We have PUPPIES!!!!

[dogstarsleddogs]

Starting at 7:30 this morn, Snowy had her first pup. A hefty little thing at 18 oz. From there on, we had a pup about every half hour for a total of SIX!!! We have 4 females, and 2 males. 1 is white and cream like mom, 2 look almost excactly like dad (Ranger), and 3 look like their aunt Aurora. (Snowy is the white dog in my avatar, Ranger is the black/white one with the black stripe down his nose, and Aurora is the gray/white one). Mom is taking a well deserved nap and pups are filing thier bellies. And yes, everyone is inside.

[pup-man]

Congratulations! We were worried for you.....

Oh yeah... WE NEED PICS :)

[Bailey+Ralph]

Pics pics pics :D

Congratulations, glad to know that after the worry all went well :)

[Melissa_W]

Yay! I'm so glad to hear that everything turned out okay.

I agree, we do need pics. :D

[MomOf7]

Yeah!! Glad it all came out good!

[bubbatd]

Yippy !!!! Thanks for letting us know !!! All's well that ends well !! Now pictures !

[Gallien Jacks]

Im glad mum and pups are fine, have they had their vet check up? I hope now you will be spaying her

[JennSLK]

Glad to here it all went well

[dogstarsleddogs]

Ok, I will have puppy pics by the end of the week (I really need to get a digital camera) I got some better pics of the relatives then my avatar:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/Snowy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/Ranger.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/Aurora.jpg
Yes, we are going to the vet Thursday. We did have an appt. today, but we decided to move it.
YES, we will be spaying her. We were going to have her spayed about 6 weeks after we got her, but the day is was suppose to go in, she was halfway through her heat. Me, not wanting to take extra chances in surgery, decided to cancel it. Well, guess what happened? The pups we keep are going to be spayed/nuetured, and the pups we give away, we will require spaying/neutring as part of the "adoption contract". One thing about it, if I did plan to breed her, it was the breeding I would have done anyway.
Thanks again everyone!

[summitview]

And yes, everyone is inside.

They're sled dogs. Why make a point that they're inside? We raised Alaskan Husky pups outside in Minnesota in February. I personally wouldn't whelp/raise sled dogs inside. To each their own, I just don't get why you made a point of saying they were inside. Good luck with the pups.

[summitview]

By the way, what bloodlines are your sled dogs?

[Saje]

Because of this thread Summit

http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29093

And I'm glad everything went ok Megan.

[summitview]

Well, I have to say for once I see that some experienced people gave out poor advice. Sled dogs live outside. Sled dogs whelp outside. Puppies are raised outside. Moving a sled dog inside to whelp and raise a litter will do nothing but stress her and most likely overheat her. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a working dog that lives outside whelping outside and raising the litter there. I worked for a couple Iditarod kennels and we whelped/raised their litters outside and never had a problem, never lost a pup. Had my breeding taken, my bitch and pups would have remained outside. I know most of the folks here have pets and show dogs, and I've got to say - working dogs are different. Sled dogs particularly. I wish you all hadn't convinced this poor girl to take her outdoor dogs inside for this endeavour. Anyhow, hope it goes well for her and the poor mama dog who is most likely quite confused about being inside.

[Saje]

Looks like that's a matter of opinion. Personally I don't breed but I tend to trust scarlette since she's a third (?) generation musher/breeder and raises her huskies, malamutes and chinook in Northern Canada. But I can see your points.

[Fran27]

I wouldn't know about that... I know love4pits breeds sled dogs also, and she still whelps inside. As long as everything is going well, I don't think it's such a problem...

Either way, really glad everyone is doing ok!

[summitview]

If a musher chooses to whelp their sled dogs indoors, they've most likely let the bitch acclimate to being indoors prior to the breeding/pregnancy/whelping. But the OP's dog seems to have been an outdoor dog up until these last few days. I feel changing the situation at this time wouldn't be best for the bitch. JME/JMO.

[stevinski]

We raised Alaskan Husky pups outside in Minnesota in February

lol! do you mean alaskan malamutes or siberian huskies? or a cross?

[summitview]

lol! do you mean alaskan malamutes or siberian huskies? or a cross?

None of the above. Alaskan Huskies are a type of sled dog. They are not a registered breed of dog.

http://www.cabelasiditarod.com/dogs.html

[Dizzy]

Well - what's done is done.

I am sure you could have added your thoughts to the convo, but it is too late now for that.

Important thing, mum and pups are healthy.

[summitview]

I am sure you could have added your thoughts to the convo, but it is too late now for that.

Yes, unfortunately I can't find the time to sit here day in and day out and religiously read the threads. :rolleyes:

[JennSLK]

Yes, unfortunately I can't find the time to sit here day in and day out and religiously read the threads.


