Possible Mucus or not???

[Citrus007]

Ahh I have to go to bed. I really wish I could be of more help to you but you know a lot more about this than I do. I'm here for moral support, and I want pictures! Lol, hope to here lots of updates tomorrow.

[RetrieverLove]

I've been watching for updates on this thread since it was first started. I'm so excited for you, please keep us updated. I'm sorry that people are nagging at you. I have to say, I'm not paticularly happy that this breeding is going on, just because of the amount of shelter dogs that need homes. But every breeder starts somewhere, and kudos to you for for really trying and seeking answers to all of your questions. That alone sets you apart from the majority of BYB's. Your Chi is absolutely adorable, and I can't wait to see the puppies. Best of luck =)

[Bailey+Ralph]

Responsible owners and breeders have nothing to hide.

Summit...........didn't already give your views on the s/n thing in the 1st thread that Chibree started??

Can't you let it rest or start a new thread.........You could title it "Who has thier dogs s/n? If not then you have to tell us why!!"

[Bailey+Ralph]

My oh my............Now where are these puppies :confused: :p

[Fran27]

So... any news yet?

[Roxy's CD]

Yeah... I assumed that she was gonna pop last night. LOL

[Squidbert]

Cmon cmon!!
Oh my.. I think I'm gonna burst with excitement if she doesn't pop soon!! :p

geez.. I have a headache.. :p

[Boxerowner]

Well I pop on just for a second no pups eh?

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Jeepers, this is taking tooo long lol. I wonder why chibree hasn't informed us of anything today? I hope she is still around

[Bailey+Ralph]

Jeepers, this is taking tooo long lol. I wonder why chibree hasn't informed us of anything today? I hope she is still around

I was wondering the same thing.......I hope that she hasn't run into problems with the dog and puppies.

I also hope that she hasn't got herself into trouble with the mods for starting that other thread that has been locked :(

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Yeah, I hope she never got banned. the only real reason she did that is so that summitview would get out of this thread. If anyone should have been banned its me.

[Aussie Red]

unfortunatly maybe she has had enough ???

[Saje]

She's not banned. She's probably just busy with her dog.

[LabBreeder]

Man, I leave for a while and junk starts again! That's just so sad that chibree keeps getting hassled and harassed by "the other person". Talk about post stalking! :p

Chibree, if you're out there, let us know what's going on. We're dying for news and pics.:)

[Roxy's CD]

I think the pups have probably been born and she's busy like Saje said... puppies are a handful.

[bubbatd]

I can't believe this !! I just got back after 24 hrs. and checked in here first for good news and I see bickering ! Please folks.. stay on the straight and narrow for the support that was asked. Any preaching should be PMed or start a thread for a free for all ! Now crossed fingers and toes for healthy pups and a Mom.

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Chibreel, are you out there? I am sooooo anxious to know whats going on!!! Hurry up puppies (if you're not born yet), I can't take it anymore lol.

[txdachshunds]

RE: My vet told me anywhere from 600 to 700. I thought that was very high. So I'm hoping for her to go this weekend. I keep telling her but she's not listening to me Yes, we have had no signs. ONly she sleeps alot and yesterday and today the stringy discharge. What is that exactly and what does that mean???

They normally will sleep alot while the babies get into positions. Stringy discharge is also normal before hand. Just make sure it is clear. If it gets dark brown or green, get to your vet immediatly. Or if you find a puddle of it. I read on one of your post that her temp was 97 something? Be careful and dont let it go too long. If she is mopey, or starts shaking a little like she is cold, you will need to go ahead and take her in before the pups or her get in trouble. I hope everything is going well with her and you. Please keep us posted. We are all pulling for you! :)

[Roxy's CD]

I think she might not be coming back... The puppies should have come by now.

[txdachshunds]

I agree.... sure hope everything went okay.:(

[Squidbert]

Me too.. I hope they're all ok.. oh my.. now I'm getting nervous..
sigh.. :(

[Citrus007]

me too, maybe, i dunno. I just want puppies and for them to be ok.

[bubbatd]

Grammy's wringing her hands !!! I pray all is well !! I've been thinking that maybe things started and there were complications...I hope I'm wrong.!! I know she'll do whatever is right for her baby... so she may just be a busy gal ! Hope so......

[ChiBree]

Well things did not go as well as planned. Zoey started labor at 3am Sunday morning. She was able to pass her water bag but then from there on nothing happened. Paged my vet and he called me back and stated we needed to come in and he'd induce labor and if that didn't work he'd have to do a section. We ended up taking her in and the injections didn't work and he had to do the section and sent us home to wait.

Well, we got a call around 10am. Not good news. Zoey had went into cardiac arrest and her heart stopped on the table. Basicaly she had past away. (Its still so hard writing this!)

