Interesting and Little Known Facts about your Breed

[PWCorgi]

I always love to learn new facts about dog breeds, especially little known facts, so I thought that I would start this thread to expand my brain, lol.

Alright I guess I will start...

Pembroke Welsh Corgis:

1) Corgis have webbed feet like a lab or a golden retriever.

2) They LOVE water and going swimming!

3) In many Welsh fairytales, their job was to act as tranportation for fairies and pixies, who rode them like horses.

4) In the 1960's the first corgi earned a Shutzhund title, which included jumping over a 40 inch jump while carrying a 1 1/2 pound dumbell, he went on the earn a Shutzhund II title

5) In Wales when private farms were taken away and community farms were set up, corgis did what is called reverse herding. Instead of keeping the livestock bunched together, they would spread them out while still keeping them seperate from other farmer's livestock. This way, the farmers would not loose grazing land to other farms, but would still keep their herd together.

I think that's it for now.

Anybody else...

[SummerRiot]

Thats very interesting!! I never knew that about the Corgis.. #5 was very interesting as well!! lol Smart little pups aren't they! :)

Little known facts about Belgians;

1) Belgians should not be fed Chicken for a long amount of time, their it can cause premanent damage to their pancreas.

2) Belgians are EXTREMELY sensative to anesthesia - so caution should be used while giving them a dose, they usually need a lesser dose!

3) Belgians have been used as sled dogs like the Husky, as well as cart dogs.

4) There are 4 varieties to the Belgian Sheepdog, many people think there are only three; Tervuren, Gronendael, Malinois and Laekenois

5) Any variety of the breed can have any variety in a litter. Ex. a Tervuren bitch can give birth to a Malinois pup or a Gronengael pup and sometimes a Laekenois.

6) They are an extremely sensative breed that thrives on positive training methods. The more harsh the training on them, the more they grow to resent you and ignore you.

7) They were originally bred to herd and protect sheep flocks for shephards.

8) The Belgian Tervuren got its name because it originated in Belgium in a little town called "Tervuren"

[PWCorgi]

5) Any variety of the breed can have any variety in a litter. Ex. a Tervuren bitch can give birth to a Malinois pup or a Gronengael pup and sometimes a Laekenois.

WOW! That's very interesting!

[SummerRiot]

It is eh! :)

They are essential the same breed.. but under the AKC each variety is a seperate breed..

the CKC recognizes them as one breed.

[Ash47]

1. Chis are the most ancient breed in North America.

2. They used to be larger, but were bred to be shorter so that they could be constantly close to the owner. (hence the nickname lap dog.)

3. First discovered in the 1850s.

3. Chis shake and shiver not because they are cold, but because they are excited or worried.

4. Many Chihuahuas are born with a soft spot (molera) on the top center of their skull. This is where the skull did not completely close, making an already fragile breed even more fragile.

5. Most Chihuahuas tend to only have friends that are of their breed. For instance, Roxy would much rather be friends with another Chi than have to live with Spud.

[Amstaffer]

Pit Bulls are big time lickers. They lick everyone they meet. Sal even licks my Sister's cows :p . They are super affectionate

Pit Bulls are very soft...meaning they are sensitive. They don't need stern or harsh correction. You can usually give a Pit Bull a dirty look and that is punishment enough.

If raised in the right how most Pit Bulls are the opposite of their stereotype.

[Leslie + Chessies]

Chesapeakes have engaging personalities punctuated by their "smile"- a greeting that is a grimace with all teeth bared
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Chesapeakes also have unique vocalizations - a happy "roo roo" sound that is somewhere between a growl and a howl.

Chesapeakes are traced back to two early shipwrecked Newfoundlands, Canton and Sailor. Canton and Sailor were not bred to each other but were bred to the local stock and their progeny were bred to water spaniels, hounds, and setters.

Chesapeakes are not just curly Labs. They are dominant dogs which can become overly possessive of objects, people, or property and may be somewhat aggressive if challenged. Chesapeakes are a lot of dog. People who prefer dogs who are more obedient and submissive tend not to like Chesapeakes at all.

[gaddylovesdogs]

Well, technically I have a couple of breeds since I love my mutts' breeds, but the only purebred dog I have is a Labrador Retriever. Let's see...little known facts about labbies...

