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PixieSticksandTricks
03-31-2006, 08:36 PM
Canine animal testing photos.


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http://www.atourhands.com/vividogs.html

Why not their just animals right? :mad: :(

yoko
03-31-2006, 10:12 PM
OMG that's horrible :'(

Caninegirl
03-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Its so sickening, the poor dogs, how the hell can these people do that to those poor innocent creatures.. the pain and suffering.

Theres one on cat experimenting in the Cat forum.

Its just so sad.

AusCatDogs_4Ever
04-01-2006, 09:30 AM
I looked t just about all those pics, they are all disgusting. :(

perla123
04-01-2006, 10:04 AM
I've had seen those pic on a nother web site it is just sickening how people use animals for those things:mad:

Selkhet
04-01-2006, 06:40 PM
I can't even imagine...I wimped out and didn't look. Stuff like that creeps me out. And I'd like to keep my lunch, thank you. :(

tobylittledude
04-01-2006, 07:56 PM
That's horrible and just unacceptable!~ How can people do that to animals? I saw some similar photos from an Iams testing lab. Even those who are in business for the dogs....do harm to them. People who do this are evil...as is Iams. :mad:

FoxyWench
04-01-2006, 10:12 PM
oh didnt you all know...animals dont feel pain.... *Sarcastic glare at reaserchers!*

i looked at ALL the pictures, if the dog ones wernt convincing enough the monkey page..those faces...how can ANYONE say there not "HURTING" the animals (yes ive seen research labs state that their experimentation doesnt "HURT" the animals, it just causes minor discomfort and the animals are treated well and are happy...
wanna belive that? look at the primate page...if those faces dont just scream WHY? i dont know what does...

Amstaffer
04-02-2006, 12:51 PM
Humans will have a high price to pay one day for what we do and condone :(

bubbatd
04-02-2006, 06:12 PM
Those pictures were horrible.! I'm hoping that most of them were animals that were too ill to recover , or on the list to PTS and that the tests were to help our animals down the road.

thewhitewitchone
04-02-2006, 10:29 PM
I could not look at them all. My heart hurts too much. :(

Pam

Tami'n'Charly
04-07-2006, 11:45 AM
Ok... I realize what I'm going to say might ruffle some feathers and I hope it doesn't come out wrong.

BUT... animal testing is necessary. It enables us to get medicine when we are sick, to eat the food we enjoy at dinner, to do just about EVERYTHING we do everyday. Think about it-- would you rather they test a new medication on your mother or little brother versus a mouse, dog or ape?? There is no way around it. Researchers HAVE to test on animals to make things for US.

That being said- unecessary animal testing or using methods that are painful or cruel to animals? No. Not acceptable or justifable by any means. I couldn't look at those pictures. My heart breaks for those pups. But I just think people *bash* animal testing without thinking it through. Not all animal testing is bad.

My boyfriend is a neurobiologist. He has to kill several mice a week. He does this to further the research on schizophrenia-- to see if we might be able to find a cure for it someday. He hates killing those mice. He makes sure that he does it as painlessly as he can- but it's for a good cause. Anyone that has known someone with a mental disorder would agree that those mice are helping you and me and all the people we love.

I don't know. Just my 2 cents.

JennSLK
04-07-2006, 02:50 PM
I agree with your first statement Tami.
I also agree is can and should be done humanly

makenzie71
04-07-2006, 04:22 PM
research animals, despite activist rumors, are typically animals that aren't thought to be suitable pets.

The pics may look horrible...but just, think: because people do that you're not going to die from smallpox.

FoxyWench
04-17-2006, 08:44 PM
i have no problem with reaserch when its done properly...however there are way too many cases out there where labs severly ABUSE their animals, cosmetics testing is one of the WORST feilds out there for animal cruelty
like anything else, if your going to do it, do it right and do it with compasion...
be humane...

Sheka
04-21-2006, 12:37 PM
Poor Babies! :(

Crotalus
04-24-2006, 02:54 AM
Personally I think cosmetics testing is completely stupid, mostly because it's for something that is totally unnecessary to our wellbeing. Those pictures are sad, terrible, and heartbreaking. I took a look at the rodent page and a lot of the mice and rats actually look rather well fed, well housed, and healthy. The naked looking ones are actually a specific cultivar of rat bred to be naked (like a mexican hairless I guess) and they are pretty popular among rat fanciers.

