'd say 4 boys! :p
I hope everything goes well and she pops them out soon!!
Good luck momma and puppies!!! :D

[savethebulliedbreeds]

WHERE ARE THOSE PUPPIES!!!!:p I don't wanna wait anymore.:)

[ChiBree]

Saturday Day 65-

Temp last night at 6:15pm was 100.2 This morning at 8: 11am it was 98.4

Could this finally be the drop? 5 days ago it dropped to 98.6 in the morning and still nothing.

I'm afraid to get excited.

[Bailey+Ralph]

This could be it..................... :D

[pup-man]

Here we go....

[ChiBree]

I must add these sure are 4 lively pups! She's laying on my lap (which she won't leave) and they are just rolling around on my legs! The xray was awesome to see them.

[Boxerowner]

Is her temp still down?

[ChiBree]

Is her temp still down?
I took it at 8:11ma this morning - its only 11:25am now. I have not retaken it yet. Should I this soon?

[Boxerowner]

Did your vet say if it looked like she would whelp them ok? babies not real big?

[Boxerowner]

I would check at noon. Like I have said before I take temps 3 times a day.

[Boxerowner]

If its still down at noon its more than likely time and you should have pups in 12-24 hours.

[ChiBree]

I was waiting for noon. So if its still down then we are on our way? What if it has went up?

He said that there was really no way to actually say YES she's will deffinatly have trouble delivering. He said the pups were a "little big" but he wants nature to take its course. He seen no reason to intervene at this point. I've already called and let them know her temp dropped in case I have to page in an emergency.

[bubbatd]

Just checking in ..... may not get back on for 24 hrs....so will expect some pups ! Good luck !!

[ChiBree]

I've read and have also watched two welping videos where it says and shows the first pup taking the longest to come out. My vet said no longer than 10 minutes, and he wants me to call. (no longer than 10 minutes with the pup crowning) I watched an actual birth recorded on video and that first pup took much longer than 10 minutes.

I'm just curious as to what I need to expect and when to know there is a problem. Especially if there is that chance that they are too big. Can anyone help?

[Boxerowner]

If it goes back up then crap I dont know what to tell yah.lets just hope its still down:D

[ChiBree]

I KNOW! I have my fingers crossed :confused:


If it goes back up then crap I dont know what to tell yah.lets just hope its still down:D

[Boxerowner]

With this being your first litter I would say 10 min and take off to the vet if not coming. I have had to assist a bitch in her first whelp with a pup and pull gently but after the first they come fast.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Don't expect the first one to come really quick. But once he has crowned then it shouldnt take long at all. I agree with the vet if it takes longer than 10 minutes once the puppies has crowned then there is a problem.

[ChiBree]

I'm getting nervous!!!!

The breeder with the stud dog offered to whelp Zoey's litter for me.

For $100

Is that just crazy?

[Boxerowner]

Thats wrong!! They should be willing to help without being paid.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Yeah, that is crazy. I whelp peoples litters for them all the time. Even if they didn't use one of my studs. I do it for free. But thats just me. You can do it yourself. You know what you are doing (even though you think you don't) and your vet is only a phone call away.

[ChiBree]

Shes getting pick of the litter.

But she said she's very experienced and knows how to avoid a c-section. If a pup is turned she knows how to go in and turn the pup and make it come out. She feels that all Vets just go ahead and do a section without trying other avenues. She feels if I call my vet he will just be lazy, be only worried about getting there, getting it done and going back home to bed and collecting the money. I told my vet what she had said I think he thinks I was second guesing him (which I wasn't) and I may have ticked him off. But I was only looking for his advice on what she had said.

Does this sound right? (the going inside of the female)

I decided I was doing it myself.

[ChiBree]

Sooo you can come over then? :p

Yeah, that is crazy. I whelp peoples litters for them all the time. Even if they didn't use one of my studs. I do it for free. But thats just me. You can do it yourself. You know what you are doing (even though you think you don't) and your vet is only a phone call away.