1.> They have two coats - the top coat is water resist, and the undercoat keeps them warm. They shed the undercoat in the summer.
2.> They have webbed feet. You can often see the webbing when a lab is swimming.
3.> They're tail is called an "otter tail" and aids them in swimming. It acts as a rudder.
4.> There are British and American labs. English labs are shorter and stockier, where American labs tend to be taller and leaner. I prefer a mixture of the two, really.
5.> The lightest coat color for labs is called yellow, not golden, as many people assume!
6.> Because their ears are floppy, it's hard for air to get inside, so labs tend to get ear infections quite easily if their ears are not cleaned often enough.
7.> They're mouths are called "soft mouths" because when they go to catch a bird a hunter has shot, they can take it in their mouths and swim back to shore without disfiguring the bird.

[Gempress]

Blackmouth cur:

-They originated in the American South as a multi-purpose "frontier dog".

-The blackmouth cur does NOT have to have a black muzzle. The term "blackmouth" comes from the dark pigment of the inside of the mouth and lips.

-Unlike scenthounds, blackmouth curs should be silent when tracking. They also use a combination of scent and sight when on the trail.

-Blackmouth curs are used for herding as well as hunting. Even today, there are many kennels that breed specifially for herding ability, as oppossed to hunting prowress.

-The book "Old Yeller" was written about a blackmouth cur. (A lab played the part in the Disney movie).

[Leslie + Chessies]

-The book "Old Yeller" was written about a blackmouth cur. (A lab played the part in the Disney movie).

Awww...I didn't know Old Yeller was about a Blackmouth Cur! Thought it was just about a farm mutt. Love that book! May just have to go and reread it now!

[Gempress]

Catahoula leopard dog:

-This breed originated in Louisiana. During the time of the Conquistadors, the Spanish "War dogs" (greyhounds and mastiffs), interbred with the Native American dogs. Later, French immigrants brought the Beauceron into the mix, which resulted in the modern Catahoula Leopard Dog.

-Catahoulas are also used for both hunting and herding.

-In the "old days", Catahoula owners/breeders were so protective of their dogs that you could not buy one. They would give their dogs to those who truly needed one for work.

-*WARNING: THIS LAST FACT IS NOT FOR THE EASILY OFFENDED* Please keep in mind that this practice came about during the pioneer era in a wild country, where good working dogs were essential, and a bad working dog could be extremely detrimental to the welfare of a family/owner. The pioneers did not have the resources to feed and care for an animal that was not good at its work. There was also no spay/neuter program to ensure that sub-par animals did not breed.
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A large part of the Catahoula drive and temperament was developed from a process known as "lining". The breeder would take an entire litter of 6-month-old pups, and find a trail where deer were known to frequent. He would establish himself at an invisible line on the trail, and let the pups loose to track.

The last two pups to cross the "line" were shot. They did not exhibit enough interest in following the track. The rest of the pups were allowed to continue tracking. When the pups started to return, the first two dogs to cross the "line" were also shot. They didn't show enough interest in remaining with the pack. The remaining pups were considered the most promising prospects and began formal training.

Thankfully, with the advent of spay/neuter and the popularity of dogs as "just pets", lining is no longer used.

[elegy]

the most decorated war dog in american history was a pit bull

[Toller_08]

Not sure if these are little known among other Toller people, but many non-Toller people don't know this:

1) They are prone to auto-immune diseases (though this is getting better)

2) They *must* be on a limited vaccine protocol, their bodies cannot handle tons of vaccines and they also can't have mixed vaccines.

3) They have a horrible, loud, high pitched scream that they use when excited or anxious.

4) They are not a typical retriever in that they do not see everyone they meet as a new best friend. They're very reserved around new people and save most of their exuberance for friends and family.

5) They are extremely high drive, high energy dogs. Very comparable to the Border Collie.

6) Tollers are a very versatile breed and fortunately most Tollers can step right out of the conformation ring and into the field like they've been hunting forever.

7) They need positive training metods only. They're extremely sensitive.

There are more I'm sure, but these are the only things I can think of right now...

[Leslie + Chessies]

4) They are not a typical retriever in that they do not see everyone they meet as a new best friend. They're very reserved around new people and save most of their exuberance for friends and family.


Actually both Chesapeakes and Curly Coats are also known for being reserved and stand-offish around strangers.
Flat Coats, Goldens and Labs are the exuberant, party animals of the retrievers.
Tollers, Chessies and Curlies are the antisocial, surly retrievers.

[Renee750il]

These are anecdotal "facts" :D

Each Fila is obsessive/compulsive about something

A Fila will hold an endless grudge . . . .

