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Gopeder99
05-27-2006, 12:40 PM
I have a male Dachshund full breed,

i want to breed it but i dont know how to go about it

a neighebor of mine is a big dog lover and she said there are websites where you can find other people that want to breed

bittervanityx
05-27-2006, 12:55 PM
Just dont do it. Seriously. Theres enough dogs in the world that dont have homes. Dont add to the homless population. If you dont know anything about breeding, that should be a big clue why you shouldnt do it.

sorry for being rude. I just dont like... ehh... whatever, you get my point. Hopefully.

RetrieverLove
05-27-2006, 01:04 PM
You should only breed if you are responsible and doing it to better the breed standard. Breeding has a lot more in store than most people are able to imagine. Considering you know absolutely nothing about breeding, I'd reccomend you neuter your dog and learn about the problem you would be contributing to.

First of all, I don't know what you mean by "full breed". Are you trying to say pure bred? Secondly, that doesn't mean anything. Where did you get your dog from, anyway? Does it have it's health tests. Dachshunds are prone to spinal disc problems and heart disease. Did you know even know that?

What I want to know is why you'd want to breed anyways? If you aren't doing it to better the standard you are doing it simply because "fluffy is a little cutie". Go down to the shelter and look at all of those dogs. The majority of them will never find a home, mainly due to irresponsible breeding. If you want another dog, get one. However, do not breed your dog.

Dog breeders are very educated people. If this is something you'd like to do down the road I'd research for YEARS. Find a mentor, a nice reputable breeder that you can follow.

Please rethink this decision.

chocolatecoffee
05-27-2006, 01:06 PM
There are some people on this website that want to breed, however they're breeding to better the breed. They show their dog to ensure it's the best of the best, do a number of health takes to make sure their dog won't be passing on any undesirable genetic problems, and they look for another dog that will help to better the breed. Purebred just doesn't cut it anymore. This is extremely costly and they're lucky if they even break even with the puppies (often times they don't), but they do it because of their love of the breed. They also have a contract that, among other things, states that any puppy MUST be returned back to them at any point in its life if the owner is not able to care for it any longer.

Unfortunately, with the massive pet overpopulation problem, this is the only way breeding should be done. Countless animals are euthanized on a daily basis because of the lack of homes for them. Far too many people are breeding to make an "easy buck", or for whatever other excuse they think of, and this is where all of these dogs in shelters come from.

Please, if your dog isn't an excellent specimen of a Dachshund, please have it neutered. Unneutered dogs have a higher tendency to roam (especially when there is a female in heat around, they become unbearable) and there is a much higher risk of developing cancer in the reproductory organs. Often times, they also develop undesirable behaviours, such as marking inside of the house.

Breeding can also be very expensive. What if something unexpected happens, such as the bitch needing a cesarian section? What about all of the vet work for the puppies (including spay and neuter if they don't make the show cut)? The owner of the sire could be held responsible for a number of these things.

You sound like you love your dog and want the best for it; kudos on trying to get more information. However, I urge you to please do a little bit of research and neuter your dog...there are too many dogs in shelters already.

JennSLK
05-27-2006, 06:01 PM
Are you serious? I really hope this is a sick joke.


"Full breed" What the heck is that?!

What organisation os your dog reg with?
Why do you want to breed? As a male owner you will get nothing out of it except maybe one pup as a stud fee.

No one in their right mind would breed to your dog unless it has titles, health checks, ect...

~Tucker&Me~
05-27-2006, 08:45 PM
I know some of you have been very polite about this, but PLEASE, for those that have been harsh...

The BEST way to convince or teach is to do it politely. If that doesn't work, then go ahead, but at least TRY.

OP, 25% of the dogs coming into shelters are pure-bred. It doesn't mean much.


~Tucker

jess2416
05-27-2006, 09:51 PM
It alot of work...for starters make sure you read the stickied threads at the top

BudgetsDad
05-28-2006, 12:04 AM
Are you serious? I really hope this is a sick joke.


"Full breed" What the heck is that?!

What organisation os your dog reg with?
Why do you want to breed? As a male owner you will get nothing out of it except maybe one pup as a stud fee.