[Boxerowner]

Take her temp now I wanna know!!!!

[ChiBree]

I'm on my way to take it........

[ChiBree]

Oh My God!!!!! Its 97.9 !!!!!!!!

[Boxerowner]

Its time!!

[Bailey+Ralph]

:D :D Come On The Puppies :D :D

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Its a lot easier to maneuver puppies in big dogs. I don't suggest trying to do it in a little dog. There isn't a whole lot of room in there and you risk injuring her and the puppy.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Congrats....GET READY!!!

[ChiBree]

So when do you think things will start to happen??? She's still not even nesting. She only wants me.

I can't beleive the temp is still down. So do I still take it tonight at6 like I normally do? Should it be down or up?

[Boxerowner]

Yes take it tonight. I was told once that it would go back up after 12 hours but I cant remember. I think she might start tonight late or tomorrow afternoon. let me see if I can find my temp chart from my last litter.

[Boxerowner]

well cant find it. I dont have a clue what I could have done with it. Oh well I will find it when we dont need it.

[bubbatd]

Had to check in..... your first signs will be panting, then stopping and grunting a little. Your sire's owners is nuts !! I went at 2:30 in the morning, 30 miles to help out !

[Roxy's CD]

No puppies yet!! :eek:

Wow, she's really holding out on us isn't she! LOL

[ChiBree]

Had to check in..... your first signs will be panting, then stopping and grunting a little. Your sire's owners is nuts !! I went at 2:30 in the morning, 30 miles to help out !
So far she's still sleeping..................

Yeah I was wondering what everyone else would think of that.

[Boxerowner]

Nothing yet. lol

[ChiBree]

Saturday 2:30pm Update _ Temp is 97.9

[Bailey+Ralph]

Come on puppies :D
This is the 3rd night in a row now that i have been clock watching and hoping for news before bed :(

[LabBreeder]

c'mon puppies! I say they'll be born ! 2:30am central time and 2 boys, 2 girls.:D

[Boxerowner]

awesome temp is still down!! Common puppies

[ChiBree]

Its only 3:03Pm here. Your in England? Wow! What time is it there.? The babies are going crazy in there! I'm still hoping for 4 healthy girls.


Come on puppies :D
This is the 3rd night in a row now that i have been clock watching and hoping for news before bed :(

[ChiBree]

Yup temp is down. We got excited again and took it. So far been 3 times today and its only 3pm! So would you say this is deffinatley it?


awesome temp is still down!! Common puppies

[Roxy's CD]

I have no idea but I sure hope so!!!

When did the vet say he would do a c-section, like if they haven't come out yet?

[ChiBree]

C-section scheduled for Monday

[Boxerowner]

Yep that should mean its time!

[Roxy's CD]

Yeah!! Puppies woo hoo!! Make sure you have someone there ChiBree that can take pics seeing as your going to be very busy! And don't forget that we're here waiting!! :D

[ChiBree]

How much time??? By tomorrow you think???

Yep that should mean its time!

[ChiBree]

My husband will be there right by my side! He loves her just as much :)

Yeah!! Puppies woo hoo!! Make sure you have someone there ChiBree that can take pics seeing as your going to be very busy! And don't forget that we're here waiting!! :D

[ChiBree]

How do I post pics on here anyways?

[Roxy's CD]

I opened an account with www.photobucket.com. You just upload photos there. It's really easy.

Than you click on the Insert Image button, the one with the moutains, I think. And copy and past the URL from photobucket.

[Bailey+Ralph]

Than you click on the Insert Image button, the one with the moutains, I think. And copy and past the URL from photobucket.


It is 8:25pm here now chibree :D

Roxy you know that you can just copy and paste into your post?
You don't need to click the insert URL :D

[Boxerowner]

How much time??? By tomorrow you think???


By tomorrow night she should have them.