Filas are partial to redheads ;)

[Toller_08]

Actually both Chesapeakes and Curly Coats are also known for being reserved and stand-offish around strangers.
Flat Coats, Goldens and Labs are the exuberant, party animals of the retrievers.
Tollers, Chessies and Curlies are the antisocial, surly retrievers.


I know, I should've specified that but when the average person thinks retriever they usually think automatically Golden or Lab. Most people that I un into have never even heard of the Curly, Chessie or Toller..

[Leslie + Chessies]

I know, I should've specified that but when the average person thinks retriever they usually think automatically Golden or Lab. Most people that I un into have never even heard of the Curly, Chessie or Toller..

LOL! You're right! Most people call Labs "Labs" and call Goldens "retrievers", as if Labs are not retrievers and as if there are no other retrievers.

I really wouldn't mind getting a Curly myself, but my husband hates them. I also heard that they get alopecia. Ick! If I wanted a bald dog, I'd get a Chinese Crested!

[RD]

Border Collies are racists. They are infamous for choosing to single out and spend time with only other Border Collies or similar herding breeds.

Papillons are excellent swimmers when appropriately introduced to water.

[wolfsoul]

Belgians were already done, but more facts can't hurt! :)

1. The Belgian varieties can be interbred (ie tervs ca be bred with groens, etc.).
2. Belgians are prone to autoimmune disease, epilepsy, and eye problems.
3. Belgians like to be close to their owner. They say when you have a Belgian you will never go to the bathroom alone again lol.
4. They think they are lap dogs.
5. They have to "overdo" everything. Belgians often need to be taught to slow down, take it easy, and care less. They are very impulsive.
6. They can be difficult to groom if they aren't taught from a young age. They are alot like shelties that way -- big babies -- one knot, and watch your face because it can be gone in one snap.
7. Back in their homeland, Belgians were mainly fed poultry, beets, wheat, mutton, and sometimes beef.
8. Belgians can differ from one temperment extreme to the other. You often get shy, low drive, soft dogs, and then aggressive, high drive, hard dogs. Sometimes a mixture of extremes. You'll rarely find one inbetween.
9. Belgians excell at almost everything. They are very versatile, and the top breed for schutzhund along with GSDs.
10. Big couch potatoes! Love to laze around in the house.

[Sheka]

Bichon Frises
1) you can brush/pet them backward and forwards, there is no diffrence, its a poof eether way. :)
2) FRISE in french, means Frizzy.
3)They were known as the pet of the common people after the French Revolution, and were trained and used as trick dogs in the circus.
4) As guard dogs, cart dogs and herders they were said to be infallible.but later, the bichon's main purpose became a companion
5) many bichons (including charlie) are said to have "human eyes" there eyes resemble ones of humans, charlie's eye color is hazel!
6) Bichons are known for 1 great trait i like to call the "happy dance" where they stand on their hind legs are twirl around, its a real crowd pleaser :)
7) they are extremely active, hardy little dogs and are not lil froofy dogs, Charlie loves to run, jump, hike and do agility :)
8) they were voted "DOG MOST RESEMBLING A TOY" by dog fancy magazine.

[Sheka]

MIXED BREEDS:

1) ugh..theyre all cute
2) There is no limits to size,shape,color or anything like that
3) theyre all masters of the "look, tilt ur head, and lift your ears" look
4) each mixed breed owner thinks they have the best one of them all.
5) telling a mixed breed owner that their dog is "of lesser value" in away way than a purebred is just asking to get your a*s whooped.
6)Many have wonderful loving owners, but many do not.
7) each of them probably has atleast 2 people a day trying to figure out what the heck its parents were
8) Not evreybody needs a mix, but evrey mix needs somebody. :)

[Tinaweena]

I always love to learn new facts about dog breeds, especially little known facts, so I thought that I would start this thread to expand my brain, lol.

Alright I guess I will start...

Pembroke Welsh Corgis:

1) Corgis have webbed feet like a lab or a golden retriever.

2) They LOVE water and going swimming!

3) In many Welsh fairytales, their job was to act as tranportation for fairies and pixies, who rode them like horses.

4) In the 1960's the first corgi earned a Shutzhund title, which included jumping over a 40 inch jump while carrying a 1 1/2 pound dumbell, he went on the earn a Shutzhund II title

5) In Wales when private farms were taken away and community farms were set up, corgis did what is called reverse herding. Instead of keeping the livestock bunched together, they would spread them out while still keeping them seperate from other farmer's livestock. This way, the farmers would not loose grazing land to other farms, but would still keep their herd together.