I don't know for sure if this is the case with the beagles on the dog page, but I do know that some vet schools have their veterinarians go through a program where they are each given a beagle specifically bred for the purpose. Each vet student has to go and practice doing different kinds of surgeries on the dog they are given, removing various organs until the dog finally doesn't come out of anesthesia any more. :( It's super sad to me, and I don't understand why it is necessary because human surgeons don't go through that kind of training before operating on people. Maybe they don't do it any more, I'm not sure if they stopped or not. I guess you could say that those little guys are helping other animals down the road.

BigDog2191
04-24-2006, 03:37 AM
Some of those are photoshopped.

Renee750il
04-24-2006, 10:09 AM
Those pictures were horrible.! I'm hoping that most of them were animals that were too ill to recover , or on the list to PTS and that the tests were to help our animals down the road.

Grammy, no animal should be so outraged and diminished. Better to be humanely euthanized than used in a loveless, cold lab.

And yes, I would gladly do without a lot of modern medicine to stop animal testing. A great deal of modern medicine is poison anyway . . . better to go back to a more natural path.

Kase
04-24-2006, 11:06 AM
Horrible horrible pictures, like Renee said I too would rather do without a lot of modern medicines to prevent that :(.

Samm
04-24-2006, 11:18 AM
That's just wrong :(

wolfsoul
04-24-2006, 12:57 PM
I disagree that it's better tested on animals than humans. Do you know how many things have been tested on animals and then have killed humans? HUNDREDS. Humans and animals are not the same thing. If we relied on animal testing for everything, would we be able to eat chocolate because dogs can't?

"There are human safety concerns about testing on animals. Results are unreliable. Though we have much in common with other animals, our systems are not identical. According to the United States General Accounting Office, 52% of the new drugs marketed between 1976 and 1985 caused adverse reactions that were not predicted by animal studies (Microsoft Encarta Encyclopedia 99 - "Animal Testing"). Time magazine, February 23, 1962, stated that Thalidomide was released "after three years of animal tests." There was no indication of the severe birth defects it would cause in humans. The discovery of penicillin, however, was made without the use of animals. We should be thankful that the animal tests the researchers were later required to perform on this drug, before its release, didn't include tests on guinea pigs - Penicillin kills them.

An article in the 6/24/02 issue of Insight Magazine tells us: "Of 11,000 anticancer chemicals developed in mice, none help humans. While 5 milligrams of botulinum kills man, 10 grams has no effect on dogs or cats. The differences can be both unknown and very great, researchers say. Some animal tests indeed have led to erroneous conclusions: that smoking is noncarcinogenic and that benzene is safe, for instance."

Between 1998-2000, ten drugs were recalled in the United States because of side effects that occurred almost exclusively in women. Dr Ray Greek explains, "This means that tests on men cannot predict what a drug will do for women so how can a monkey/dog/rat etc predict anything?"
http://www.dawnwatch.com/animal_testing.htm

Renee750il
04-24-2006, 01:17 PM
Excellent post, Wolf.

If you stand back and look objectively, Western medicine, by and large, is a failure. We extend the quantity of life, but largely ignore the quality. Most "medicines" cover symptoms but in reality do very little to solve the problem. Tylenol, for example, only masks pain. Old fashioned aspirin (from white willow bark) actually diminishes swelling, relieving pain. And look at the upsides of aspirin for the heart! And you didn't have to torture anything to get it. That's a simple illustration, but no less valid.

The only "treatments" found to truly relieve carpal tunnel are yoga and tai chi and accupuncture.

It is historically known that the ancient druids used mistletoe to cure tumors.

We've lost so much useful knowledge in our quest for scientific validation.

Lily
04-24-2006, 08:13 PM
Why do they need to do that kind of stuff to dogs?
Is it to learn about dogs or something???

BullyLover
04-25-2006, 08:46 AM
Some of those are photoshopped.

Agree....Shock factor...

Ashlea
04-26-2006, 04:10 AM
I do not think animal testing is neccesary. Do the animals chose to be involved in it. NO! The animals don't signs themselves up and get paid. There are plenty of people who would be willing to do it for cash.
Humans are filth and a cancer to this planet. The day we become extinct is the day the natural balance is righted. Bring on that day! I am ashamed to be human.