Poo's everywhere at night.

[MyIrishWolfie]

Binn's doing really well with potty training except for at night. I lay out a pad for him and he pee's on it but poops everywhere else. At night he wakes me up by barking or just making lots of noise playing so I get up to take him out only to find out he's already pooped in the living room. How can I stop him from pooping everywhere at night?

Also, when do dogs start letting you know when they have to go by standing by the door? Is it something you train them to do.. stand by the front door I mean?

[RedyreRottweilers]

USE A CRATE.

and YES, puppies must learn to ask to go out.

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House Training

House training your dog is simple if you follow a few basic rules.

1) The puppy must have NO time unsupervised in your home. NONE.
If you are not directly watching the puppy, it should be in the
crate, or outside in a safe area. You MUST watch the puppy at ALL
times when loose in the house. Use baby gates, crates, or tie the
leash to your belt.

2) The puppy should sleep inside the crate by your bedside.
This way you can hear if the puppy should happen to need to go out
during the night.

3) You must go WITH the puppy outside for ALL trips for
elimination. You must have treats with you. When the puppy is
urinating, say "GO PEE PEE" in a nice praise tone of voice the entire
time. When she is finished, pop the treat into her mouth at once, and
praise praise praise. This should be something she gets at no other
time, like tiny pieces of string cheese or boiled chicken. Same for
defecation. Say "GO POOP" while she is going, and food reward and
praise afterwards. You must observe and reward ALL outdoor potty time.

4) Keep a schedule. Feed at the same time, and walk outside at
the same times. Your pup needs at least 4 trips outdoors each day,
and 5 is probably better. Pup needs to go out at wake up time, lunch
time, 4-5 PM, after dinner or any other meals, and before bed.

5) Use a key word each time you go out. I say "Let's go out!!"
in a happy tone of voice each time I'm opening the door to go out with the dog.

6) If you catch the puppy IN THE ACT of eliminating in your
house, CLAP YOUR HANDS, say AH AH, OUTSIDE!! And immediately rush her
outside. If she finishes there, do your usual food reward and praise.

The keys to getting your dog reliably housetrained are:

SUPERVISION: NO loose time in the house if you are not watching

REWARDS: ALL outdoor elimination MUST be observed
and rewarded. If you only do this ONE thing, your puppy will get housetrained.

PATIENCE: Anger and punishment have no place in dog
training. Elimination is a natural and pleasurable experience for
your dog. You can teach her to not soil your house, but punishment
will NOT help. It will only teach the dog to hide when she needs to eliminate.

If you have applied these techniques carefully for 4 weeks and you are still finding spots or piles after the fact, it's time for stronger measures. Roll up a newspaper and fasten both ends with a rubber band. Keep it handy. The very next time you find a spot of a pile that the dog has left behind, whip out that newspaper, and hit YOURSELF over the head firmly several times as you repeat "I FORGOT TO WATCH MY PUPPY".

Works every time.

:D

[MyIrishWolfie]

USE A CRATE.

Crating is fine for most breeds but for Irish Wolfhounds it isnt a good idea. Because Binn's growing about an inch a week and when he sleeps is when he grows the most he neds room to sprawl out, crating would confine his growing bones and would not let them grow properly. Binn's breeder has said NEVER to crate an Irish Wolfhound. Thanks for advice though. :)

[tinksmama]

If not a crate then another confined space where he can't go where he wants, a loose leash on your bed, a gated small room with a bed in it, if he wanders, he'll go.
Tiink is 13 weeks,and goes to the door when she has to potty, and she's also crate trained.

[RedyreRottweilers]

There are HUGE crates available.

Or exercise pens.

Or tethering.

Or baby gates.

MANY options other than letting your pup wander the entire house defecating everywhere each night.

Other things that might help are feeding him earlier, and a brisk walk before bedtime to help him empty out.

[bubbatd]

I truly think at this point the pup should be tethered near you at night . Why are you using pee-pads ??

[doberkim]

I know great danes and afghans that are crated (they are all crated at dog shows as well!), newfies, st bernards, and multiple dogs over 3 feet tall and over 200 lbs...

get a crate. get a BIG crate. its a load of bull that his bones will be "confined" and grow abnormally for being crated at night. he only grows in the dark? ? ?

honestly, its a load of poo.