Wow, OK then. Dizzy was just making a comment that you could have added to the discusion.

And I thought I took things personal

[dogstarsleddogs]

We have them inside for 2 reasons. #1) We dont have a proper outdoor pen set up yet, and #2) I can monitor the pups easier. When the pups hit 3-4 weeks, they're going outside. Anyway, I dont want another heated debate on inside vs. outside again.
Summitview- Theyre a hodgepodge of things. Mom is 1/2 sprint dog from Merv Hilpipre with 1/4 Border Collie and 1/4 Sibe. Dad is well, I really dont know what bloodlines excatly. I know his grandma was in the Yukon Quest, I dont know with who though. I do know he is 1/2 Inuit Dog, 1/4 Sibe, 1/4 Alaskan. So the pups are 3/8 Alaskan, 1/4 Sibe, 1/4 Inuit Dog and 1/8 Border Collie.
This is Snowy's brother: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/Cider.jpg
And on this website: http://www.huskypowerdogsledding.com/ourhuskies.htm Blackie, Trapper, and Mickey were all litter mates with Ranger. Smokie has the same mom as Ranger, different dad though. Trapper looks exactly like thier dad. Frosty is the great-uncle to the pups, and is a littermate of Aurora.
Denali was the pup I had picked out while up in Alaska in May of '05. Since I didnt want to fly a 7 week pup home, I had to leave her. I was the one that named her Denali.
I could go on forever about these dogs. They were my friends sled dog when they lived down here. Aurora orginally belonged to them, and Ranger was from one of thier litters. They got transfered to Virgina. (military) When that was done, they moved back to Alaska. Since they couldnt transport 16 sled dogs back up to Alaska, they sold half of them to that tour company. (Czar, Trapper, Blackie, Mickey, Nelly, Frosty, Zsa Zsa and Smokie) I have taken care of them for 3 weeks, and got to see Trapper, Blackie, Mickey and Ranger be born. I wish I could see them all again, I miss them much.

[filarotten]

I am so happy puppys and mom are doing fine. I can't wait to see the pictures. Now that they are in, I would leave them in, and not stress mom by moving her anymore.

Good Luck with the puppys.

[summitview]

Wow, OK then. Dizzy was just making a comment that you could have added to the discusion.

And I thought I took things personal

I have been adding to the discussion. I took her comment as stating that I could have replied to the other huge thread when the OP was still debating where to have the dog whelp. I took it as "You missed your chance to really comment." If it wasn't meant that way, then I apologize.

[summitview]

Mom is 1/2 sprint dog from Merv Hilpipre with 1/4 Border Collie and 1/4 Sibe.

Merv has darn nice dogs. Let's hope that part of the pedigree is strong and your pups have some of his dogs' speed!! Are you going to race at all or do you just mush recreationally? I did mid-distance and sprint racing. My heart lies in distance and mid distance. I like to be on the trail for longer than it takes me to harness up the team LOL!

[Buddy'sParents]

I'm sooo glad that all turned out well for you! I was keeping up on the other thread but I don't know a thing about it and left that to those that do breed. I am just so happy that you have happy, healthy mom and pups!

And I agree with the others, pictures!!! :D

[Mach1girl]

I have only whelped one litter ever, that being my first and last!However, after being there from beginning to end, I would never whelp a litter outside for any reason~Ok, maybe if my house burned down. It is a long, nasty, wet process, that can get even nastier if mixed with dirt/mud/mulch/leaves/fleas, etc.

Yuk

But, like I said, Im no breeder and will never do it again................That is just mo, and it makes sense.

AND~I have a working breed!

Anyway, TG for the momma and babies being alright.

[LabBreeder]

Glad the pups and mom are doing well. :)

[dogstarsleddogs]

Merv has darn nice dogs. Let's hope that part of the pedigree is strong and your pups have some of his dogs' speed!! Are you going to race at all or do you just mush recreationally? I did mid-distance and sprint racing. My heart lies in distance and mid distance. I like to be on the trail for longer than it takes me to harness up the team LOL!
LoL, I would LOVE to race, but the nearest race is about 10 hours away. :( I would like to race sprints. I did start out wanting to do mid/distance, but that doesnt always work out when your always trying to get the dogs run a mile in under 3 minutes. :p Plus its always a thrill to try and take a 90º turn going 20 mph. :p Cider is really fast, I havent run Snowy yet (dont have a harness small enough for her) but I can imagine she's the same. Aurora, Ranger and Babylon (who was on Martin Buser's '97 WINNING Iditarod team!!!) all have distance lines, and Dakota is a show Sibe, so we only average about 12 mph, so we need to work on that. I have gotten up to 25 mph, but that was maybe for like 200 yards.
Hopefully, with these pups I can add a bit more SPEED!

