View Full Version : Interview with a puppy miller
tessa_s212
06-05-2006, 10:50 AM
http://www.pedigreedogs.co.uk/k9bytes/puppyfarming4.htm
It's an interview with a 'miller'...just so sad that he can say what he does.
Fran27
06-05-2006, 11:05 AM
This is exactly the article we should give all the people who consider buying a pup from a pet store. Sickening.
Wow, that guy is a grade-A unfeeling jackhole.
Buddy'sParents
06-05-2006, 11:28 AM
There's a lump in my throat... I know there are people out there like that, but... ugh. Sickening.. as Fran said.
dr2little
06-05-2006, 11:37 AM
Just beyond comprehension. I can't believe that the article isn't "made up" because it is just so "no holds barred" blatenly callus and because of it's origin. I do believe that it is meant to give character to the absolute horror that is reality for so many helpless dogs. It takes your breath away to sit and picture what life is like for some dogs, then to look into the eyes of your own and remember there's no difference in spirit..just in circumstance. Too sad for words.:mad:
Chrissy&B
06-05-2006, 11:47 AM
Oh my god, that is just unbelievable!!! At first I thought it was a joke, but then I thought of the fact that even if it is a joke and made up, it's actually happening! :mad:
princess_poppy
06-05-2006, 11:52 AM
i hate some people. all that man cares about is a profit. i feel like stuffing that man into a cage to feel what those dogs feel and letting him suffer in his own poo too.
Fran27
06-05-2006, 12:02 PM
The thing is, even if it is fake... puppy mill owners don't consider the dogs any differently than this interview shows.
JennSLK
06-05-2006, 12:57 PM
It's so sad and it makes me feal guitly.
I got Emma from a pet store (hangs head) I didnt know any better at the time. I wouldnt trade her for the world though. We just "click" and she's my heart dog
MomOf7
06-05-2006, 01:24 PM
Ummm....Im speachless. Need I say more?:(
Bailey+Ralph
06-05-2006, 01:38 PM
:eek:
misticaleclipse
06-05-2006, 02:32 PM
you wonder why so many animals end of with issues due to lack of socialization and being treated like less than a piece of furniture. Just terrible. I notice how he keeps calling himself a breeder, sure...
LabBreeder
06-05-2006, 04:21 PM
i have a quick question. puh-lease don't take this as anything other than it is....an honest to God question because I'd like to know what you all think...that's it :)
The animals (cats/dogs) at PetsMart are brought over by local humane societies and shelters for adoption. If the animals are from a humane society/shelter (that does interviews/applications/in home visits/shots and spay/neuter) but are being "adopted out" via help from the store...is that wrong? They are not pet shop dogs but shelter/HS dogs (and cats) that are getting more exposure so people can see what's offered at the local HS/shelters on a weekly basis. I figure if it helps give a HS/shelter dog (or cat) a good home a little quicker it's not bad.
So, even though they are at a "pet store" they aren't "pet shop" animals. Is it ok to get a pet in this case?
misticaleclipse
06-05-2006, 04:42 PM
So, even though they are at a "pet store" they aren't "pet shop" animals. Is it ok to get a pet in this case?
The problem with pet stores is that many/most of them get there puppies from puppy mills. In this case these dogs are already at a shelter (and may have come from a puppy mill originally or may not have). I don't find anything wrong with the pet store helping these pets to be adopted. It gets the animals exposure with pet lovers that they normally would not have. I don't think the pet store makes any profit from the adoptions? but I could be wrong.
dr2little
06-05-2006, 04:47 PM
i have a quick question. puh-lease don't take this as anything other than it is....an honest to God question because I'd like to know what you all think...that's it :)
The animals (cats/dogs) at PetsMart are brought over by local humane societies and shelters for adoption. If the animals are from a humane society/shelter (that does interviews/applications/in home visits/shots and spay/neuter) but are being "adopted out" via help from the store...is that wrong? They are not pet shop dogs but shelter/HS dogs (and cats) that are getting more exposure so people can see what's offered at the local HS/shelters on a weekly basis. I figure if it helps give a HS/shelter dog (or cat) a good home a little quicker it's not bad.
So, even though they are at a "pet store" they aren't "pet shop" animals. Is it ok to get a pet in this case?
It's a very reasonable question.:) I don't know how all of them work but in Calgary we have a Petstore chain with a "Pets for Life" program. IMO, it's just terrible..they find dogs from different situations and adopt them out to whom ever comes with cash really. They aren't from local shelters, rescues or Humane societies though. I see the repercussions in classes and often it ends poorly. They also charge more than is reasonable so I think it's more of a promo scheme (they also sell puppies from BYB's and Mills) and money maker for the store. It would be easy to find out where the dogs come from when in this situation, I'm sure that some stores are ligit.:confused:
gaddylovesdogs
06-05-2006, 04:54 PM
What an @$$. I hate him and I don't even know him.