I think that's it for now.

Anybody else...

For some reason I know another fact about your breed!

6) They were bred to be so short because the ""reverse hearding" was them coming up behind the livestock and nipping the ankles. Eventually the cow would get sick of this annoying little dog nipping them and kickback, being that short made then automagically out of the way of the cow hoof, so if the cow wouldn't move they could just go right back to the nipping until the cow mosied on its way!

[jess2416]

7) each of them probably has atleast 2 people a day trying to figure out what the heck its parents were
Isnt that the truth :D LOL...

Let me see what I can say about my "German Shepador Retriever"
1. They are very rare ;)
2. They do not like yellow animals..period :D

*Sorry everyone I had too*

[PWCorgi]

Thanks Teena, forgot that one.

They are quick little buggers!

[tessa_s212]

5. Most Chihuahuas tend to only have friends that are of their breed. For instance, Roxy would much rather be friends with another Chi than have to live with Spud.

It is funny you say this, because I know a Chi the EXACT same way. He HATES any other dog that isn't a Chi... BUT,.. for some reason, he LOVES my English Pointer, Marq! It is SO wierd. He absolutely loves Marq!

[Renee750il]

MIXED BREEDS:

8) Not evreybody needs a mix, but evrey mix needs somebody. :)

Now that's the truth, Sheka! :D

[pitbulliest]

Fact on pit bulls/bully breeds: Originally, the ancestors of pit bulls were not bred for pit fighting, but for rodent hunting....pitties were america's favorite dog....number one companion....hence the not so well known but very much existing nick name from the good ol days: The Yankee Dog...
;)

[Mach1girl]

Where did you find that?

[pitbulliest]

All over the place...........there was one source I read awhile ago that clearly mentioned the use of rat hunting...I will try to locate it..but in the meantime, here are some history facts from various different sources:

Bulldogs were used for all manner of work, including baiting, fighting, stock work, hunting, and farm dog. They were an agreeable animal, capable of extreme ferociousness but unwavering loyalty and gentleness towards humans. They were an animal-aggressive breed, but were routinely used in pairs to bait animals and hunt, so overt aggression towards others of their same species was not an extreme trait.

In 1835, a law was set in motion that would make the sport of baiting illegal, and over the next few years, the activity eventually died down upon enforcement of the law. The people turned to another blood sport--that of dog fighting, and of course people looked to the bulldog as the likely choice for use in the fights. Selective breeding produced a bulldog with heightened dog-aggression, smaller size, and greater agility for performance in a pit that was decidedly smaller than the large areas that baits were typically held in. Hardy, scrappy sporting terriers were crossed into some of the fighting bulldogs to further enhance these traits. The crosses were called bull-and-terriers, half-and-halfs, and pit terriers.

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The breed known as the American Pit Bull Terrier was selectively bred specifically with the idea of it becoming the ultimate canine gladiator. But by virtue of the fact that so much of the breed was made up of versatile bulldog blood, the breed also proved adept at a number of non-fighting activities, including those which the bulldog had been used for.

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As this and other dog sports were developed people selectively breed different dogs to achieve the fighting attributes that they desired. They often mixed these breeds with the great dogs of England also used to bait bulls.

During this time it was thought that the use of the dog on a bull had a tenderizing effect on the meat. In reality this was a myth perpetuated by dog men and gamblers in order to encourage participation and thus draw the profits of gambling.

By the time of the early 1800's due to selective breeding a dog had emerged which was very similar to the American Pit Bull of today. Due to a slow economy and a law which prohibited people of low economic means from owning a sporting dog the practice of bull baiting began to diminish.

In 1835 bull baiting was officially banned. This forced people especially of the lower classes to find alternatives for their dogs. This resulted in a sport known as ratting where a number of rats were placed in a pit for a specified time with the dog. THIS IS IN FACT WHERE THE "PIT" IN THE AMERICAN Pit Bull TERRIER NAME CAME FROM NOT FROM FIGHTING OTHER DOGS. The terrier part of the name came from its ability to hunt small game and was one of the reasons why ratters knew it would excel in the rat Pit. The larger the number of kill the better the dog placed in the match. Due to the constraints of space and the agility of Black & Tan and now extinct White terriers of England these terriers were often being mixed with the old bull baiting dogs to achieve dogs which were premium for these purposes.