[MyIrishWolfie]

Why are you using pee-pads ??

The truth.. its easier.. lol

I do take him out though as much as I can.

Im going to get a baby gate and put it up in the kitchen and have him sleep there at night. Crates for Wolfhounds are not an option.. no matter how big they sell them.

[MyIrishWolfie]

get a crate. get a BIG crate. its a load of bull that his bones will be "confined" and grow abnormally for being crated at night. he only grows in the dark? ? ?

honestly, its a load of poo.

Hmm I dont know. Im only going by what his breeder has said and she has breed Wolfhounds for over 25yrs. So, Im sure she knows what she's talking about. No he dosent only grow at night but he does most of his growing when he sleeps.

[MK&C]

Get the biggest crate you can get your hands on and get a divider for it that you can adjust.

You don't have to use it when he is an adult, although it is a good idea. But for puppyhood, it is quite possibly the most valuable tool you can have.

[GSDlover_4ever]

All dogs grow, the irish wolfhound is no different than any other dog. A crate IS an option for ANY breed of dog. Get an exercise pen if you think its going to mess up his growth. A puppy should never have free roam unless you are watching them.

[bubbatd]

Lord, am I glad there were no such things as pee pads in my day !! The closest I came to that, as most off my pups were paper trained when they went home ... I recommended people put a few papers in their yard for a few days. Believe me, a few days of dedicated puppy training will save you months of problems !!

[MyIrishWolfie]

Thanks for all the advice :) I think Im going to investigate on possibly getting a BIG crate. Hopefully I can get a handle on things very soon.

[Gempress]

One more question: do you want Binn to eventually potty outdoors or indoors? I assume you want him to go outdoors, given the amount of poo/pee that a dog of his size can produce.

If that's the case, you MUST ditch the pee pads. You're sending Binn mixed signals: right now, he thinks it's ok to go either outside or inside. Pick a potty location and stick with it firmly. Pee pads may be easier, but they are doing absolutely nothing to help with his training. In this case, I think they are hindering it.

And as long as the crate is a good size, there's nothing wrong with Binn being crated. Watch Binn when he normally sleeps...he's not exactly running laps! As long as you have a crate large enough for him to stretch out/curl up as he pleases, it won't affect his growth in the least.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but in my honest opinion, Binn may never become reliably housetrained with your current method. Think of every accident as a setback in training. Right now, Binn is having a LOT of setbacks. You need to do everything in your power to prevent them.

[MyIrishWolfie]

Gempress.. your not sounding harsh. I need all the advice I can get right now. Yes, I'd like to have him potty outdoors. I do have a potty location in the yard picked out and he does use it when he's outside. Its hard not to ditch pee pads but I guess to do this right Im going to have to.. like you said.

[Fran27]

I'm curious, why did the breeder say no to crates? My guess is that it's to prevent people from letting their dog in there 10 hours a day while at work. Which really is bad for every breed. But at night, like Gempress says, they are sleeping anyway, so it really doesn't make much of a difference for them.

[dr2little]

Hmm I dont know. Im only going by what his breeder has said and she has breed Wolfhounds for over 25yrs. So, Im sure she knows what she's talking about. No he dosent only grow at night but he does most of his growing when he sleeps.

Ask any Vet., doberkim is right! I was at the Pat Hastings "Structure in Action" seminar 2 days ago. Dog world Professionals in all capacities attended and we discussed at length that very topic. Many long time breeders are fantastic as they go outside their circles and strive to stay on top of the science, while others make up their own theories and refuse to look at current information (based on true historical data).
There is absolutely no reason why a large breed puppy should not be confined in a large kennel. And puppy pads for any dog..let alone a wolfhound:eek: they just make your job of teaching that much harder.

[MyIrishWolfie]

I'm curious, why did the breeder say no to crates?.

Binn got sent home with a bunch of papers telling us how to raise a Wolfhound. One of the suggestions was to not crate him. I cant remember the reason why but had to do something with their growing bones. Now that I think about it I think she meant not to crate them for hrs at a time... not to sure.

I bought a puppy potty book from Petsmart today and it also gives good advice and a lot of the same stuff you all have suggested. I'll keep you all posted on Binn's progresss :)