He acted quick and was able to revive her, she was gone maybe 3 minutes but had also lost a good amount of blood. To make a horrible story short, we were able to go get her tonight and all her pups. They are all under observation. Everyone goes back to see him tomorrow (Monday)

[Boxerowner]

That is very sad! I hope she heals fast and is feeling better soon. I'm really sorry.

I really hope you have decided to do more research/learning before breeding again and Zoey has been spayed or will be spayed. Not a lecture I promise.

Now where are the pictures? :D

[Aussie Red]

oh no I'm so sorry Chi. I hope that it will all turn out good for you. This breaks my heart

[ChiBree]

Zoey WILL NEVER EVER be bred again.

[Saje]

Aw. Sad news. I hope she'll be ok. I'm surprised the vet let you take them all home! See, that's why I don't breed! Too much risk among other things and with chihuahuas it's even harder :( I could never risk losing my dog.

I'm sure she's getting lots of cuddles from you. Give her some from the rest of us!

[Aussie Red]

oh I'm glad but is she going to be ok ????

[Saje]

You must have been so scared.

[thewhitewitchone]

I read this entire thread tonight for the first time and am so sorry that things went wrong. You have my prayers that Zoey and her babies will all pull through and be fine. I so wanted a happy ending with just healthy mom and pups...and was so upset over what happened. Thank God your Vet was able to revive Zoey.
This has been quite a "ride"! Keep us posted (I'm sure you will) and I want to see pics too. What sexes are the babies?

Pam

[ChiBree]

I've only taken this one. I feel they all need to rest and with Zoey still kinda out of it I don't want to bug them.

But here is everyone


http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j111/brenjoe1/ZoeyandBabies070906.jpg

[dr2little]

OMG, I swear that my heart stopped while reading your update. I'm so sorry that your poor wee girl went through so much but very relieved that she's still with you and the pups are here as well. Keep us posted, I and all of us are hanging on every word at this point..
Get better sweet Zoey, get some well deserved rest... and good luck with you pups dear little mama.

[RetrieverLove]

They're precious, and I'm so happy that Zoey is alright. You must of been terrified when you were told that. I have to say though, I am estatic to hear that you will not be breeding Zoey anymore.

[Boxerowner]

OMG!! Cute !!!!!!!!!!!!! I want the black one:D

[bubbatd]

OMG !!! My heart stopped !!! I'm soooooooo glad you didn't lose her !!! I had a gut feeling something was up. When you can, give us updates on Mom and the pups ! Number and sex. What a weekend for you !!! Hugs to all!

[ChiBree]

I will never put her thru that risk.. EVER. It was horrible. Worst 24 hours of my life and just talking about it now I'm sobbing.
On the good note - she's being a good mom so far.

[ChiBree]

She ended up having 2 boys and 2 girls!

I am sleeping next to the playpen tonight. If I can sleep that is :(

[Boxerowner]

I'm just really happy that even though I was freaked at the beginning of what you said (thinking she had passed) that she is doing good and her pups are well.

[ihartgonzo]

Wow, how unimaginably scary. =( I'm so sorry you both went through this, and I'm happy that all 5 of your babies came through. It's great that she is taking to feeding them, at least.

I feel bad that you had to learn the risks of breeding first-hand, the hard way. I definitely understand why you're spaying her. Breeding can be really heart-breaking. It just is not worth losing your much-loved little girl to produce puppies.

[dr2little]

Thanks for posting that beautiful picture, gorgeous babies and a very brave a sleepy mom. She looks so cozy in her soft bed and I'm sure she'll be back to 100% in no time. It must have been so frightening for you, but now you have her with you and you can all begin the healing with those wonderful little creatures that she created. Good Luck ChiBree, I'll stay tuned for the latest on this new family..:)

[bubbatd]

I posted before I saw the picture !! Bless her little heart !!! So glad she came back for her babies !!! Maybe my Golden Angels helped !

[ChiBree]

She had a weal uterus, which is why she wasn't pushing much. What almost took her was the anestisia (I know its spelled wrong)

Now I'm petrified to spay her, although I want to. I just don't know if I could handle having her put out again, when she couldn't handle it this time.

Zoey is doing ok. Resting. She is eating. Not a bunch, but eating. I can only imagine what she feels.

[ChiBree]

Weak uterus

[bubbatd]

We're all posting at the same time !!! Shows our chaz support to you !! WE CARE!!!!

[summitview]

Zoey WILL NEVER EVER be bred again.

Sometimes this is what is needed. Glad you learned. I'm done on the topic, best of luck with the pups and momma.

[Buddy'sParents]

I'm so glad that they are all okay and that mom made it. Bless her heart strong heart!

The picture is beautiful!

[poodlesmom]

Congratulations! So sorry she had such a rough time of it and you had such a scare! I'm so glad her and the pups are doing good! They are precious!