It is believed that this practice of mixing bulldog's and terriers began in the town of Staffordshire England and became known as the Staffordshire Bull and terrier.

Due to the agility and gameness of this new found breed many began to also fight dogs with each other. Soon dog on dog fighting and ratting became so popular that practically all Inns and Pubs were equipped with a fighting pit.

As colonization of America and Canada began these people also brought their dogs. These dogs soon became known by the name of "Pit Bull Terriers"

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The ancestors of modern "pit bulls" come from England. The English White Terrier, the Black and Tan Terrier and the Bulldog are supposedly extinct breeds, this occasion stems from their forced retirement; as with many dog breeds, the purpose of these said dogs ceased. We do know, however, that in their own time the English White Terrier, the Black and Tan Terrier and the Bulldog were prized animals, higly adapted to very unsavory, al beit necessary, tasks.

At one time every county in England had its own terrier. Many still exist, however, many have also come to pass or have mutated into a modern breed; such is the case for the English White Terrier and the Black and Tan, whose decandants include the bull-and-terriers, the Fox Terrier, and the Manchester Terrier. Terriers served a very real prupose in England, vermin threatened people in more ways than as providing an unpleasant scare or as unwelcomed guests; in the least Vermin ruined crops and damaged property, at worst they served as a vehicle for The Great Pestilence. Terriers destroyed vermin effieciently and were easy animals to care for. As time went on the sports of badger and rat baiting - among others - caught on. It's from the Terrier that "pit bulls' get their kind nature and juvenal behavior, it is also where the instinct to kill came from.

At the same time, Mastiff type dogs have existed in England for milennia. Their origins are somewhat uncertain, particularly because of myth. It can be assumed, however, that the Celts brought the Mastiff to britain from the continent. It also known that the Normans in troduced the Alaunt. Mastiffs of varying size existed on the Island for years, but it was not until the Renaissance that formal distinctions were made. These dogs were used in battle and for guarding, but they also served utilitarian purposes, such as farm work. Specifically, these dogs accompanied farmers into the fields to assist with bringing bulls in for breeding, castration, or slaughter. The dogs, known generally as bulldogs, protected the farmer by subduing the bull if it attempted to gore him. Typically a dog would do this by biting the bull on the nose and holding on until the bull submitted. Because of the nature of their job, bulldogs were bred to have powerful, muscular bodies, and the resolve to hold onto a violently-struggling bull, even when injured.

Eventually these dogs' purpose inspired the widespread practice of the bloody sports of bull-baiting and bear-baiting. In Elizabethan England, these spectacles were popular forms of entertainment. However, in 1835, bull-baiting and bear-baiting were abolished by Parliament as cruel, and the custom died out over the following years.


United States propaganda poster used during World War I depicting a pit bull
The sport of dog fighting, which could be carried out under clandestine measures, blossomed. Since Bulldogs proved too ponderous and disinterested in dog fighting, the Bulldogs were crossed to English White and Black and Tan Terriers. They were also bred to be intelligent and level-headed during fights and remain non-aggressive toward humans. Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten. Dogs that bit the referee were culled.

As a result, Victorian fighting dogs (Staffordshire Bull Terriers and, though less commonly used as fighters, English Bull Terriers) generally had stable temperaments and were commonly kept in the home by the gambling men who owned them.

During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly Boston where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier, became known as an "all-American" dog. "Pit bull" type dogs became popular as family pets for citizens who were not involved in dog-fighting or farming.

[JennSLK]

1. The Belgian varieties can be interbred (ie tervs ca be bred with groens, etc.).

Thats only in the CKC right? If Im not mistaken there are quite a few regestries were they are not varieties but breeds? Right? Just trying to clear things up.

[PWCorgi]

I remembered a few more facts to add for the corgi....

*They have water resistant coats to match their webbed feet

*The white stripe going down the middle of their face starts out thick when they are puppies and as they grow it gets thinner

*They also worked as goose herders when the farmers in Wales kept hundreds of geese

*They LOVE to "talk"!!!

[PWCorgi]

Some more, short term memory loss stinks :p ...

*Female corgis are more likely to be dog aggressive than males who are more layed back, unlike most breeds (thanks to joce for this information :) )

*All of Queen Elizabeth's corgis have rubber boots to protect their feet from the gravel at Buckingham Palace :rolleyes:

[tempura tantrum]

Fun thread!