[Sheka]

CONGRADULATIONS! I dont know much about sled dogs, since i live in Miami but i know that all huskies, malmutues ect...ARE ADORABLE!!!! Espesically those fat lil puppies!
:) :) CONGRATS AGAIN :) :) Give them a big kiss for me, charlie and kya. And dont forget to take in that puppy breath while it lasts

[mamasobuco]

Congratulations! Can't wait to see the pics :)

[MyIrishWolfie]

Congrats!! I bet the pups are cute. Cant wait to see pics :)

[sweetbassets]

Congrats!!I'm so happy to hear that everything went ok. I can't wait to see the little one's!!

[poodlesmom]

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing the wonderful news that mom & pups are doing well!:)

[tessa_s212]

Woo for Pupppies! :D

I demand pictures!.. :) :p

[GSDlover_4ever]

Yeah!!!:D I'm so glad everything worked out.

[GSDlover_4ever]

AND~I have a working breed!


Working breed is not the same as a dog who ACTUALLY WORKS. And FYI, the ABPT (hence the T) is a terrier. Working dogs are treated WAY different than a pet or a show dog. I can understand where Summit is coming from.

[dogstarsleddogs]

Hey, got a question here- Should I be supplimenting Snowy's food with anything? Shes on a good quality all-life-stage food (30% pro. 20% fat) (the only difference in the "adult" and "puppy" food, is that the puppy food has no wheat, more salt, less fiber, less moisture and 1% more fat).
I was thinking maybe an egg a day?

[RedyreRottweilers]

Nursing bitches have TREMENDOUS nutritional needs. She should at minimum be on puppy food. By 3 weeks of age, the nutritional drag from the puppies is usually at it's peak. Bitches may need to consume several times the calorie amount of their normal diet in a day to keep up without losing body condition.

Nursing moms should have all they can/will eat of the best highest quality food you can afford. Many will need DENSE nutrition to maintain their body weight, such as eggs, organ meat, muscle meat, etc. Nursing bitches also have a need for carbohydrate in their diet.

http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_breeding/Articles/careandfeeding3.cfm

http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/feed_program_for_pregnant_and_lactating_bitches.ht m

http://www.iams.com/en_US/data_root/breeder_section/Care%20and%20Feeding%20of%20the%20Lactating%20Bitc h.pdf

[RedyreRottweilers]

AND~I have a working breed!

Just curious why you consider a Terrier a working breed?

[stevinski]

Just curious why you consider a Terrier a working breed?

i wouldnt say tht all terriers were officially a working dog but most were bred for a purpose,

e.g: border terriers were bred with a gait capable of following a horse so tht they could follow a horse on hunting trips, then they were trained to go down the hole and retrieve the prey, which could be a rabbit or a fox. There not a working breed in the sense of a border collie or a beagle but most were bred for a purpose, many dogs from working lines (like my harley) still have a very high prey dive and no fear of holes.
thats just an example of a terrier working but in the case of mach1girl i dont no how a pit bull terrier is a working breed but i no some terriers are lol

[Mach1girl]

American Pitbull Terriers were bred to work, although in todays society, THAT type of "work" is out of the question. (Thank GOD) However, working the APBT is still the dogs main purpose, whether it be catch dogs, or common PPT (Which is mostly AB, but does apply to the APBT as well) to weight pull. They are a working dog,, and besides "show" they possess a tremendous amount of drive and endurance, determination, etc...............all traits of the working background from which they come from.


BESIDES~~~This thread is not about ME, it is about this chick and her puppies, and I'd appreciate it if it stayed on topic!

[Barb04]

So happy for you. I'm looking forward to seeing the little ones.

[Gallien Jacks]

None of the above. Alaskan Huskies are a type of sled dog. They are not a registered breed of dog.

http://www.cabelasiditarod.com/dogs.html
Well I haven't read all and this as far as I can see has gone way off topic, a dog that isn't registered is recognized as a cross! I should know I bred JRTs, here they are thought of as crosses elsewhere they are registered

[LabBreeder]

Where are JRT's not a breed?:confused:

[summitview]

I have only whelped one litter ever, that being my first and last!However, after being there from beginning to end, I would never whelp a litter outside for any reason~Ok, maybe if my house burned down. It is a long, nasty, wet process, that can get even nastier if mixed with dirt/mud/mulch/leaves/fleas, etc..

My puppy yard was concrete and shaded, with 4 foot walls on each side in addition to the chain link. Outdoor sanitation isn't that hard if you have the right setup. I raised foster litters and my mentors' litters outside and never lost one.