No one in their right mind would breed to your dog unless it has titles, health checks, ect...

This has been debated over and over on this forum. But here we go again. Lets assume this person came on this board honestly looking for answers. You respond by being an #$#%#. The person gets insulted, does not take you seriously, and never comes back. He/she thinks the forum is filled with nutcases. She goes ahead and breeds her dog without any adivce. Nothing accomplished.

On the other hand...you are polite, and explain your viewpoint. Perhaps she takes it into consideration. Many people just aren't that educated about this issues. Case in point... before I researched getting a dog, I would have happily bought a dog from a pet store. Now I won't. But if I asked a question about buying from a pet store, and I got the kind of answers you give, I would have told you to take a hike and gone straight to the pet store because you would come off as a nutcase who has nothing serious to offer.

JennSLK
05-28-2006, 01:41 AM
Oh, Im so sorry. I didnt know that this form was no longer public and I couldnt voice my HONEST opinion.

Like most people here I am very pasonate about BYB's. I can voice my opinion as I like as long as I wasn't atacking someone personaly.

It's not like I posted that so and so is a _________

Im blunt about stuff like this and if it comes off rude then so be it. I learned from certain members to suck it up. People are blunt, they shouldnt sugar coat it and neither do I.

filarotten
05-28-2006, 11:42 AM
Breeding is a passionate subject. They only way to educate, is to inform and explain. That is how new posters learn.

Positive reinforcement works for humans as well as animals. ;)

RedyreRottweilers
05-29-2006, 12:43 PM
First, understand that without a doubt, breeding your dog will change him.

You can look for more dog aggression, more marking and leg lifting, and more determination to wander to look for bitches in season.

Also of concern are certain sexually transmitted diseases among dogs, the main one being Canine Brucellosis.

CB is contagious to humans, and there is no known cure in dogs. Most dogs who end up positive are destroyed. In males it can cause swollen painful testicles that then atrophy.

No dog should be bred with out a clean CB certification.

From http://www.ddrtx.org/about_breed.htm


Most all breeds have certain health issues that are inherent in the breed. Dachshunds are prone to three main health concerns. The main one is back problems with degenerative disks, and are highly prone to paralysis from injury and from bad breeding. Barring any accidents, if a dachshund passes it’s sixth year with no back troubles, chances are it will not develop it. (More on this when we get our “health issues” page up and running!). The second thing they are prone to is seizures. The seizures range from mild to severe and some require medication to help control. (Again, more on this issue later!). The third thing that they are prone to is mammary tumors – both males and females can get this. The only known preventative is to have your dachshund spayed or neutered prior to their first heat cycle for females, and at age 6 months for males. This will reduce the risk of mammary cancer and tumors by 98%.

You can find more info, esp regarding degenerative disk disease, back problems, and paralyisis, at the Dachshund Club of America website.

http://www.dachshund-dca.org/

Please keep in mind that creating new life is a very serious responsibility.

Research is important, and only the BEST specimens should ever be used for breeding.

You are very likely MUCH better off neutering your dog and enjoying him as a companion.

Renee750il
05-29-2006, 12:55 PM
Great points you've brought out there, Red. I wasn't aware of canine brucellosis . . .

MomOf7
05-29-2006, 01:16 PM
I breed labrador retrievers
This is the only thing I can post for you. Its a link to a very informative page.
Read it over carefully. Maybe it will help you.
http://www.itb.it/canaan/icdca/Breeders/facts.htm

filarotten
05-29-2006, 03:18 PM
Red, I wasn't aware of that either. Interesting and informative post.

~Tucker&Me~
05-29-2006, 06:51 PM
Thanks Red,
That was interesting.

JennSLK, there is a difference between suger-coating something and being polite.

~Tucker

princess_poppy
06-03-2006, 10:04 AM
i wanted a dachson but i did alot of reserch on them and desided againsted them cause of there back problems. there was one good webby on all the health problems in breeds.

bubbatd
06-03-2006, 10:44 AM
Having dogs tested for CB is VERY important. I will also add any owner of a female that advertises for a stud would be a BYB.

Herschel
06-06-2006, 12:12 AM
It's interesting that the OP still hasn't posted again...

Did he get scared away?