I don't think Petsmart adoptions are bad. I believe certain shelters go to the stores with certain animals, and they usually don't allow adoption "on the spot". You still have to go through the whole process of being approved and all that.
PixieSticksandTricks
06-05-2006, 05:00 PM
All I have to say is what a jackass!!!
darkchild16
06-05-2006, 05:21 PM
that guy is a world class as*hole. makes me want to hunt him down and trap him in a cage with walker lol.
Lexus
06-05-2006, 06:12 PM
Yeah with Petsmart, you still have to go through an application process, just like if you had gone directly to the HSociety. I think it is great that they do that for the shelters. I only ever see cats in the PS near me.
My newest kitty was from a "Pet store" a few years ago. That is it was very small local supplies only petstore that kept cages on hand for the occasional needy pet to find a home. He was given up along with two others by an elderly woman who was moving to a nursing home. We had stopped in the store for aquarium supplies, and saw the boy, he had been there for two weeks, and his two buddies had already been adopted, they were Persians, so they got snatched up right away, but old jinxy was just a plain old tiger :) Couldn't pass his sad green eyes up...
AusCatDogs_4Ever
06-05-2006, 07:58 PM
How disgusting......... The more I read, the more I really disliked the guy. :mad:
The interview is obviously a fake.
None the less, the fake puppy miller is merely stating overtly what actual puppymillers implicitly condone by their actions.
Dobiegurl
06-09-2006, 03:13 PM
you'd be surprised how many people will pay cash for even a clapped out old ex-breeder because it makes the buyer feel like a good Samaritan".
A** hole!!! :mad:
LabBreeder
06-09-2006, 04:00 PM
Fake or not it still gets the point out that puppy mills are bad and they don't care about the dogs at all.
LabBreeder
06-09-2006, 04:05 PM
Ok. I just wanted to make sure that if I ever get a pet from PetsMart that it wasn't a bad thing. I used to work there and they treat their animals very well. I got to change bedding, feed, water, give meds, change tanks, etc. It was very fulfilling and I wish we had never moved cause I would probably still be working there; low pay and all! :)
Whenever the dogs and cats were brought in they were fed, watered and walked (or litter pans cleaned). You could pet them and keep them out a little longer if you wanted to as well. I know you had the application, in home visit, all kinds of questions about your life/family/home and they got spayed/neutered before they went anywhere. I thought it was a legit thing, but just wanted to make sure. :)
Thanks everyone. BTW, I used to carry a mouse around in my pocket when I worked there. I was "letting him/her see the world!" Mice and rats are very sweet creatures. ;)
Mordy
06-09-2006, 04:20 PM
The puppy mill trade is a sad, sad industry.
Now imagine that those "professional breeders" (snort) often operate on a scale of having hundreds of breeding dogs. There are Amish breeders in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, who have over a thousand dogs in filthy barns and sell thousands of puppies every single year.
micro202
06-10-2006, 02:25 PM
The interview is obviously a fake.
Hehe. If you stop and take a look at the guys name 'Hugh Jincumb', it turns into "Huge Income".
Herschel
06-11-2006, 01:17 AM
Yeah...definitely a fake.
I have a question about one of the "statements" that our man Hugh made. He said that he doesn't consider dogs to be different than sheep and cows.
Why are dogs different than sheep? cows? chickens? Many of us support the mass "breeding" and killing of these animals constantly without hesitation, but for some reason we're disgusted by the breeding of dogs? Why are dogs so much different?
As far as livestock not being social--have you ever driven past a farm that has pasture grazing animals? They're most definitely social. In terms of intelligent, birds are incredibly intelligent! I'm lost on this one--where is the difference?
Pittie
06-11-2006, 08:28 AM
It's a fake, sure, but it's a darned realistic one. It's hard to imagine that there are actually people out there who think "I bet dogs in the wild live in messy dens." It's common knowledge that dogs will not normally use their sleeping quarters as a bathroom spot. Like most pet dogs, wolves, dingos, African wild dogs, etc. have a 'potty spot', and it is not their dens. Puppy mill dogs only use their pens as bathrooms because they have no other choice. It's sometimes so cramped there's really no difference between bathroom and bed.
I don't understand how a person could be so stupid.
Jules
06-11-2006, 01:56 PM
Sooo fake. Why would a puppy miller expose himself and educate the public about his cruel business?
I think it's good and so important to educate the public about puppy mills, as many people simply don't know about it...but I think writing an article would be better than losing credentials by writing a fake interview.
Bowowee
06-11-2006, 06:59 PM
Puppy milling is should be stopped there is not question about it. But I think the interview is a fake.
Mordy
06-12-2006, 05:39 PM
I don't think the point of the whole thing is whether the interview is fake or not (obviously it is), but to give readers the perspective of how puppy millers operate - and from their standpoint the whole thing is accurate.
No matter if it's sheep, cows, chickens or dogs that are raised for a profit, the profit margin and highest possible cost effective operations are the main interest.