View Full Version : Help! Save The Bullied Breeds Needs Info, Pics & Suggestions
savethebulliedbreeds
07-04-2006, 05:18 PM
Hey, guys. I recently started a website to help save the "Bullied" breeds. This website is not only for the bully breeds but the breeds that have been bullied by the media and the government. I am in need of some things for my website. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for:
(1) Pictures- Of Amstaffs, APBTs, American Bulldogs, Rottweilers, Chow Chows, Boxers, Mastiffs etc.
Please include: name & age of dog...breed...titles or training it holds...and your first name and location if you would like it published on the site.
(2) Rescue Organization Websites
(3) Facts & myths and any other info you may have.
Please send to savethebulliedbreeds@hotmail.com
Like I said any help or suggestions would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
Feel free to take a look around the site and sign the guest book too!
http://savethebulliedbreeds.tripod.com
Please note it is still under construction and still needs a lot of work.
Thanks
savethebulliedbreeds
07-04-2006, 05:19 PM
Hey, guys. I recently started a website to help save the "Bullied" breeds. This website is not only for the bully breeds but the breeds that have been bullied by the media and the government. I am in need of some things for my website. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am looking for:
(1) Pictures- Of Amstaffs, APBTs, American Bulldogs, Rottweilers, Chow Chows, Boxers, Mastiffs
Please include: name & age of dog...breed...titles or training it holds...and your first name and location if you would like it published on the site.
(2) Rescue Organization Websites
(3) Facts & myths and any other info you may have.
Please send to savethebulliedbreeds@hotmail.com
Like I said any help or suggestions would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
Feel free to take a look around the site and sign the guest book too!
http://savethebulliedbreeds.tripod.com
Please note it is still under construction and still needs a lot of work.
Thanks
mozza
07-04-2006, 05:25 PM
do you want akita they are a bullied breed ???
savethebulliedbreeds
07-04-2006, 07:05 PM
For sure...Akitas are definately a bullied breed. Sorry I didn't list them too, but there are just too many breeds that have been bullied.
LabBreeder
07-04-2006, 09:43 PM
Quick question: When you say that APBT and AmStaffs pass 95% of temperament tests and the other 121 breeds are only 77% do you take into consideration that: A Temperament Test can be considered a "snap shot" of a puppy on a particular day. And that in order to make the best comparisons, the test should be done under similar circumstances, in a similar environment, and at a similar time of day for each breed to get an accurate "score".
I just think that if you mentioned this...or had statistical proof posted from a valid source...it wouldn't make owners of other breeds feel like you are saying their dogs aren't capable of passing a temperament test with a high %. JMO and the only pics I had were one's to the site you have on your front page...but I will search online for some that show "bullied" breeds at their best...and in true form. :)
LabBreeder
07-04-2006, 09:48 PM
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm
It says, "In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society, pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%....beagles 78.2%...Golden Retrievers 83.2% (more here) http://www.atts.org/stats1.html
Results as of 12/2005 (but you see my point) and the Labrador Retriever at 91.4%
Also you have to look at how many dogs were tested per breed. APBT had 515 tested, 430 passed, 85 failed....Labs had 676 tested, 618 passed, 58 failed. So, you can see that it's not exactly fair to all breeds or accurate all the time. If the exact same amount were tested per breed it would be more accurate. I guess it gives you a general idea though.
LabBreeder
07-04-2006, 10:26 PM
Quick question: When you say that APBT and AmStaffs pass 95% of temperament tests and the other 121 breeds are only 77% do you take into consideration that: A Temperament Test can be considered a "snap shot" of a puppy on a particular day. And that in order to make the best comparisons, the test should be done under similar circumstances, in a similar environment, and at a similar time of day for each breed to get an accurate "score".
I just think that if you mentioned this...or had statistical proof posted from a valid source...it wouldn't make owners of other breeds feel like you are saying their dogs aren't capable of passing a temperament test with a high %.
JMO and the only pics I had were one's to the site you have on your front page...but I will search online for some that show "bullied" breeds at their best...and in true form.