LabBreeder
06-06-2006, 12:21 AM
wouldn't you be scared away 2 if you were in his/her shoes??? ask a breeding question here and you better run the other way if you value your life. :) j/k not everyone is that bad, but you get alot of strong opinions.

RedyreRottweilers
06-06-2006, 08:30 AM
Yes, you do get a lot of strong opinions.

I don't think anyone was rude to this poster in any way.

He was offered good true and correct information.

You'll have to excuse us. So many of us have seen so many rescues have to be put down because of issues caused by poor breeding or upbringing, and with millions yes MILLIONS of dogs and cats put to death in shelters EACH YEAR because of irresponsible PEOPLE breeding their pets, yep...

We get a little passionate about it.

Bailey+Ralph
06-06-2006, 09:09 AM
Oh, Im so sorry. I didnt know that this form was no longer public and I couldnt voice my HONEST opinion.

Like most people here I am very pasonate about BYB's. I can voice my opinion as I like as long as I wasn't atacking someone personaly.

It's not like I posted that so and so is a _________

Im blunt about stuff like this and if it comes off rude then so be it. I learned from certain members to suck it up. People are blunt, they shouldnt sugar coat it and neither do I.

Being as blunt as that will not help the person who started this thread, it will however instigate another 12 page thread of arguing.
Instead of doing what the thread was started for.
There is a way of being blunt and giving your opinion without being rude.
I for one wouldn't have listened to a word you said in your other post if i had'nt already had some good polite advice from others here when i spoke of breeding Bailey.

Herschel
06-06-2006, 12:50 PM
Yes, you do get a lot of strong opinions.

I don't think anyone was rude to this poster in any way.

He was offered good true and correct information.

You'll have to excuse us. So many of us have seen so many rescues have to be put down because of issues caused by poor breeding or upbringing, and with millions yes MILLIONS of dogs and cats put to death in shelters EACH YEAR because of irresponsible PEOPLE breeding their pets, yep...

We get a little passionate about it.

And I guess the best way to handle the enthusiasm that you have for saving animals is to make sure that even more rescues/strays get put down by encouraging people to breed without coming to forums like this to ask for more information.

Positive reinforcement...

RedyreRottweilers
06-06-2006, 05:24 PM
I don't get your drift here Herschel.

I was replying to the poster who insinuated that there were a lot of rude posts to the OP on this thread.

I didn't think there were. Jenn is young and over enthusiastic at times, but she means well.

Good correct information is always the best thing to give people, and in the most palatable way possible most of the time.

If you have some constructive criticism about my reponses to the OP on this thread, I'm all ears.

;)

Herschel
06-06-2006, 06:09 PM
I was responding to your comment that you "don't think anyone was rude to [the OP] in any way".

It was fairly obvious that Jenn's comment was a little out of hand. I'm sorry that you don't agree with me, especially since you were sensible enough to provide good, cool-headed advice to the OP.

One comment is enough to scare someone away--and I'm still waiting for the original poster to respond.

ihartgonzo
06-06-2006, 07:29 PM
Herschel... seriously, you seem to really enjoy chastising concerned people =P. Are you the post police now?

No, everyone is not going to be incredibly kind & supportive to people posting ads in a newspaper looking for any random female Doxie to breed with her dog. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and entitled to their own view on breeding dogs "for fun". Some one seeking advice will get advice here, both kind & somewhat harsh. At least they are GETTING some knowledgable advice, rather than people saying "Yeah... great idea! Good luck!" and biting their lip completely, which does happen a lot. I think we are all here to learn something about our dogs and others, I've learned a lot, and any mature person should be able to take criticism and actually consider the opinions given and not just run away. If any does cross the line, that's what wonderful Mods are for! ;0)

LabBreeder
06-06-2006, 08:43 PM
seems like this one got out of hand for the OP...they probably won't come back IMO. it kinda sucks when you ask for help/advice from others and you get "reasonable" advice about not doing it...and "rude" opinions/advice. some people read the rude, put aside the reasonable and chalk it up to "oh well, guess i'll do it since there weren't any nice people willing to help". nice gets ignored and rude makes them leave....OP could have at least said SOMETHING else.