OMG!! Cute !!!!!!!!!!!!! I want the black one:D

When I 1st looked at the pic, I only saw 3 pups. Then when I read Boxerowner's post I had to go back & look!:)

[Aussie Red]

the babies are precious Chi. all the best for your baby girl. Now about you how are you doing ? I hope that you are taking care of yourself too. This was such a bad ordeal and I know that you really love your baby girl. You need to rest now too as does Zoey. Take care and all get much needed rest.

[Roxy's CD]

I hope they all do well, and I'm glad that all the pups and mom are ok.

All the pups are gorgeous :D

I'm sure it was a scary experience, at least you got good news though!

Just had to point out I was pretty darn close to the time, guessed one less male and guessed right on the money with the amount of pups... :D

[jess2416]

They are beautiful :) I am sooo sorry that you and Zoey had to go through that, it must have been the scariest experience...Please keep us updated on mom and pups :)

[savethebulliedbreeds]

Hey, chibree. I haven't been on all day. Wow, what a horrible experience for you and zoey. Im glad everything is all right though. Just to ask a quick question. Did they use intraveinous anesthetic or gas? The reason I am asking is because the gas is a lot easier on them than being on an iv anesthetic. Just wanted to let you know for when or if you get her spayed. Wow what cute pups. CONGRATS. You should be very proud of yourself and Zoey. Its great to hear that she is being a good mom. Don't worry she will be back to her old self before you know it. They have a way of bouncing back really quick. Again CONGRATS on the new babies and after this ordeal i think you should keep 'em all :D

[Citrus007]

Oh my when yous aid she had passed I was about to cry. I am so happy they are all okay. They are adorable. You have done a good job and I admit I am happy she is getting spayed. I don't know if I could handle hearing that she almost dies again.

[MomOf7]

I havent been home all weekend and checked this thread as soon as I got back and nothing had been posted. I was worried just for that reason.

Those are some big puppers for such a small ma ma. Awful cute though:)
Glad all is ok so far! Sorry you had to go through such a horrible event.
Breeding is not for everyone.

[Bailey+Ralph]

Chibree (((HUGS)))

I am soooo sorry that poor little Zoey had to go through such a hard time :(

My heart skipped a beat reading your post!

I hope that she heals well and fast now.
The puppies are absolutely adorable :D

Oh and 2 of each as i predicted :p

You all rest now and please keep us updated on thier progress..........with tons of Pics!!

[RedyreRottweilers]

Well things did not go as well as planned. Zoey started labor at 3am Sunday morning. She was able to pass her water bag but then from there on nothing happened. Paged my vet and he called me back and stated we needed to come in and he'd induce labor and if that didn't work he'd have to do a section. We ended up taking her in and the injections didn't work and he had to do the section and sent us home to wait.

Well, we got a call around 10am. Not good news. Zoey had went into cardiac arrest and her heart stopped on the table. Basicaly she had past away. (Its still so hard writing this!)

He acted quick and was able to revive her, she was gone maybe 3 minutes but had also lost a good amount of blood. To make a horrible story short, we were able to go get her tonight and all her pups. They are all under observation. Everyone goes back to see him tomorrow (Monday)

I am so glad your bitch survived.

Whelping can be very dangerous, especially for small girls like Chis.

THIS is why we discourage those from breeding their pets.

I am glad she made it through the surgery, and hope all goes well with the bringing up of the babies.

Once the puppies are a few weeks old, if you would like help with a contract that requires spay/neuter of the puppies, let me know. I have several good ones I can pass on to you.

With 4 puppies you need to keep a close eye on her for eclampsia. Talk to your vet about what to look for, or do a web search. Eclampsia in small bitches can also be deadly...

[Red_ACD_for_me]

Very scary! I am glad she survived that, my heart dropped when I read about Zoey. It's too bad they didn't just spay her while she was already under so you don't have to go through it again. I would get another opinion from another vet if once she is strong again to go through the spaying. How many pups are you keeping? I hope you never ever breed a bitch again, it is way to risky and shouldn't be taken lightly. Good luck and keep ud updated!

[Kase]

What a scary experience for you! I'm so glad Zoey and puppies are ok, they are adorable.

[DanL]

Sometimes this is what is needed. Glad you learned. I'm done on the topic, best of luck with the pups and momma.

Your outpouring of understanding and caring is overwhelming.

[Giny]

Aw, she looks so exhausted in that picture. I'm glad to hear that she's now ok, it must have been a frightening experience for you. Get your rest as well as Zoey's and take good care of yourself.

[Citrus007]

Just checking in for another update. I was so scared I forgot to say congratulations on everything working out ok. Are you keeping any of the pups? This was a roller coaster for me and I wasn't even there.

[Fran27]

Aww I'm glad she got out ok :( What a scare...

How are things doing today?

[Zoom]

Poor Zoey! At least it all ended well. Good luck with the pups!