LabBreeder
07-04-2006, 10:26 PM
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm
It says, "In a recent study of 122 dog breeds by the American Temperament Testing Society, pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%....beagles 78.2%...Golden Retrievers 83.2% (more here) http://www.atts.org/stats1.html
Results as of 12/2005 (but you see my point) and the Labrador Retriever at 91.4%
Also you have to look at how many dogs were tested per breed. APBT had 515 tested, 430 passed, 85 failed....Labs had 676 tested, 618 passed, 58 failed. So, you can see that it's not exactly fair to all breeds or accurate all the time. If the exact same amount were tested per breed it would be more accurate. I guess it gives you a general idea though.
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 04:04 AM
I found this statistic on many different webpages. Not only just pit bull websites. But I understand what you are saying...that they put those two breeds specifically out there and lumped all the other 121 breeds together to get the average of 77%. Some of those breeds scoring very high and others scoring very lowl. Its definately not fair to those good breeds to lump them in with the not so good ones (I dont want to say bad ones because there isnt any). But I think that they used that statistic to get the point across that these two breeds are not the monsters a lot of people think they are. I will definately put some better statistics on there about that though. I also think that you are right that they have to be a lot more careful about controlling their tests. Thanks for the comment and the info.
Edward
07-05-2006, 04:33 AM
Good luck to you!
Especially here, recently the media's been casting their usual bad light on dogs. Not just ones traditionally are "public enemy #1", but all breeds. Our two which have lovely natures are getting victimised by people who believe the media :(
It's a sorry state of affairs, so I wish you luck
LabBreeder
07-05-2006, 04:43 AM
Hey, I'm just glad it was helpful. Maybe post a link on your site to the temperament stats page so people can see for themselves that it's actually from a legitimate source...not saying you aren't, but you know how some people have to "see" for themselves. Then some of them will probably see that their breeds scored lower than the APBT :) and maybe not judge so harshly.
Bailey+Ralph
07-05-2006, 04:45 AM
Good luck with the site :)
I have emailed a pic of Bailey for you if you would like to use it in your Photo-Gallery :)
LabBreeder
07-05-2006, 05:06 AM
http://www.strongerthanall.net/kidsnpits
www.pbrc.net/misc/PitBullBook8x101.pdf
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/DogSurvey.htm
http://www.greeleytrib.com/article/20050619/READERS/106190051/-1/TRIBEDIT
http://www.screamerspitbulls.com/pbrcletter.htm
Ok, I think that's as many positive pit bull related sites and articles that I can find at this time of the morning. :) :p I'll try again tomorrow for more.
Roxy's CD
07-05-2006, 03:37 PM
presa canario - 91.7 % Higher than the labs ;) I'm just jokin around.
They didn't test many of them though.
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 04:49 PM
Thanks so much for the pics and the info. I dont take any offence to what you said about posting a link to the statistics, labbreeder, don't worry. Like I said, I appreciated any feedback or suggestions or anything, so thanks again. Thank you bailey+ralph for the picture. I will post it as soon as I can. Do you mind if I put your first name and where he lives?
mozza
07-05-2006, 05:13 PM
I Hav Sent You A Faw Bit's
About Akita's
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 05:19 PM
Thanks soooooo much.
LabBreeder
07-05-2006, 05:28 PM
There was one breed where they only checked ONE dog and gave it 100%. That's just unfair. :mad: For a truly accurate count, they should get the same amount of dogs for each breed and test them. Varying amounts mean varying percentages. But it does give a good idea...:)
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 05:43 PM
The organizations that do these test should definately be more careful about controlling their tests.
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 05:43 PM
The organizations that do these test should definately be more careful about controlling their tests.
savethebulliedbreeds
07-05-2006, 05:44 PM
Sorry I don't know why that posted twice.