PWCorgi- I LOVE the anecdote about corgi's being fairy-transportation. That's adorable.

And now for Shibas:

1) The oldest predecessors of the breed were thought to be around 6000 years old. It's a very ancient breed.

2) There were originally three distinct Shiba types: the San In, the Mino, and the Shinshu.

3) These types were consolidated into one (what we see today), when the breed almost went extinct during World War 2.

4) They are designated a National Treasure of Japan.

5) They are Japan's most popular dog.

6) There are only two white American Shiba conformation champions. Nowadays, white Shibas are disqualified. We read the original Japanese standard wrong (it's written in a poetic style that describes ALL of the Japanese breeds, and while white is an acceptable color in Akitas, it's not accepted in Shibas).

7) White Shibas did not occur until after World War 2, when the breed was being "rebuilt." This is because breeders used small numbers of Kishus (which are always white), to bolster breeding programs.

8) Showing and breeding Shibas is an incredibly popular sport for the Yakuza (Japanese mafia). They take it incredibly seriously and are quite competitive.


9) In Japan, these dogs are still used quite actively as hunters. They tail everything from small game to wild boar and bear (and they're extraordinarily successful). I know several people who have seen their dogs catch birds on the wing!

10) The "Shiba Scream" is a loud, piercing scream that Shibas use to display their aversion to doing anything that isn't THEIR idea. It's an unbelievable sound- almost like a human baby crying.

11) Shibas frequently greet people happily by growling, squinting their eyes, and "airplaning" their ears. It scares the crap out of first time visitors.

12) With VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS Shibas are the world's WORST off-lead dogs. They are major escape artists, and notoriously difficult to catch.

13) The unique "bullet shape" of this breed's head means that walking them on a normal collar is ill-advised and quite dangerous. They can too-easily slip their collar- and they KNOW when they're free. Martingale collars are best for Shibas for everyday walking.

14) The breeding and showing of Shibas in Japan can most-closely be likened to how seriously the breeding of Arabian show-horses is taken in the US. It is not uncommon for exceptional Shibas there to be sold from anywhere in the ballpark of $35,000-$80,00 US dollars! :eek:

15) Shiba bitches are generally more aggressive than males. An old joke in our breed is "they don't call them bitches for nothing." :D

[PWCorgi]

8) Showing and breeding Shibas is an incredibly popular sport for the Yakuza (Japanese mafia). They take it incredibly seriously and are quite competitive.

Wouldn't want to beat them. Yikes! LOL

[wolfsoul]

Thats only in the CKC right? If Im not mistaken there are quite a few regestries were they are not varieties but breeds? Right? Just trying to clear things up.
The AKC is the only registry in the world that classifies them as different breeds rather than varieties, which really is ridiculous in my opinion. We wanted to breed Visa to this very nice American terv, but couldn't because AKC will not register the puppies as groenendaels (which they would be), but rather as tervs, so the puppies would not be showable in the US because they would be groenendaels.

If you breed a pure for groenendael to a tervuren, you will get all groenendaels -- pure for groenendaels and terv carriers.

If you breed a terv carrier to a terv, you will get terv carriers and tervs.

If you breed a malinois to a terv, you will get malinois.

If you breed a malinois to a groen, you will get black malinois.

If you breed a black malinois to a tervuren, you will get tervuren, malinois, and groenendael (though you may end up with black malinois rather than groenendael, or both).

If you breed a laekenois to a terv or a malinois, you'll get laekenois. If you breed one to a groenendael, you'll get black laekenois.

So really, you can interbreed any of the varieties. Visa has competed against both groenendael and tervuren. It will be interesting competing in the states though, as in the West tervs are preferred by judges over groens, and we'll only be competing against other groens.

[PWCorgi]

WOW! That is extremely interesting wolfsoul! That is retarded, us Americans, always having to be different, Geez!

[SummerRiot]

lol ahh wolfsoul beat me to it! lol

[CanadianK9]

1. The first registration of a Golden Retriever by the American Kennel Club was in November 1925.

2. The most complete records of the development of the Golden Retriever are included in the record books that were kept from 1835 until about 1890 by the gamekeepers at the Guisachan (pronounced Gooeesicun) estate of Lord Tweedmouth at Inverness-Shire, Scotland. These records were released to public notice in Country Life in 1952, when Lord Tweedmouth's great-nephew, the sixth Earl of Ilchester, historian and sportsman, published material that had been left by his ancestor. They provided factual confirmation to the stories that had been handed down through generations.