[dogstarsleddogs]

What a scare! More Hugs! That must have been horrible!!! Also glad that everything turned out fine. You have some beautiful puppies!!! They're so adorable!
Hows Zoey and pups doing now?

Once the puppies are a few weeks old, if you would like help with a contract that requires spay/neuter of the puppies, let me know. I have several good ones I can pass on to you.

I know you were talking to Chibree, but could you maybe pass one onto me too? I've told all the people interesting in the pups that I will require a spay/neuter, I just want to make it "offical". Dont want the samething happening again.

[Squidbert]

OMG!! I just read all the new posts! I held my breath while reading the update.. I was so scared you were going to say they couldn't bring her back! Thank god she's ok! And the pups of course.. they are beautiful!!

I'm so glad it all turned out ok.. you did a wonderful job.. now you need to rest as well.. rest up and take care of that sweet new mommie.. and keep us updated when you get a chance..
Take care hun! :)

[RedyreRottweilers]

What a scare! More Hugs! That must have been horrible!!! Also glad that everything turned out fine. You have some beautiful puppies!!! They're so adorable!
Hows Zoey and pups doing now?


I know you were talking to Chibree, but could you maybe pass one onto me too? I've told all the people interesting in the pups that I will require a spay/neuter, I just want to make it "offical". Dont want the samething happening again.

I sure will.

I am so busy now, we have started a huge renovation project and I have been working 10 and 12 hours a day on it, but when I get time, maybe this evening, I'll send it to you.

:D

[LabBreeder]

wow! I leave for the weekend and miss everything!

I'm glad Zoe and the pups are finally getting to relax and be momma and babies. No more drama, no more passing...just happy, healthy (?) puppies!
Congrats Zoe.

* I was right...2 boys and 2 girls. *

[Alisha2324]

Beautiful babies, i was way freaked when i was reading that post like the rest. Good luck with everything and keep us posted!

[SummerRiot]

OMG Chi!!

That is VERY VERY scary!

So glad I have a male lmao!!

wow.. As I was reading, I found I couldn't read quick enough to keep up with the adrenaline! lol

SOO glad that she made it out alright! My heart sunk when I saw that the vet lost her at first!

On the upside, she did give birth to 4..(HUGE) beautiful babies :)
Her little belly looks so stretched out now eh?
Love the little smiley face on her vetwrap :) Very cute.

Will you be keeping any of the pups at all??

Make sure dewclaws get removed!!

[ChiBree]

Been EXTREMLY busy with Vet visits and taking care of everyone.

Zoey is recuping, she is still pretty slow and punky. The little cream female wasn't very strong so I'm bottle feed ing every two hours. She seems to be improvng so far. I have my fingers crossed. The other pups a feeding well and getting chunky.

Just been very very busy and wanted to check in and see what had been going on. Thank you to everyone who;s posted and all your encouraging words!!! They all mean sooo much!!! I appreciate everyones help and concern so much. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!!

[RedyreRottweilers]

A word of advice.

Bottle feed the STRONGEST PUPPIES, and let the smaller one have as much mom's milk AS POSSIBLE.

OR, express her milk and bottle feed that.

NO formula can compare with what she has.

[bubbatd]

I agree with Redy ....give the little one hind teats .

[ChiBree]

I've tried. She's just not latching on very well. I take the others away and give her one on one time. So I'm supplimenting her per my vets advise. he'd like to see her take 2 tablesppons from me per day.

Can I say how satisfying and rewarding it is to see her try to eat with me and manage to get some and produce a full belly? her little belly will fill up and look so much better!

I know I'm going to fall in love :)

[ChiBree]

Sorry I can't spell today.

[bubbatd]

I had a pup which the Mom rejected at birth .... I did the clean up etc , but she would latch on either. Took very little food from an eye dropper. Vet thought it was brain damage and we sent her on..........

[ChiBree]

She's very strong, gets around good, and so far we see no reason for distress. So I'm crossing my fingers.......

[RedyreRottweilers]

ChiBree, if the puppy is having this kind of trouble, I would be tube feeding it, and I would be expressing the BITCH'S MILK, NOT feeding it formula.

[RedyreRottweilers]

also, if it has not been done, this puppy should be carefully checked for a cleft palate.

[ChiBree]

My Vet delivered her, and she's been back to him twice and we go again on Monday. I'm feeding Mothers 1st Milk. My Vet suggested I supplement her.

I have a 30 year breeder that is feeding 2 pups of her own right now round the clock and has surrogate moms with milk who offered to take her for me, but after discussing with my vet he would like to see her stay with her mom since its only been since Sunday and she is not going downhill.



also, if it has not been done, this puppy should be carefully checked for a cleft palate.

[LabBreeder]

I'm glad the pups are o.k. for the most part. Any more pics?