LabBreeder
07-06-2006, 03:58 AM
http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/ashland.k12.mo.us/nf/page/stubby.jpgSgt. Stubby 1917-1926
This Pit Bull was found by Private John Robert Conroy on the campus of Yale University, in 1917, while training for deployment to the European front of WWI. Stubby was a brown and white patched little puppy with a 'stubbed' tail, hence his name Stubby. During the course of his stay at the camp with Private Conroy, and the other service men, Stubby became familiar with all of the bugle calls, the drill marching routines, and even learned to give a dog's version of a salute. He would would put his right paw on his right eyebrow when a salute was executed by others around him. Stubby's ability to salute struck a chord with the training camp commander and the dog was granted permission to remain with Private Conroy, even though pets were not allowed in the training compound. Stubby traveled all over, even though Conroy would have to sneak him around. He served in 17 battles across Europe. When he returned to America he recieved several metals. Stubby died on the 16th of March, 1926. After WWI Conroy returned to the United States and attended Georgetown University. Stubby became Georgetown's mascot for the football team.
LabBreeder
07-06-2006, 04:00 AM
http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/ashland.k12.mo.us/nf/page/petey.jpg
Pal aka Petey
Petey, who's real name was Pal, is probably best known for his part in The Little Rascals. He was owned by a trainer named Harry Lucenay. The black circle around Petey's eye wasn't always there! When he went for a screen debut in 1923 they painted a black circle around his eye to add more character. When they tried to wash the circle off it wouldn't and stayed on for the next twenty years. Pal also played a role in Buster Brown from 1925 to 1929. No one knows where Pal was barried. Two different pet cemeteries are claiming to have the dogs remains.
LabBreeder
07-06-2006, 04:04 AM
http://schoolweb.missouri.edu/ashland.k12.mo.us/nf/page/pit9.jpg
http://65.214.37.88/ts?t=3342501812399887534
http://65.214.37.88/ts?t=15520865884338166056
http://www.pitbulls-breeders.com/pit-bulls-breeders.htm
I said I'd find you some more pictures, links and info. :) I hope you enjoy the "famous pit bulls" in the previous 2 posts.
Bailey+Ralph
07-06-2006, 08:28 AM
Do you mind if I put your first name and where he lives?
Sure :)
MOODYGIRL
07-06-2006, 11:01 AM
I sign the petition Also put it on my web site also to help you out. Also can ypu post or send me some info about your site how you want me to post it.
Also you should have used http://freewebs.com they have no pop ups
http://members.freewebs.com/
But here is some info and site I found
http://www.pitbulls-puppies.com/pit-bulls-puppies-care-training.htm
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/breed.cfm
http://goodpooch.com/attackreports.htm
http://goodpooch.com/images/pitbullinjuries.jpg
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/img/salball2.jpg
http://www.ourpitbulls.com/img/logo.jpg
http://www.ourpitbulls.com/
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images/pitbullbullsit.jpg
http://www.valleyofthesundogrescue.com/images/pitsonduty.jpg
http://www.valleyofthesundogrescue.com/apbt_fact_page.htm
http://www.realpitbull.com/MaxCoverDog.jpg
http://image06.webshots.com/6/4/92/6/77649206NklWcS_fs.jpg
Oh wait I though Pit Bulls were mean.
http://www.workingpitbull.com/images/Image7.jpg
savethebulliedbreeds
07-06-2006, 02:04 PM
Wow. Thanks for everything. I will maybe see if I can just build a new one on freewebs. I HATE popups....they drive me crazy. Thanks for all the stories and links and everything. It is soooooo greatly appreciated.
pitbulliest
07-06-2006, 11:41 PM
I have a few links to rescues and stuff on my site if you want to check it out.
http://www.pitbullproject.ca
groominggal
07-07-2006, 12:20 AM
As a dog groomer, I come across many different breeds every day. I have NEVER had to turn away a bully breed because of aggressive behavior. The "good family dogs" however, are the ones I have all my dog bite scars from! My most current one is from a shih tzu that even mom was afraid to pick up! My husband and I just got a 10 week old pit puppy that is GORGEOUS! I will try and get some pictures online to send them to you. We would love to show him conformantion and def. plan to get him into weight pulling. IMHO we don't need breed restriction laws, but OWNER restriction laws.
savethebulliedbreeds
07-07-2006, 01:26 AM
Completely agreed with the owner restriction laws. I say we do it lol. Good luck. They will think we are as crazy as we know they are.
Amstaffer
07-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Goodluck, you have a noble and difficult task at hand!
savethebulliedbreeds
07-11-2006, 11:13 AM
Thanks again, everyone.