[Roxy's CD]

Bailey - Really?!?!?! I think I'd tried to do that and it didn't work... You have to copy and paste it from a website though right? I think I tried to copy and paste it from photoshop! LOL

[Bailey+Ralph]

Bailey - Really?!?!?! I think I'd tried to do that and it didn't work... You have to copy and paste it from a website though right? I think I tried to copy and paste it from photoshop! LOL

Yes, just copy the Image tag from Photobucket and paste it right into your post :)

[ChiBree]

4:25pm - no action....

[Boxerowner]

OK man waiting sucks!

[ChiBree]

I don't think I can wait much longer!!!

[ChiBree]

With it being warm now (summer time) should I have to worry about keeping the pups on a heating pad?

[dr2little]

Come on puppies :D
This is the 3rd night in a row now that i have been clock watching and hoping for news before bed :(

Me too...come on wee ones...:D :D

[RedyreRottweilers]

ChiBree, puppies cannot control their body temperature for the first 7 days or so of life.

They should be slightly elevated up off the floor, and yes, you should have a warming area available for them.

I use a heat lamp, but many people use a heating pad as well. Just make sure it is well covered and not TOO hot. You should leave a thermometer on top of the pad so you can see it. It should not be hotter than about 100 degrees.

[ChiBree]

Ok thanks Red. I bought a heat lamp and my husband freaked! Only because an irresponsible friend of his used one for his dogs in his barn and the pups knocked it over and burned the barn down. (no pups were injured) So I returned it and decided to use the heating pad. I just didn't know if I needed it with it being so warm. I'll grab one of our thermometers and put it in with them. I'll cover the pad with a towel and keep it on low.

Did you hear? Her temp went down this morning and has stayed down since my last check at 2:30pm. We think its time!!!........

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Hey, I am just checking back. Still no puppies eh? Oh well you will have them soon enough. I won't be on for the rest of the day, so good luck and take care. And if you get pups before I get back then congrats.

[ChiBree]

I will for sure update ! Thanks Save!

[dr2little]

I've been checking every few minutes...I'm so excited, nervous, worried, anxious as are all of us here, right along with you. I looked at her pregnant belly in your CP...OMG she's such a sweet dolly!!! Can't wait to hear that she's doing well and laying with her healthy pups...Best of luck wee Chi..;)

[Bailey+Ralph]

Bedtime for me now.
Good luck Zoey and Chibree :)

[ChiBree]

TEMP UPDATE: 6:18PM = 98.4

So its stayed down below her normal 99.9 all day!!!

[Squidbert]

WOOP WOOP!
I just checked in .. so many new posts to catch up on! And each new page seemed to take forever to load! :p I'm sitting in my chair wiggling.. saying "cmon cmon! Load!!"
I can't wait till she has them ! Oh my! It's getting so exciting now!!
Just think.. soon you'll be looking into the sweet little faces of 4 squirming bundles of joy!! :D

[filarotten]

Oh my goodness, I am so stressed, you would think it was my dogs having puppys. Keep us updated.

[dr2little]

Oh my goodness, I am so stressed, you would think it was my dogs having puppys. Keep us updated.

Me too fila, I can't wait to hear and am obsessed with checking...hope it's soon and all goes well.

[Buddy'sParents]

Oh my goodness, I am so stressed, you would think it was my dogs having puppys. Keep us updated.


Me too! I haven't responded yet because I don't know anything about breeding... but I am anxiously biting at my nails! I hope that all goes well!!

*We want puppies!*

[Boxerowner]

OMG!!!!!!!!!! puppies hurry up!!