3. Golden Retrievers are used successfully in field trials, hunting, obedience, and as guide dogs for the blind.

4. The first three dogs of any breed to achieve the AKC Obedience Champion title, first available in July 1977, were all Golden Retrievers. The first (Ch. Moreland's Golden Tonka) was a bitch, the others were males.

5. Golden Retrievers were first shown in England at the Crystal Palace show in 1908, and were listed as Flat Coats (Golden).

6. Goldens are among the most popular breeds in America and are familiar faces from numerous media spots, including the movie "Air Bud" and the TV Show "Full House."

[Kmh1]

Hi

I just recently acquired a Manchester Terrier--But I can't seem to find any other Manchester owners on the board! Here are a few facts about Manchesters:

Manchesters Terriers are the oldest recognized Terrier breed. They have even found evidence of black and tan Manchester type dogs in paintings from the 14th century.

Originally bred for rat killing sports, they later became known as "The Gentlemans Terrier" because aristocrtas would carry them on the hunt and then release them to finish the job after the hounds had the quarry at bay.

In Victorian times, very small toy Manchesters became popular and the dogs were unhealthily bred down to as small as 2 lbs! Eventually this trend faded but there are still toy and standard Manchesters.

Toy Manchesters ears must be naturally erect ---Standards can have natural, cropped , or button ears.

[SummerRiot]

I think some more people need to add about their Breed :)

I love this type of stuff.

[mamasobuco]

Here is some little known info on basenjis:

1. They are an ancient breed. So ancient that they can be found in angient Egyptian drawings.
2. They have a very sweet smell that is nothing like the typical dog smell.
3. They clean themselves with their paws much like a cat.
4. Rather than lick or kiss you, they will smell your mouth.
5. They trot like a horse.
6. Basenjis like high places to perch. Corky's favorite place to hang out is the back of the couch.
7. Yes, they are a barkless dog but that's just about the only normal dog sound they can't make.
8. Some basenji's yodel and some don't. Corky's yodel starts with a slow growl and end with AhRoooo.
8. They come in 4 different colors, red, black, tri and brindle. We have a tri.

[mamasobuco]

Here is some little known info on basenjis:

1. They are an ancient breed. So ancient that they can be found in ancient Egyptian drawings.
2. They have a very sweet smell that is nothing like the typical dog smell.
3. They clean themselves with their paws much like a cat.
4. Rather than lick or kiss you, they will smell your mouth.
5. They trot like a horse. This is very impressive and so graceful
6. Basenjis like high places to perch. Corky's favorite place to hang out is the back of the couch.
7. Yes, they are a barkless dog but that's just about the only normal dog sound they can't make.
8. Some basenji's yodel and some don't. Corky's yodel starts with a slow growl and ends with AhRoooo.
9. They come in 4 different colors, red, black, tri (white, brown & black) and brindle. All with white bellies and boots. Corky is a tri.
10. They are great climbers. Thank goodness Corky doesn't know that he could climb our 4' chainlink like a ladder.

Tempura: Thank so much for the info on shibas. I had the pleasure of meeting one shiba and he was very impressive. What a beauty! When looking for a dog, his owner wanted either a basenji or a shiba. I had corky with us when we met him and they are very similar outside of the length of their fur. Shibas are on the top of my list of breeds that I would own. :)

Sorry for the double post. I did not do this purposely just stupidly. :confused:

[Danegirl2208]

GREAT DANES...

They were originally bred to hunt wild boar

The great dane is not a Danish breed..they originated in Germany

The Great Dane is Pennsylvania's state dog

Although Dane-like dogs have been portrayed in Oriental writings and on Egyptian monuments dated prior to the birth of Christ, the breed is considered to be about 400 years old

In 1880, Germany adopted the Great Dane as its national dog and was called the Deutsche Dogge

In England the breed was recognised by the Kennel Club in 1884 as the Great Dane.

in most of central Europe the dane is recognised as 'Deutsche Dogge'... in France, it is recognised as both 'Dogue Allemand' and 'Danois'... In Holland, 'Duitse Dogge' and 'Deense Dogge' and in Italy it is called 'Alano'


they come in 6 colors...Black, Harlequin, Blue, Mantle, Fawn and Brindle

The Great dane is known as the Apollo of all dog breeds

danes dont need as much space as you would think..they make good apartment dogs


There are many famous cartoon Great danes..including Scooby-doo, Marmaduke, Astro on the Jetsans

Many famous people have owned danes.. here are a few..Franklin D. Roosevelt, Willaim Shatner, Bruce Lee, Greg Louganis, Chubby Checkers, Baron von Bismarck, Wilt Chamberlain, and the " Red Baron " of World War.. along with many others

[Brattina88]

This is very interesting!!