Well, I have lost one puppy, but not from being outside. He was limp from seizuring shortly after receiving his first vaccine, and Cornell euthanized him.

On the topic, I have his brother - Archie. Do any of you know whether or not vaccine reactions are linked to anything genetically or is it just random?

[summitview]

a dog that isn't registered is recognized as a cross!

"Alaskan Husky" is a term for the generic racing sled dog. There's everything behind those dogs. It's no specific cross or mix.

[GSDlover_4ever]

American Pitbull Terriers were bred to work, although in todays society, THAT type of "work" is out of the question. (Thank GOD) However, working the APBT is still the dogs main purpose, whether it be catch dogs, or common PPT (Which is mostly AB, but does apply to the APBT as well) to weight pull. They are a working dog,, and besides "show" they possess a tremendous amount of drive and endurance, determination, etc...............all traits of the working background from which they come from.


BESIDES~~~This thread is not about ME, it is about this chick and her puppies, and I'd appreciate it if it stayed on topic!

Well, if you look at it that way EVERY dog breed is a working dog. All were created for a purpose.

[Zoom]

Where are JRT's not a breed?:confused:

Pretty much everywhere. The AKC recognizes the Parsons Russel Terrier, but not the Jack Russel Terrier, because of how varied the dogs can be. Smooth coat, broken coat, short legged, long legged...so it's still a breed, but it's not recognized. I'm still not 100% clear on the difference between the PRT and the JRT, but oh well.

Congrats on the puppies!!

[LabBreeder]

zoom - I never even looked to see if AKC recognized them or not. lol CKC does though.



*We need pics of the puppies btw*

[dogstarsleddogs]

OK, got some good news and bad news. First the bad news, Thursday morning one of the pups died. It was the little white one. She wasnt right from the beginning. She didnt know how to nurse, so we had to syringe feed her every 2 hours. She did go to the vet Wed, and she was dehydrated, but said her heart and lungs sounded fine. Wed. afternoon she was better. More active, was hardly dehydrated, and was looking like she would make it. Then the nite, she became lifeless again, and cold. When I went down to check on them at 7 am, she was very cold, and somewhat blue. I was able to give her about a tablespoon of forumula, and warm her up, but it wasnt enough. I also tried CPR, but again, didn't work. She died at 9:45 in my hands. The past 3 days have been quite sad and quite horrible. But in the end, it was probably for the better. "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die". Ecc. 3:1-2.

Now, the good news- I have the pictures!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/snowyandpups.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/snowyandpups2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/5pup.jpg

[dogstarsleddogs]

Sorry these are blurry:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/phoenix.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/pup1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/pup2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/pup3.jpg

[dogstarsleddogs]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/pup4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/cryptic07/Dogs/pup5.jpg
The last 6 pics of the individual pups was when they were only 6 hours old.

[Bailey+Ralph]

I am really sorry to hear that one didn't make it :( RIP little one!
All the others and mum are looking beautiful :)

[dogstarsleddogs]

I would like to add, that all other pups are doing great! They now all weigh in between 1.5-2 lbs. What should be the "normal" weight for 5 dy. old pups who will probably be about 45-50 lbs as adults? (Well, that can vary greatly, Snowy is 32 lbs, Ranger is 55, Ranger's "uncle" is over 60.)
Snowy is doing great. I am feeding her about 2.5 cups of food a day, (well, I put 3 cups in her bowl and she never eats it all, normally is fed 1 cup a day), plus 1/4 cup of broth and 1 egg, and she is actually gaining weight off of it.
Thanks again for all the help!

[poodlesmom]

Sorry to hear about your loss of the little white one.:(

The rest of them are real cuties! :)

[LabBreeder]

Sorry to hear about the white baby. :( RIP

The other babies are just plain gorgeous! I love the colors...and they're so darn cute. :)

[MyIrishWolfie]

Cute puppies!

Im sorry about the little white one :(

[RedyreRottweilers]

Just wondering how your puppies are doing now?

:D

[dogstarsleddogs]

Hello everyone! Update on the puppies. They're now 12 days old. Thier eyes and ears are pretty much open. Like all pups, they are blue now, but I am betting that most of them will turn out brown. Blue eyes do run in thier families, so its possible some remain blue. They all weigh about 2-2.5 pounds now. Thier coats are getting longer and thicker. I'm also betting that they will probably turn out long haired and fluffy like thier dad. Some will probably have short hair though too. They are starting to learn how to stand and walk. They can get up on all 4's, and when they try and take a step, the just fall over. They kinda crawl along with thier front legs up and push off with the back legs. When they need something, they are very good at telling you! These guys will probably be loud mouths! (Then again, which huskies arent?)
Tuesday they get dewormed for the first time.