[Roxy's CD]

I just got back from the playdate with the poochies and no puppies yet :(

Darnit, really guys, the outside world isn't that bad!!! LOL

She'll probably go at like 4 am when we're all in bed... LOL

[LabBreeder]

Dag nab it...we need pups! :) I still stick by my...what'd I say...2:30am puppy arrival

[ChiBree]

Saturday 9:50pm Update:

She has slepted all day, not acting herself at all. Even when grandma and grandpa came over she didn't get out of my bed, they had to go in my room to see her. Got her up an hour ago and took her potty. More clear stretchy gooy stuff. Then she wanted right back in my bed. She showed first signs of nesting I think. Scratched a little in the blanket and pulled it with her teeth then layed down. She's been by herself all evening now. She never lays around like this.

PS - NO i'm not letting her have them in my bed!

[Citrus007]

I think they are close! YaY! That would make a mess in your bed.lol

[ChiBree]

I thought I'd better add that before I got slammed for letting her in my bed :) :)

She's acting very different !!! And those puppies are jumping out of her skin!

[Roxy's CD]

I say around 4ish, she's gonna have them!!

Yeah! Puppies, I will try my hardest to stay up with you ChiBree! LOL

[Fran27]

I'm too tired, I hope to see puppy news tomorrow...

(I know, first post in this thread but I just read the whole thing :D).

[ChiBree]

Ok so when the first one comes...I'll hop on and post and you'll reply, right???;)

Yeah! Puppies, I will try my hardest to stay up with you ChiBree! LOL[/QUOTE]

[ChiBree]

Is it normal for her to be sleeping this much?

[Boxerowner]

Im here and will try to stay on if you need any help.

Do you have yahoo, MSN, or AIM chat?

[Boxerowner]

Yep it sure is. Dont get worried if she tries to nap for 5 -15 min during active labour either.

[Roxy's CD]

ChiBree I'm gonna try.. LOL. It shouldn't take very long should it? No more than an hour for four pups?

[ChiBree]

I have a yahoo account but I don't have IM


Im here and will try to stay on if you need any help.

Do you have yahoo, MSN, or AIM chat?

[ChiBree]

Well, so far all's I'm getting from her is sleep! Could be all night!!! I'm going to sleep next to her :)


ChiBree I'm gonna try.. LOL. It shouldn't take very long should it? No more than an hour for four pups?

[Roxy's CD]

I thought she might've been nesting a bit earlier?

Have you seen anymore signs? Or it was a false alarm?

[ChiBree]

Temps been down all day. She's been sleeping all day and acting WAY different. More mucus. And just a little nesting. Not eating food but taking treats.

[ChiBree]

You made me just 2nd guess myself and I took her temp again. (poor baby just layed there and barely moved) It was 97.7

[Boxerowner]

awwww...poor baby it will all be over soon.

[Roxy's CD]

Hmm.. Not quite, I'm sure she'd rather have a thermometer stuck up her ars than four puppies sucking her teats off! LOL

[ChiBree]

No new action. She is just wanting to lay in my bed! She's NEVER been this way. We just went potty again and there was more of the clear discharge. When will this happen? She's barely nesting.Tomorrow mrning will be 24 hours!

While waiting...here some of my babies.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/Babies.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/Zoey030405006.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/Zoey030405006.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/Zoey030405006.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/9e4e1b70.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/NewPuppy040106038.jpg

[Boxerowner]

Great pics!

Tomorrow night I say she will have them but when she starts it should go quick.

[ChiBree]

oops. I forgot these and added too many of Zoey.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/LEXIE0.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/Brodies1sthaircut061706008.jpg

[ChiBree]

Even though it'll be past 24 hours?

Great pics!

Tomorrow night I say she will have them but when she starts it should go quick.

[Saje]

I didn't realize you had 8 dogs. How come so many? Do you rescue. I have four rescues myself.

I forget, who's the dad of your pups? Do you have pics? Did you post them before? I forget

[ChiBree]

Noooooo. Not 8 dogs! I'd love to but my husband wouldn't be very happy :)

[ChiBree]

The dad is an AKC Long Coat Blue Merle. He is not mine.

[summitview]

Are any of your dogs spayed or neutered?