- The name 'Cocker' comes from the woodcock, a game bird these spaniels flushed particularly well
-They were bred for use on smaller upland game , such as the quail or partridge. Their size was an important factor, as it was widely believe that these little dogs would find the quarry without disturbing it.
-In the conformation show ring of the United States, due to the huge popularity of the Black Cocker, the Cocker Club applied to the American Kennel club to show this dog in a separate group, so as to allow for the other varieties, the Parti-Color and the ASCOB (any solid color other than black), to have their chance. Thus the American Cocker Spaniel is one of the very few breeds which is shown in separate classes even though are actually one breed. As a result, in the Sporting Group, there will be three representatives of the Cocker Spaniel being shown.



more later ;)

[Denaluvscorgis]

Chesapeakes have engaging personalities punctuated by their "smile"- a greeting that is a grimace with all teeth bared
http://www.silverstrandpta.com/chessgrin.jpg

Chesapeakes also have unique vocalizations - a happy "roo roo" sound that is somewhere between a growl and a howl.

Chesapeakes are traced back to two early shipwrecked Newfoundlands, Canton and Sailor. Canton and Sailor were not bred to each other but were bred to the local stock and their progeny were bred to water spaniels, hounds, and setters.

Chesapeakes are not just curly Labs. They are dominant dogs which can become overly possessive of objects, people, or property and may be somewhat aggressive if challenged. Chesapeakes are a lot of dog. People who prefer dogs who are more obedient and submissive tend not to like Chesapeakes at all.
That smile is soooooooooooooooooo cute!!! I used to have a Collie, and she'd smile like that all the time.:D

[Denaluvscorgis]

For some reason I know another fact about your breed!

6) They were bred to be so short because the ""reverse hearding" was them coming up behind the livestock and nipping the ankles. Eventually the cow would get sick of this annoying little dog nipping them and kickback, being that short made then automagically out of the way of the cow hoof, so if the cow wouldn't move they could just go right back to the nipping until the cow mosied on its way!
Corgi's are definintely smart little dogs....sometimes wayyyyyyyyyy toooooooo smart!!LOL:rolleyes:

[ihartgonzo]

Border Collies are racists. They are infamous for choosing to single out and spend time with only other Border Collies or similar herding breeds.

LMAO! So, so true! Usually when I tell people that Gonzo is a "breedist", they look at me like I'm crazy. =/ I sweeaar, he can see a black Lab from a mile away and gets totally sulky and stares at them in disgust like he's saying, "Leave me the F alone." I can 100% trust him with other herding pups, smaller breeds and Huskies, but otherwise I just can't.

A few more Border Collie facts...

* Border Collies "originated" and were brought to America over a century ago from the Scottish borders.

* Border Collies are chatacterized by their ability to perform tasks otherwise assigned individually to different breeds of shepherd dogs. BC's can gather, drive, eye, clap (go down and face sheep with it's belly close to the ground), and are bred for intelligence that enables them to work a large flock over long distances, often having to think for themselves when their handler is out of sight.

* Because of centuries of breeding for drive, energy, intelligence, and loyalty; BC's CAN and WILL become parenoid, hyper-active, and neurotic if they aren't given the opportunity to exercise their body and their mind. Or, they'll find other ways to fulfill their needs... like re-landscaping your yard, re-decorating your house, herding your children/houseguests/you, becoming obsessed with food, or becoming obsessed with cars/squirrels/lights/etc.

* There are more Border Collies in Flyball (NAFA) than any other breed, including mixed breeds!

* Border Collies were AKC accepted in 1995 with open registration, meaning any ABCA registered BC would be accepted. The ABCA maintains it's stand on showing Border Collies as wrong and rejects the registration of any Border Collie that attains it's AKC Champion title.

* Many BC breeders are divided - they either breed working Border Collies, or show Border Collies (called Barbie Collies by some working breeders). The working side of the spectrum feels that BC's are what they are because of how they work, not how they look.