[Saje]

Noooooo. Not 8 dogs! I'd love to but my husband wouldn't be very happy :)

it says eight in your profile

[Boxerowner]

Are any of your dogs spayed or neutered?

What does that have to do with the thread?

chi I'm sure she will whelp by then if not call the vet for a section.

[Boxerowner]

Im sorry but that was just rude and uncalled for.

[summitview]

Responsible owners and breeders have nothing to hide.

[Boxerowner]

Responsible owners and breeders have nothing to hide.

What ever:rolleyes: You don't need to be rude and take it off topic. You seem to be the drill Sgt around here and it gets old fast. If you don't like it don't read it or post in it.

[summitview]

If you don't like it don't read it or post in it.

Likewise.

[ChiBree]

Wow you guys don't quit eh?
I have 50 dogs running wild in my house, unregistard, unvacinated, un spayed, un neutered, knocking boots with anything they see.

[Citrus007]

Come on we don't want to make ChiBree's thread locked again, that wouldn't be fair. Besides this way whoever continues it will be at blame but you will be at no fault.
I love your dogs. I have to admit I favor your basset and yorkie, though that is just because I thought those pictures were so adorable. Not to say the others weren't.
I'm so excited. Its time for puppies! Sorry I have no advice to offer I just get caught up in the exceitement.

[Boxerowner]

Lmfao!

[Boxerowner]

I'm here to help chi through this and not be rude. I'm very sorry chi for even responding.

[summitview]

Wow you guys don't quit eh?
I have 50 dogs running wild in my house, unregistard, unvacinated, un spayed, un neutered, knocking boots with anything they see.

Yet another perfectly reasonable question left unanswered. Beginning to wonder and worry more for the dogs.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

You know what summit. I am seriously sick of you ragging on her. You have no reason to be in this thread other than to attack her. Screw off and leave her alone. If you wanna b!tch lets start a new thread and talk about how I have 7 dogs and 6 are not spayed or neutered. I will start if for you just so you will leave her alone. And now I am done with you in this thread because I don't want it locked on her again.

[Citrus007]

So... hows the dog doing?

[ChiBree]

I'm pretty concerned as to why my personal business is ANYONES business. Apparently I thought this thread was about learning and asking EXPERIENCE breeders (which I AM NOT) for guidence and suggestions.

I bred my Zoey because I WANT TO. Hows that?

And if anyone else there wants to know? ALL my dogs are neutered. Zoey is not. I take in shelter dogs , as well as foster.

Would you now like my yearly salary, bra size, and eye color before I can get some frickin serious answers???

I think I've wasted my time.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Please Chi, don't be scared off by her. She shouldn't even be in this thread. Most of us are here to help you.

[summitview]

I bred my Zoey because I WANT TO. Hows that?

You already know the answer.

[Citrus007]

Hey what about my question. Hows your baby doing?

[ChiBree]

She's sleeping :) I'm trying to stay up but its getting hard. All she is doing is sleep, sleep, sleeping!

[Citrus007]

Aww, must be tiring for her, and you I imagine. Hang in there, these will be adorable pups.

[Buddy'sParents]

Summit... try this thread on for size...

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showpost.php?p=378783&postcount=1


ChiBree--please ignore those that are not here to help you. There are tons of Chazzers here that care a great deal about you and your babies... how is your girl doing?

[Boxerowner]

I'm pretty concerned as to why my personal business is ANYONES business. Apparently I thought this thread was about learning and asking EXPERIENCE breeders (which I AM NOT) for guidence and suggestions.

I bred my Zoey because I WANT TO. Hows that?

And if anyone else there wants to know? ALL my dogs are neutered. Zoey is not. I take in shelter dogs , as well as foster.

Would you now like my yearly salary, bra size, and eye color before I can get some frickin serious answers???

I think I've wasted my time.

Thats what we are here for at least we are supposed to be here for not to ridicule.